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Old 07-29-2010, 04:56 PM   #1
 
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Default Shampoo bars-- I wanna say yay, but so far, nay! ):

I received sample bars of CV soaps and shampoo bars.

I got the Ayurvedic Herb poo bar, Aloe soap bar, Butter Bar Conditioner poo bar, and some others strictly for face and body (including orange creamsicle, i'm worried the citrus will dry out my hair further.)

I've tried them all and it's all the same: brillo pad-like, tangly, and waxy residue left on my scalp.

I tried lathering once, lathering twice, following up with an ACV rinse, letting the foam sit, rinsing out immediately, everything! Still yucky.

I was just wondering if anybody (maybe with texture/porosity/etc. similar to mine) had similar results and/or success with different shampoo bars, CV or otherwise..

I really want to like shampoo bars. i do like using them, it's more fun to use than liquid shampoo and it lasts longer for sure!

thanks in advance, curlies! <3
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I think my hair is probably the polar opposite of yours (fine, low porosity, thin)--but I had the same reaction.
There are a lot of us with looser curls who have problems with the Chagrin Valley bars--for most of us, it's the castor oil. (it was discussed a lot about two years ago on the general forum, when shampoo bars were the rage.If I hadn't used a bar, with fabulous results, before using one from Chagrin Valley, I would have never used another. My hair was left a tangled mess--and my hair doesn't tangle! I gave the rest of the samples I bought away.

Originally, I wasn't sure if it was the shea butter, avocado or castor oil. I've since used bars with both shea butter and avocado oil and my hair likes both very much. I think the bars are one of the biggest reason for the positive results I've seen with my hair. For me, they are MUCH better then cowashing and gentler than lowpoo.

Please don't give up on shampoo/soap bars until you try some with other ingredients.
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I'm very sorry that you're not having a good experience with shampoo bars as of now. One thing I can suggest is perhaps your hair needs to be clarified before using shampoo bars. That may aid. Secondly, there is one shampoo bar that I love. It's Bee Mine Purity Rhassoul Clay Clarifying Bar. This shampoo bar may state 'Clarifying' but it's far from it. It gently cleanses my hair & scalp, then leaves my hair soft and clean. My scalp is not dry. I love it. This bar also lasts for a while. You should give it a try.
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Mhm, I definitely don't want to give up on shampoo bars because CV didn't tickle my fancy! It was just kinda disappointing, all these wonderful reviews and I'm like.. an odd ball out. ):

I do intend on looking at more shampoo bars. They're more economical from what I can see. And no plastic! (someone stole our recycling bin, jerks!)

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Hm, I actually wanted to look at some Bee Mine products anyway, you reminded me. Thanks! I'll look into it. My birthday was Tuesday so I have birthday money on the way. I just want to pick a few things to buy beforehand.
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I have A KBB Juicy shampoo bar, but have not used it yet. How often does one use these? right now, I shampoo once a month- usually co washes apart from that....I am afraid to use it and strip my hair, though when I went to the KBB store, they said it was safe to use 1-2 times per week
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I didn't like the CV shampoo bars either. I ended up throwing some away, putting them on the swap board, and giving some away. I tried most of them and tried everything to make them work for me. I even got a shower filter and that didn't work. I'm still looking for a shampoo.
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I have A KBB Juicy shampoo bar, but have not used it yet. How often does one use these? right now, I shampoo once a month- usually co washes apart from that....I am afraid to use it and strip my hair, though when I went to the KBB store, they said it was safe to use 1-2 times per week
Yes shampoo bars can be used once a week. I've never used them more than once a week though.
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If the CV bars didn't dry out my skin so much I'd just use them up on my body. But they make my skin feel squeaky clean, as if I used a sulfate-laden body wash.

I doubt that if the Butter one didn't make my hair happy, since my hair loooooves butters, any other CV bar would work for me. I've never used castor oil so I don't know if that's the culprit. My hair hates oils normally.. my hair gets crisp and greasy and dry, it's yucky.

When I used Giovanni shampoo, which was definitely nowhere near as drying as the bars, I shampooed once a week, maybe going a teeny bit longer if my hair is still looking good from my wash n' go.
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[QUOTE=Jamtastic Voyage!;1427840]If the CV bars didn't dry out my skin so much I'd just use them up on my body. But they make my skin feel squeaky clean, as if I used a sulfate-laden body wash.

I doubt that if the Butter one didn't make my hair happy, since my hair loooooves butters, any other CV bar would work for me. I've never used castor oil so I don't know if that's the culprit. My hair hates oils normally.. my hair gets crisp and greasy and dry, it's yucky.

It's the castor oil that's drying your skin. I do the oil cleansing method on my face. People with oily skin can use up to 50% castor oil in their mix, I use 10% because it's drying. Castor oil is what makes soap lather.

The saponified oils in soap are different than regular oil in hair. It's the chemical process that makes cold process soap.

I've used the natural soap bars on my hair every three days (last winter was so dry I went up to every five) since 9/1/08 with no problem. I always do a rinse out and an ACV rinse.
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Thanks for posting the question. I am going to be trying a new shampoo soon (my bottle is almost empty) and I was going to look into the YES! line but maybe I shall try shampoo bars instead.

Anyone know if you can pick them up at Whole Foods?
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@ Kathymack: why the ACV rinse after the shampoo bars?
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@ Kathymack: why the ACV rinse after the shampoo bars?
The bars are alkaline, hair is acidic. The bars open the cuticle, the ACV closes it. I keep a spray bottle of Bragg's ACV (it's organic and has the "mother" in it, great for cooking, too) mixed in the shower in a ratio of 10:1. The spray bottle helps you direct the rinse and keep it out of your eyes!
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Oh, I see! That makes sense. I don't really know anything about soapmaking.. I intend on learning soon though!

Okie dokie. So I don't think castor oil is for me then. Sad, people talk about how much they love it. Oh well! I'll know to keep away from it then, thanks a bunch! (:

And oh my goodness, thank you for mentioning the ACV spray. I always poured it over my head and.. owchies! I always get something in my eye and ACV is the worst! I'll do that next time.
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There's a local soap place that makes their own shampoo bars. They aren't specifically for curly hair/natural hair. Is this okay or is there something special in ones everyone else is using?
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There's a local soap place that makes their own shampoo bars. They aren't specifically for curly hair/natural hair. Is this okay or is there something special in ones everyone else is using?

Just look at the ingredients and see if you like them or not. I remember a thread someone started about finding a goat's milk bar that was marketed for skin, but had good enough ingredients/moisturizing properties to use on the hair.
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I think my hair is probably the polar opposite of yours (fine, low porosity, thin)--but I had the same reaction.
There are a lot of us with looser curls who have problems with the Chagrin Valley bars--for most of us, it's the castor oil. (it was discussed a lot about two years ago on the general forum, when shampoo bars were the rage.If I hadn't used a bar, with fabulous results, before using one from Chagrin Valley, I would have never used another. My hair was left a tangled mess--and my hair doesn't tangle! I gave the rest of the samples I bought away.

Originally, I wasn't sure if it was the shea butter, avocado or castor oil. I've since used bars with both shea butter and avocado oil and my hair likes both very much. I think the bars are one of the biggest reason for the positive results I've seen with my hair. For me, they are MUCH better then cowashing and gentler than lowpoo.

Please don't give up on shampoo/soap bars until you try some with other ingredients.
i agree with the bolded.. dont give up, just try one with different ingredients, or clarify first. I didnt like them at first but i love them now, ESP that ayurvedic! I want to try other brands now but the CV's are the best priced per oz. ive seen.. im about to try Beija Flor Naturals!

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I have A KBB Juicy shampoo bar, but have not used it yet. How often does one use these? right now, I shampoo once a month- usually co washes apart from that....I am afraid to use it and strip my hair, though when I went to the KBB store, they said it was safe to use 1-2 times per week
i have been using my chagrin valley bars twice a week w an acv rinse and my hair is loving it!
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I've been using my CV bar samples for about a month now, and I have some conclusions.

1. My hair and scalp love them, but I need to do the acid rinse after. This means that I need a spray bottle toget it to my hair. said spray bottle with be my next purchase.

2. My hair doesn't need a heavey leave in with the bars. Vo5 or sauve are perfectly fine and might actually be a bit heavey for me.

3. The olive she and olive babasu make my scalp oily alot faster. They will be revisited when the weather is cold in the fall and winter. I'm to wait at least until mid october when it is consitently chilly.


Me and my scalp are much happy with the bars then with cowashing. I used to get itchy a couple of hourse after my hair had finished drying. Now I still itch but not nearly as much, and I'm going to try switching to to a very light milky leave in or a water based spray leave in.
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There's a local soap place that makes their own shampoo bars. They aren't specifically for curly hair/natural hair. Is this okay or is there something special in ones everyone else is using?

Just look at the ingredients and see if you like them or not. I remember a thread someone started about finding a goat's milk bar that was marketed for skin, but had good enough ingredients/moisturizing properties to use on the hair.
+1. I use hand crafted, natural soap bars, not shampoo bars. My understanding is that soap bars are "superfatted" compared to shampoo bars.

If you stay with hand crafted soap that is made by the cold process method, I think you'll be fine. These bars have oils, that have been saponified with lye. If the bars are made correctly, the result is soap with no lye left. The only other additives should be for scent and color. I only buy bars that use natural ingredients for scent and color.
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I just started using cv bars, they really made my hair feel all waxy and stiff but leaving come conditioner in for a couple of minutes then rinses yielded silky easy to detangle hair. I've only tried the butter bar, honey butter and ayurvedic bars. So far going well, but once I got a shower filter they all worked even better.

Another one you can try is from Laquita, I won a two bars from her. The honey shea bar is super nice and moisturizing. http://www.etsy.com/shop/laquita33
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How funny! I sent her a message last night asking if her shampoo bars had castor oil. I think it's a sign.

And I was looking at the honey shea.. spooky.

I forgot about possibly using body bars as shampoo.. I never really liked body bars (dunno why.. I'm more of a whipped cream body soap gal myself..) so it slipped my mind.

Thanks kathymack, you've been lots of help. (: and everyone else! <3
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