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Old 09-01-2010, 07:25 AM   #21
 
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I didn't subscribe to Chiselle's channel but I did see some of her videos. I wasn't aware of the hair cut and dye job though. Her hair was gorgeous. But if she chose to cut and dye it, what is it to you (gy, not anyone here in particular)? Why would anyone put that much investment into somebody else's hair? I agree that if some people were that invested in her hair, they have to have self-esteem issues and they need to work on accepting the hair they have on their own heads. SMDH.
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Old 09-01-2010, 07:27 AM   #22
 
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i don't know these people, but i will say that when i was a regular on nappturality.com, i noticed that same kind of mentality with certain groups of women.

there are women who can't just take another person's hair experiences and advice at face value, apply what they can use, and discard what they can't. no, these women covet and seemingly obsess over what other women have growing from their scalps and will cling to every word, method, product suggestion and acquire the precise combs, brushes, scarves, and hair clips that these people say they use.

so much so, that when a member reveals that she has cut off her 10-year-old locs to sport a twa, has flat ironed or permed her waist-length natural hair, or has shaved her sides into a mohawk, her actions cause an uproar and make her a target of virtual side-eyes, finger-shaking, tongue-sucking, uninvited opinions, and sulking. and all of a sudden, the fan base that the member once had, has left her in the dust.

and most of the time (on that site), the women who were coveting and taking such an emotional stock into what another person did to her hair, didn't have a hair texture remotely similar to the person who did a radical change and could never naturally achieve the type of hair that they so desperately obsessed over.

so if you are reading this and find yourself to be a woman who has too much interest in someone else, whether it's how she wears her hair, how she dresses, how she lives, etc., know that that is creepy and oogie behavior and that you should take stock, self-reflect, and work on liking your true self instead of modeling your personal choices after someone else's.

I totally agree with every point you made.

I've never seen her channel, but I'm sorry to hear that she recieved such negative comments. Maybe someone can message/contact her and let her know that there are still plenty of (normal) people out there that don't mind the hair style change and benefited from her previous videos.
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Meh, I guess I'll be the only one that doesn't care. That's okay My thought is...if you put all ya bizness on the interwebz, act like you trust random strangers, advertise your face and your hair...people are gonna respond like they have a say in what you do because you gave them a say. You gave them a voice and they used it. Everything was hunky dory when they were giving compliments and saying what the person in question wanted to hear, but when opinions oppose..the viewers are out of line? Where's the real mob mentality in this scenario?

Disclaimer: I don't even know the YT person. I think that pic Coco posted is ugggggly but I don't care if a stranger on YT tries it out (actually, could be cool to see it on nappy hair). BUT, YT "gurus", bloggers or whatever want folks to care. That's how they amass an audience. So...let the people continue to care and mind the business of others'.
there are opinions and then there are straight b*tches on youtube. i told someone off, let the comment up and someone else got their panties in a bunch. i told that person they could get the hell off my channel too if they didn't like it, im not here to kiss anyone's ass lol.
There are straight B*tches everywhere. On YT, on Naturally curly, on Nappturality, on LHCF, on people's blogs. B*tches gone be B*tches. You can't stop them. They are a FORCE of nature. All you can control is the opportunities you give them. I'm not advocating that people stop blogging if that's what they want to do (and I love your vids Empress!!! your like the perfect enabler ). But it should be common knowledge that B*tches ARE going to express themselves alllll over the isht you make public.

ETA: I agree with the deleting idea. You can control that. But you can't control what other people wanna type with their fingers (to me, it seems kinda ironic to imagine complaining about people projecting their feelings onto "your" head at the same time you want to project your ideas onto their keyboards).

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Old 09-01-2010, 07:56 AM   #24
 
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Why not just delete their comments or only approve comments? Why completely remove your videos.
Yeah, I wish she had done this or just disabled the comments altogether for awhile. True, her long hair (I think it was about waist length or a little longer) was on point, but her short hair is cute, too. I'll never understand why people get so upset when someone gets a haircut. Especially, natural women. We, of all people, should know that hair does grow back.
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Old 09-01-2010, 08:09 AM   #25
 
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Maybe she was goin through more than we know in her personal life. I really don't see why she had to be so drastic in her response to some idiots' negativity.
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damn i loved her!!!!!!!!! OMG im so mad.

damn bald headed chicks stay hating on someone. let errbody do them dammit!!!!!
BAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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Old 09-01-2010, 09:15 AM   #27
 
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i think it was also an age issue. inspired coils or koils recently did another big chop (bald). she got lots of positive comments. she is older than cc though.

i don't always read the comments but i have seen when someone gets in the negative poster's ish, they usually run and don't post anymore.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:41 AM   #28
 
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Like someone said above, if you're putting your image out there, you need to have thick skin. Quite a dramatic response, but maybe she got tired of putting herself out there like that?

that's one of the reasons that I would never become a hair blogger, youtuber, etc.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:13 PM   #29
 
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Like someone said above, if you're putting your image out there, you need to have thick skin. Quite a dramatic response, but maybe she got tired of putting herself out there like that?

that's one of the reasons that I would never become a hair blogger, youtuber, etc.
LOL okay guys...I think people need to have thicker skins OVERALL in life period, but that doesn't make it okay or excuse people when they act like stalker a-holes. Just sayin.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:18 PM   #30
 
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Many YT'ers live vicariously through the person they're watching... they want to be like them in every way, and when they make a change that isn't expected or not liked, it's a personal attack against the vlogger. Kinda like "why did you change?" What ppl don't realize is that once you're "on camera," your life and what ever entity you make known of yourself is under extreme scrutiny from everyone. The internet is a dangerous world... it's not poppies and peppermint all the damn time.

In the same breathe, vloggers need to develop a thick skin as previously mentioned and not take everything said to them or about them to heart. I know words can be harsh, and an onslaught of negativity can really affect the psyche, but if you put your business out there for the public to view, then you can only expect the negative as well as the positive to flow.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:02 PM   #31
 
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So I saw a thread the other day on LHCF, and I wanted to share the topic with you guys because this situation really bothered me (not LHCF, but what the thread was about). Apparently, a popular YouTuber, Chisellecouture (http://www.youtube.com/user/chiselle...e?blend=1&ob=4), removed all her videos due to the backlash she received after she cut her hair and colored it. Now, I'm not sure if you ever saw her videos, but she had EXCELLENT hair and great tutorials. I didn't see her haircut, but it was supposedly short, and not too cute.

But my thing is...why are women being attacked b/c of how they choose to wear their hair? There was another natural haired blogger who was ridiculed because she decided to get a texturizer (I think someone even called her a traitor). The whole thing is just rude and stanky to me. These women take the time to share information and share their journeys with the world, and then when they do something a group of people don't like they get attacked. Are people serious?
gone? are you serious?? omg, chiselle was so cool & dopee!
i know she said she didn't have a camera at one point bc she couldn't make videos & everyone assumed that she was ashamed of her hair & that she regrets she cut her hair, yada yada ya... it was soooo elementary of these ladies.

but wow, one good natural hair guru gone bc of insecure females vicariously living thru her hair.


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Many YT'ers live vicariously through the person they're watching... they want to be like them in every way, and when they make a change that isn't expected or not liked, it's a personal attack against the vlogger. Kinda like "why did you change?" What ppl don't realize is that once you're "on camera," your life and what ever entity you make known of yourself is under extreme scrutiny from everyone. The internet is a dangerous world... it's not poppies and peppermint all the damn time.

In the same breathe, vloggers need to develop a thick skin as previously mentioned and not take everything said to them or about them to heart. I know words can be harsh, and an onslaught of negativity can really affect the psyche, but if you put your business out there for the public to view, then you can only expect the negative as well as the positive to flow.
i didn't even read yours b4 posting. but E X A C T L Y.
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She was one of the few people I watched because she is straight to the point and had creative styles. From what I know of her from her videos, I don't think she was the type of person "who didn't have a thick skin". In fact she addressed the cut in a video after people kept posting stuff and she was holding her own and didn't seem super offended. She had the right to do whatever to her damn hair and don't owe anyone a damn thing. People get tired of stuff all of the time. I shut down my FB page without notice and haven't looked back. She probably just got tired of being a slave to other people's expectations of her.
I agree to a certain extent that once you put yourself out there, you have to be prepared for opinions. I personally don't care for Kimmy's videos because she gets her panties in a wad when it comes to criticism. Still, no one deserves to be harassed for a personal decision.
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People over there can be a bit... crazy. And I was the one banned! I was the sanest person over there.
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I'm a subscriber of hers and have been for awhile. She just posted a video as to why she deleted her vids. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIg3WdjaBYA
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Hmm, Idk how I feel about the new video she made. I mean I know but right about now I'm not so sure I even want to give my opinion. I feel weird about posting here now.lol.
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love it!!!!
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Hmm, Idk how I feel about the new video she made. I mean I know but right about now I'm not so sure I even want to give my opinion. I feel weird about posting here now.lol.

LOL. Between threads from here being re-posted in the long hair forum, Target and other places all of sudden catering to naturals, and now this, there is definitely some Big Brother ish going on over here. Or just snitches
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Hmm, Idk how I feel about the new video she made. I mean I know but right about now I'm not so sure I even want to give my opinion. I feel weird about posting here now.lol.

LOL. Between threads from here being re-posted in the long hair forum, Target and other places all of sudden catering to naturals, and now this, there is definitely some Big Brother ish going on over here. Or just snitches
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You guys should watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIg3WdjaBYA

She posted a better understanding of what happened.

FYI, I was a subscriber and I do actually care about what this young lady has to say. I will also say that I have a life, but right now, I dont. heehee.
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