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Old 11-06-2010, 11:54 AM   #21
 
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If the KCKT and oils have pHs of 7 (which doesn't help or harm the hair), and the aloe vera juice has a pH of 4.0-4.5 (which is what actually closes the hair's cuticles), then couldn't you just remove the KCKT and oils altogether and just use the aloe vera juice with a pH of 4.0-4.5?
Has anyone tested plain AVJ to see what the PH is? The Lily of the Desert Jusic that Kimmay uses has citric acid in it. Cirtic acid is a PH adjuster so I don't know if any old plain juice is cuticle closing on its own.

I've been meaning to get some PH strips for this purpose.
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:01 PM   #22
 
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Well to be honest the Kimmy Method just didn't work for me but the concept does.

I think I tried the KISS spray before (Aloe Vera Juice, Rose Water and a lil glycerin) it was nice but I didn't like spraying cold water on my hair.

The research that KimmyT did is quit interesting and I do like the idea of aloe vera and water as the key ingredients. Since what she uses (KCNT) doesn't work for me I tried it with others like Giovanni, KBB Hair Milk, and other stuff but it just didn't work for my hair. So I just test my moisturizers with the ph balance strips and add rose water, aloe vera juice or gel, and some oil to it and test the ph balance to make sure it's at about 4 or 4.5. That's what works for me.

So I do agree with the concept. My hair feels nice and soft. I can't say that I'm retaining a bunch of length because of it but I know my hair grows slow in the summer and fall and then grows a little better in the winter and spring. So I will know more say in April of 2011 about the retaining length with a low ph balance of 4 or 4.5.

I have read so many good reviews about the Kimmy Leave in and only a few that it didn't work for, I guess I'm one of the rare ones.
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:52 PM   #23
 
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Well to be honest the Kimmy Method just didn't work for me but the concept does.

I think I tried the KISS spray before (Aloe Vera Juice, Rose Water and a lil glycerin) it was nice but I didn't like spraying cold water on my hair.

The research that KimmyT did is quit interesting and I do like the idea of aloe vera and water as the key ingredients. Since what she uses (KCNT) doesn't work for me I tried it with others like Giovanni, KBB Hair Milk, and other stuff but it just didn't work for my hair. So I just test my moisturizers with the ph balance strips and add rose water, aloe vera juice or gel, and some oil to it and test the ph balance to make sure it's at about 4 or 4.5. That's what works for me.

So I do agree with the concept. My hair feels nice and soft. I can't say that I'm retaining a bunch of length because of it but I know my hair grows slow in the summer and fall and then grows a little better in the winter and spring. So I will know more say in April of 2011 about the retaining length with a low ph balance of 4 or 4.5.

I have read so many good reviews about the Kimmy Leave in and only a few that it didn't work for, I guess I'm one of the rare ones.
I think I'm one of the people it didn't work for. However, my hair doesn't fare well with Knot Today, so I'm going to try it with a different conditioner.
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When I watched the video, she said that she only uses leave in's as Leave in's, because leaving a rinse out in your hair can cause dryness and breakage. Is this true? I use all conditioners as leave in when I get ready-I do have some breakage, but I attribute that to natural fallout from transitioning. it's not terrible, but it is there...Any thoughts?
I don't think that's true at all. I make a conditioner and I use it both as a rinse out and leave in. I do however rinse it all out and make sure to get it all off my scalp, and then apply a little as a leave in like I would a moisturizer, section by section. There are lots of ladies who use regular conditioners as leave ins. In fact there are some condishes that the manufacturer (oyin) recommends as a leave in as well.
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When I watched the video, she said that she only uses leave in's as Leave in's, because leaving a rinse out in your hair can cause dryness and breakage. Is this true? I use all conditioners as leave in when I get ready-I do have some breakage, but I attribute that to natural fallout from transitioning. it's not terrible, but it is there...Any thoughts?
I don't think that's true at all. I make a conditioner and I use it both as a rinse out and leave in. I do however rinse it all out and make sure to get it all off my scalp, and then apply a little as a leave in like I would a moisturizer, section by section. There are lots of ladies who use regular conditioners as leave ins. In fact there are some condishes that the manufacturer (oyin) recommends as a leave in as well.
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Old 11-06-2010, 07:49 PM   #26
 
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Her leave-in recipe is working for my hair. I've been consistently using it for about 3 months? Prior to that, I was already using the Knot Today as a leave in and sealing with castor oil. That was working decent but when I added the aloe juice and jojoba oil I automatically noticed that my hair was smoother and stayed moisturized longer. Honestly, I could probably just get away with a K.I.S.S regimen now that I have this leave in. I don't even really need any stylers. I've been using the leave in for my braid outs and twist outs. I don't do wash n' go's at all really. Of course I will probably continue to try other things now and then... to feed my PJ-ism!

I was retaining length just fine before using the leave in and I'm still doing so. I'm not into length checks and what-not so I don't know how much growth I've had since using it. *shrugs*

I was curious about the ph of hair products before Kim made videos about it. Elucence products were the first products I used that had their ph listed on the bottles. Then I heard Lisa Akbari emphasize hair ph as well on her radio show.
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When I watched the video, she said that she only uses leave in's as Leave in's, because leaving a rinse out in your hair can cause dryness and breakage. Is this true? I use all conditioners as leave in when I get ready-I do have some breakage, but I attribute that to natural fallout from transitioning. it's not terrible, but it is there...Any thoughts?
I use conditioners that direct you to rinse them out all the time as leave-ins. I have had no issues.
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When I watched the video, she said that she only uses leave in's as Leave in's, because leaving a rinse out in your hair can cause dryness and breakage. Is this true? I use all conditioners as leave in when I get ready-I do have some breakage, but I attribute that to natural fallout from transitioning. it's not terrible, but it is there...Any thoughts?
I use regular condioner as a leave-in will no ill effects. Here is an article on for more infromation: http://thenaturalhaven.blogspot.com/...tioner-in.html
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By now, most people on the hair boards know about the wonderful leave-in recipe from Kimmaytube.

But I have a question: are all the ingredients in the leave-in actually necessary?

If the KCKT and oils have pHs of 7 (which doesn't help or harm the hair), and the aloe vera juice has a pH of 4.0-4.5 (which is what actually closes the hair's cuticles), then couldn't you just remove the KCKT and oils altogether and just use the aloe vera juice with a pH of 4.0-4.5?

If the AVJ is the ingredient that actually closes the hair's cuticles, then the other ingredients just seem to be fillers for the leave-in concoction and not actually necessary, so couldn't you just use the AVJ alone (as a daily spritz or something) and just seal with your favorite butter/oil (or whatever)?
I say do what makes your hair happy. I am a product junkie and have tried numerous products and this recipe seemed like it is the only one keepig my hair moisturized. I think using Aloe Vera by itself would make my hair dry, in fact I know it would. But do what makes your hair happy.
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Her leave-in recipe is working for my hair. I've been consistently using it for about 3 months? Prior to that, I was already using the Knot Today as a leave in and sealing with castor oil. That was working decent but when I added the aloe juice and jojoba oil I automatically noticed that my hair was smoother and stayed moisturized longer. Honestly, I could probably just get away with a K.I.S.S regimen now that I have this leave in. I don't even really need any stylers. I've been using the leave in for my braid outs and twist outs. I don't do wash n' go's at all really. Of course I will probably continue to try other things now and then... to feed my PJ-ism!

I was retaining length just fine before using the leave in and I'm still doing so. I'm not into length checks and what-not so I don't know how much growth I've had since using it. *shrugs*

I was curious about the ph of hair products before Kim made videos about it. Elucence products were the first products I used that had their ph listed on the bottles. Then I heard Lisa Akbari emphasize hair ph as well on her radio show.
i can relate to a lot of your post, especially the bolded. i use the shea moisture organic raw shea butter deep treatment masque as my conditioner base with good results. i use castor oil and avocado oil as my oils. i have some ph strips. i'll use them to check the ph.
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I like the concoction. I substituted castor oil for olive and it does just fine. My hair is very tangly and I really think the aloe is what made the difference. Now my twists just fall apart without the hairs catching on each other when I wear twist outs. So I think the aloe is what makes the difference. I have other moisturizers, like Qhemet BRBC that may leave my hair softer. But that aloe juice is the business!

Also AVJ is a great detangler! I had about 5 products and gel hardened in my hair. I saturated my dry hair with the aloe, and the tangles literally disappeared! Very little hair came out and this was 6 day hair!
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I think I am one of the few that this did not work for no matter what the base conditioner was. People tend to give KT a lot of credit for basic natural haircare. People have always mixed conditioners, oils, etc. I do love aloe juice though!
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I tried the leave in and my hair didn't like it. I'm low porosity though so that's probably why
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I tried the leave-in as well and my hair didn't like it. Wow, my hair was dry and crispy after it dried on washNgo days! I've had success with KCKT + a styler with or w/o oils however adding the AVJ is what caused the negative effects for me. I have since learned my hair can only tolerate AVJ if it is not in the top five ingredients in a mixture or commercial product....and the distilled water + AVJ as a spray or refresher is definitely a no-no....
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I think I'm going to try it with the Hair one (generic Wen) from Sally's. I absolutely adore that stuff! I will let y'all know how it turns out.

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This leave in worked wonders for me when i was battling dry ends. I stoped using it when i found shea moister hair milk but if anything happened to SMHM i will go back to it

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