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How does a public embedable youtube video get "stolen?" and how can you complain that your video is posted in places you don't want? That makes no sense to me.
Originally Posted by Cali Chik
Though I agree that once you make yourself public, you lose most of your rights, I don't think you should be ok with whatever happens with your image. I am not sure where she landed, but some people will straight up use people's hair for their beauty salons or other promotional things without permission.

It may be ok in some instances for people, but not for others. When I went to fotkis ( before they started infected computers with viruses), people always have disclaimers about using their image. I think that holds no weight in the court of law, but people just hope that it won't be used. So since she couldn't control who was using her stuff, guess she felt that was one of the reasons she should take her videos down. As I said in my other comment, I took down my FB page for similar reasons. I didn't like how their privacy settings were allowing all types of stuff, so I opted out.
Originally Posted by curlylcp
But isn't she gonna repost them? If you don't want your image out there then why take down videos just to put them back up? Sure she may be reediting or whatever, but she said she was gonna put them back up. I don't get it. Once your image is out there, it's basically up for grabs from any one. The internet is so huge that it is damn near impossible to control how your s**t is out there once you willingly put your personal info or profile out there.
Ya,

I did see the video that she posted explaining why she actually took her videos down. I don't understand why people just "made up" a reason for why she did what she did but I guess that's just how people are.. always assuming lol. Anyways, I do agree that when you build a large following on YT, you need to understand what you're getting yourself into. Heck, even if you have a small following it's still the same thing. You are subjecting yourself to public scrutiny and not everyone is going to be nice to you. Now I understand that there were a number of legitimate reasons for her to take down her videos and at the end of the day it's all her choice.

I think though that people need to think ahead sometimes, like if you see that your following is growing and there is a potential for you to become a YT partner, I think it would have made more sense to strategically take some down and re-upload them instead of taking them all down because then it's like you're starting from scratch and it draws too much attention. Also, most YT partners don't even make THAT much money.

Also, I've noticed that a lot of youtubers carry this attitude of "it's my channel so I'll do whatever I want with it" type of attitude which is fine but I just think that people should realize that without your viewers, you wouldn't have a large channel or the opportunity to become a YT partner or whatever other opportunities might arise from your success so they need to be a little more appreciative of the people that actually support them (which I'm sure most including Chiselle are).

Aside from that, I really hope that all of these negative comments on hair forums can stop. Like all these rumours and name calling and just flat out being mean in unnecessary. It's one thing to state an opinion, it's another to just be a flat out meanie lol.

Altogether though, I hope she comes back and I hope that everything goes well for her.
Oh ya, I also wanted to share my opinion on the whole controversy over "stealing" videos. I agree for the most part that when you make your videos public and you enable embedding, that means you're allowing people to use your videos on other sites.

However, I think that YTbers do this so that their videos can be shared within reason. If you make a private video than no one can watch it, not even on YT. And what if someone actually asks to feature one of your videos on an appropriate site like a blog or something. Heck, the youtuber themself might even have a blog that they embed their videos on (I do).

What I think these YTbers are referring to when they talk about people "stealing" their videos is when spammy websites use their content to get traffic and all they do is run spammy ads. This looks bad on the YTber and it's not fair to them because they didn't agree to have their videos placed on that site and on top of it, they're not getting any revenue from the site.

When people do this and a YTber gets upset, this can ruin it for everyone because it gives them the idea that they should take their videos down so that no one can watch them which obviously isn't really that great but most people think on an emotional level whether they realize it or not.

On the flip side, even if people are taking your videos and putting them on their site, this gives you additional exposure (if that's what you want). Recently I found a few of my videos on a random site that I obviously didn't authorize but instead of getting mad I just learned to label all of my videos with my website so that people actually know who owns it and if they really like my content they can go back to my site. I do this on ALL of my videos now so I could care less where they go online for the most part as long as people know who actually owns/ made the video. Even if clicking the video back to YT is disabled, my website is engrained on the video because I added it while editting the video.

So, for anyone who has youtube videos out there and you're worried about people "stealing" your videos, don't be. label your videos with your website, name or youtube channel so that people know the real owner and either ways, your videos are getting more views, if that's what you want then yay for you :-) lol
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How does a public embedable youtube video get "stolen?" and how can you complain that your video is posted in places you don't want? That makes no sense to me.
Originally Posted by Cali Chik
people were probably actually stealing them, as in using programs such as VideoGet to download her video, save it to their computers, and reupload as their own.
Ya,


Also, I've noticed that a lot of youtubers carry this attitude of "it's my channel so I'll do whatever I want with it" type of attitude which is fine but I just think that people should realize that without your viewers, you wouldn't have a large channel or the opportunity to become a YT partner or whatever other opportunities might arise from your success so they need to be a little more appreciative of the people that actually support them (which I'm sure most including Chiselle are).


Originally Posted by aJwitaFrO
It might not be about all of that for some folks, some actually have a day job. But if folks don't like something no one is making them go to their channel.
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Meh, I guess I'll be the only one that doesn't care. That's okay My thought is...if you put all ya bizness on the interwebz, act like you trust random strangers, advertise your face and your hair...people are gonna respond like they have a say in what you do because you gave them a say. You gave them a voice and they used it. Everything was hunky dory when they were giving compliments and saying what the person in question wanted to hear, but when opinions oppose..the viewers are out of line? Where's the real mob mentality in this scenario?

Disclaimer: I don't even know the YT person. I think that pic Coco posted is ugggggly but I don't care if a stranger on YT tries it out (actually, could be cool to see it on nappy hair). BUT, YT "gurus", bloggers or whatever want folks to care. That's how they amass an audience. So...let the people continue to care and mind the business of others'.
Originally Posted by AmberBrown
there are opinions and then there are straight b*tches on youtube. i told someone off, let the comment up and someone else got their panties in a bunch. i told that person they could get the hell off my channel too if they didn't like it, im not here to kiss anyone's ass lol.
Originally Posted by empressri
Exactly. I also think it depends on why the person is posting videos. If they are trying to make money off being on the web or want some kind of recognition, then I think that would open them up more to criticism. On the other hand, if someone is taking the time out of their day to let me know how to do a style or tell me that a product smells like doo doo, I appreciate that, so why would I be rude to them? If I didn't like it or find it helpful I would just exit the video...not that difficult. Apparently ppl were commenting on her channel and messaging her (to address the point about disabling comments). Shoot, I would take my stuff down too - no soup for you! Being on YT is not doing a dang thing for me, so when it stops being fun I'm outta there.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
lol, lol, lol
Ya,


Also, I've noticed that a lot of youtubers carry this attitude of "it's my channel so I'll do whatever I want with it" type of attitude which is fine but I just think that people should realize that without your viewers, you wouldn't have a large channel or the opportunity to become a YT partner or whatever other opportunities might arise from your success so they need to be a little more appreciative of the people that actually support them (which I'm sure most including Chiselle are).


Originally Posted by aJwitaFrO
It might not be about all of that for some folks, some actually have a day job. But if folks don't like something no one is making them go to their channel.
Originally Posted by empressri
Ri, I'mma need you to stop reading my mind lol.
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How does a public embedable youtube video get "stolen?" and how can you complain that your video is posted in places you don't want? That makes no sense to me.
Originally Posted by Cali Chik
people were probably actually stealing them, as in using programs such as VideoGet to download her video, save it to their computers, and reupload as their own.
Originally Posted by bananafrosty
I think this is what she meant by stealing. They downloaded her video with a program that could download youtube uploads and then re upload the videos as their own. I see this practice on youtube quite often and most often it's viral videos. But this happened to a youtube user who made makeup tutorials and I can't remember her s/n. Someone uploaded videos and pretended to be her.

I think if she wants to upload again she should put a small side panel copyright or her her s/n ©chisellecouture 2010 or whatever year to deter video the stealer.

Ri, I'mma need you to stop reading my mind lol.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
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I stumbled into this thread, and I was wondering what happened to Chiselle. I LOVED her hair!

But on a second note, I'm gettin' tired of YouTube...period. Folks are too psycho, with this natural hair thing. They've lost their minds..those with videos and their "fans". People act like they're "gods", above reproach/criticism/questioning, etc. It's too much.

I love natural hair, but I love MY OWN the most....better than all the rest (hair). "Love" is used very lightly, and with limits, because it is JUST hair. If I choose to cut my hair, then it's gone. It's done. I don't consult anybody.

The whole "stealing videos" is part of the whole obsession....the worship of mere mortals. But if you put your stuff up, know that many don't care about taking it, with or without your permission. That's how it goes. So, proceed with caution, or leave it alone.

I may occasionally engage and socialize and...dish. But if You Tube was no more, I wouldn't miss a beat.
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Last edited by NEA; 12-25-2010 at 12:15 PM.
Chisellecouture did have some great hair. I'm not surprised by some of the jankiness that goes on online..well, I am surprised at times, but I shouldn't be. People are nuts. I see it on nc.com (non hair mostly) all the time.
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Chisellecouture did have some great hair. I'm not surprised by some of the jankiness that goes on online..well, I am surprised at times, but I shouldn't be. People are nuts. I see it on nc.com (non hair mostly) all the time.
Originally Posted by Phoenix
Yeah...I just skipped over to LHCF, after doing a google search for "chisellecouture", and of course, folks HAD to mention how they thought her cut was "ugly", "but chose not to say anything". I'm like, "You just said something here". Women are a trip, and it's no vacation.

Anyhoo, I miss her videos and I wish her the best.
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I stumbled into this thread, and I was wondering what happened to Chiselle. I LOVED her hair!

But on a second note, I'm gettin' tired of YouTube...period. Folks are too psycho, with this natural hair thing. They've lost their minds..those with videos and their "fans". People act like they're "gods", above reproach/criticism/questioning, etc. It's too much.

I love natural hair, but I love MY OWN the most....better than all the rest (hair). "Love" is used very lightly, and with limits, because it is JUST hair. If I choose to cut my hair, then it's gone. It's done. I don't consult anybody.

The whole "stealing videos" is part of the whole obsession....the worship of mere mortals. But if you put your stuff up, know that many don't care about taking it, with or without your permission. That's how it goes. So, proceed with caution, or leave it alone.

I may occasionally engage and socialize and...dish. But if You Tube was no more, I wouldn't miss a beat.
Originally Posted by NEA

Girl if there were no YouTube my husband would have to stop begging me to watch those stupid viral videos (i.e. Antoine Dodson's Christmas video)! lol!

Sadly there is a penalty for fame, even if you are just posting helpful information. People can be PSYCHO. I never got to see her vids, but kudos to Chiselle for doing her thing.


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