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EllyEllyOxenFree 08-31-2010 03:35 PM

Where is Your Home Training?!
 
So I saw a thread the other day on LHCF, and I wanted to share the topic with you guys because this situation really bothered me (not LHCF, but what the thread was about). Apparently, a popular YouTuber, Chisellecouture (http://www.youtube.com/user/chiselle...e?blend=1&ob=4), removed all her videos due to the backlash she received after she cut her hair and colored it. Now, I'm not sure if you ever saw her videos, but she had EXCELLENT hair and great tutorials. I didn't see her haircut, but it was supposedly short, and not too cute.

But my thing is...why are women being attacked b/c of how they choose to wear their hair? There was another natural haired blogger who was ridiculed because she decided to get a texturizer (I think someone even called her a traitor). The whole thing is just rude and stanky to me. These women take the time to share information and share their journeys with the world, and then when they do something a group of people don't like they get attacked. Are people serious?

hippychic 08-31-2010 04:16 PM

OMG!!!!!! are you friggin serious?!?!?!?!?

she is a really sweet girl! i watched her vids. she had really long hair, offered great tuts. she is a cosmetology student and was in a hair show. i forget what the theme was but she volunteered for the more exotic of the two themes offered by the stylist and donated her hair to locks of love. :flower:

i can't believe women would be so rude, catty ..... to her! this is just awful! if it's not your effn head, why do you care that she cut it?

Decagurl 08-31-2010 04:31 PM

Chisellecouture has beautiful hair and helped me so much in defining my curls and finding products that worked for my hair. The girl is very young, and had tons of subscribers. She cut her hair and died it, so what! She was still natural in terms of texture, but because her hair was no longer down her back, or brown, she isnt worthy of video views anymore? I think these women who are acting like gorillas over it, had some kind of complex and feel they cant look up to her anymore. That's just bizzare and pathetic that she was driven to this point by other african american women. I see plenty of youtubers who can't seem to grow their hair past APL with dyed hair. No one is tripping about that.

EllyEllyOxenFree 08-31-2010 04:36 PM

Yea, her blog and Tumblr are gone too...I'm sorry that's just a mess. I didn't want to be negative on the thread today but that really got on my last nerve. I get that people want someone to inspire them or someone to look up to, but that's so uncalled for...

FoxyCleopatra 08-31-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ellepixie (Post 1457698)
So I saw a thread the other day on LHCF, and I wanted to share the topic with you guys because this situation really bothered me (not LHCF, but what the thread was about). Apparently, a popular YouTuber, Chisellecouture (http://www.youtube.com/user/chiselle...e?blend=1&ob=4), removed all her videos due to the backlash she received after she cut her hair and colored it. Now, I'm not sure if you ever saw her videos, but she had EXCELLENT hair and great tutorials. I didn't see her haircut, but it was supposedly short, and not too cute.

But my thing is...why are women being attacked b/c of how they choose to wear their hair? There was another natural haired blogger who was ridiculed because she decided to get a texturizer (I think someone even called her a traitor). The whole thing is just rude and stanky to me. These women take the time to share information and share their journeys with the world, and then when they do something a group of people don't like they get attacked. Are people serious?

Her hair was cut into a cleopatra bob or china bob, whatever you wanna call it, and it was colored a light brown. She said she got the style for a hair show but she'd been wanting to cut it for some time. My thing is this, it is HER hair. I read quite a few comments on the vid she did debuting the cut and a lot of them were negative. Not just someone saying they didn't like the cut, because a difference of opinion is not negative, but ppl were just out right ignorant. I think ppl get too attached to other ppls hair and start living vicariously through their hair. Ppl should worry about the health of their own hair, or better yet remember that it is ONLY hair and stop having their universe revolve around it LoL. ****in retarded.

afrosheenqueen 08-31-2010 05:09 PM

I've never seen her channel but that is just crazy to me that she would any kind blowback for doing what she wants to her hair.

CocoT 08-31-2010 05:21 PM

Yea I saw her new hair cut and color. It was really edgy. Kind of like this http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:p...copper-bob.jpg
Her bangs and the sides were slightly shorter and when it's curly it looks shorter (of course because of shrinkage). It was very blunt. She did it for a hair show atschool or something. It's not my cup of tea but I'm mostly a plain jane myself. I thought it looked cute on her though. She has that type of style, ya know?

I don't leave negative youtube comments like that. If I don't like what a youtuber is doing or whatever, I just won't comment or stop watching. I only care about natural hair stuff when I'm on youtube so if a youtuber has product reviews or other conversations I'll watch. I watch other youtube videos of different things too but mostly its hair, I'm not gonna front.lol. Why take the time and energy to write a negative comment like that? "Your hair cut doesn't suit you". So the f**k what? I think its rude. It's not constructive. Its a shame she deleted her youtube videos. I kind of had a feeling she would do something like that because she had a video up talking about how she was tired of people giving their condolences about something (I think it was about her new hair) and told people to stop messaging/commenting her about it.

But I don't blame her. Its annoying for people to press their opinions on to you. It happens to me all the time it seems. The other day I was at the grocery store in the spice aisle and this lady came up to me and was all up in my business. She was talking to me about all type of s**t. She was telling me what spices I should buy because she uses them and blah blah blah. Talking to me for 15 minutes. I was like I don't give two squirts of duck sh*t why you use this, I don't know you. I like what spices I use. What the heck is wrong with people these days? She was hassling me for 15 f**king minutes! Keep the s**t movin!!

Curly_Jammy 08-31-2010 07:48 PM

I saw that post and some of the ones before she removed her vids from her youtube channle. I just want to say I have noticed this growing "gang" like mentality on the hairboards and youtube among some naturals and its really off putting. I thought it was ridiculous how everyone attacked kimmytube and now this. Its all really off putting.

EllyEllyOxenFree 08-31-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Curly_Jammy (Post 1457978)
I saw that post and some of the ones before she removed her vids from her youtube channle. I just want to say I have noticed this growing "gang" like mentality on the hairboards and youtube among some naturals and its really off putting. I thought it was ridiculous how everyone attacked kimmytube and now this. Its all really off putting.

When did kimmaytube get attacked? I just think women get too opinionated with what people are doing to their own hair or they see someone as their role model, so they are offended when they cut their hair or get a relaxer or something.

eccentric_kurlz 08-31-2010 08:01 PM

It's called having too much time on your hands to care about what OTHER FOLKS do with their hair.....or life.

It should never get to that point. EVER! Unfortunately, I never had a chance to view pics or her youtube vids. A shame that folks harassed her to the point where she even had to go through such extremes.

freecurl 08-31-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Curly_Jammy (Post 1457978)
I saw that post and some of the ones before she removed her vids from her youtube channle. I just want to say I have noticed this growing "gang" like mentality on the hairboards and youtube among some naturals and its really off putting. I thought it was ridiculous how everyone attacked kimmytube and now this. Its all really off putting.

Agreed.

AmberBrown 08-31-2010 09:12 PM

Meh, I guess I'll be the only one that doesn't care. That's okay :) My thought is...if you put all ya bizness on the interwebz, act like you trust random strangers, advertise your face and your hair...people are gonna respond like they have a say in what you do because you gave them a say. You gave them a voice and they used it. Everything was hunky dory when they were giving compliments and saying what the person in question wanted to hear, but when opinions oppose..the viewers are out of line? Where's the real mob mentality in this scenario?

Disclaimer: I don't even know the YT person. I think that pic Coco posted is ugggggly but I don't care if a stranger on YT tries it out (actually, could be cool to see it on nappy hair). BUT, YT "gurus", bloggers or whatever want folks to care. That's how they amass an audience. So...let the people continue to care and mind the business of others'.

Cali Chik 08-31-2010 10:00 PM

What is that in your avatar?

anyway... ppl just like to get online and talk sh*t... that's what I do... I don't think I bully ppl tho...

Why not just delete their comments or only approve comments? Why completely remove your videos.

CocoT 08-31-2010 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AmberBrown (Post 1458065)
Meh, I guess I'll be the only one that doesn't care. That's okay :) My thought is...if you put all ya bizness on the interwebz, act like you trust random strangers, advertise your face and your hair...people are gonna respond like they have a say in what you do because you gave them a say. You gave them a voice and they used it. Everything was hunky dory when they were giving compliments and saying what the person in question wanted to hear, but when opinions oppose..the viewers are out of line? Where's the real mob mentality in this scenario?

Disclaimer: I don't even know the YT person. I think that pic Coco posted is ugggggly but I don't care if a stranger on YT tries it out (actually, could be cool to see it on nappy hair). BUT, YT "gurus", bloggers or whatever want folks to care. That's how they amass an audience. So...let the people continue to care and mind the business of others'.

You know what, I agree with you on this. Good point.

vain???jane 08-31-2010 11:36 PM

i felt bad for her. the backlash must've been huge for her to remove the videos. i agreed with the majority though that the color and cut was absolutely hideous, but i didn't make a comment on the video, i just clicked out and stopped watching her videos. =/ some people just like to be mean. there are plenty of youtubers who's hair i do like, and i watched them instead of harrassing her. ♥

empressri 08-31-2010 11:43 PM

damn i loved her!!!!!!!!! OMG im so mad.

damn bald headed chicks stay hating on someone. let errbody do them dammit!!!!!

empressri 08-31-2010 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AmberBrown (Post 1458065)
Meh, I guess I'll be the only one that doesn't care. That's okay :) My thought is...if you put all ya bizness on the interwebz, act like you trust random strangers, advertise your face and your hair...people are gonna respond like they have a say in what you do because you gave them a say. You gave them a voice and they used it. Everything was hunky dory when they were giving compliments and saying what the person in question wanted to hear, but when opinions oppose..the viewers are out of line? Where's the real mob mentality in this scenario?

Disclaimer: I don't even know the YT person. I think that pic Coco posted is ugggggly but I don't care if a stranger on YT tries it out (actually, could be cool to see it on nappy hair). BUT, YT "gurus", bloggers or whatever want folks to care. That's how they amass an audience. So...let the people continue to care and mind the business of others'.

there are opinions and then there are straight b*tches on youtube. i told someone off, let the comment up and someone else got their panties in a bunch. i told that person they could get the hell off my channel too if they didn't like it, im not here to kiss anyone's ass lol.

EllyEllyOxenFree 09-01-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by empressri (Post 1458180)
Quote:

Originally Posted by AmberBrown (Post 1458065)
Meh, I guess I'll be the only one that doesn't care. That's okay :) My thought is...if you put all ya bizness on the interwebz, act like you trust random strangers, advertise your face and your hair...people are gonna respond like they have a say in what you do because you gave them a say. You gave them a voice and they used it. Everything was hunky dory when they were giving compliments and saying what the person in question wanted to hear, but when opinions oppose..the viewers are out of line? Where's the real mob mentality in this scenario?

Disclaimer: I don't even know the YT person. I think that pic Coco posted is ugggggly but I don't care if a stranger on YT tries it out (actually, could be cool to see it on nappy hair). BUT, YT "gurus", bloggers or whatever want folks to care. That's how they amass an audience. So...let the people continue to care and mind the business of others'.

there are opinions and then there are straight b*tches on youtube. i told someone off, let the comment up and someone else got their panties in a bunch. i told that person they could get the hell off my channel too if they didn't like it, im not here to kiss anyone's ass lol.

Exactly. I also think it depends on why the person is posting videos. If they are trying to make money off being on the web or want some kind of recognition, then I think that would open them up more to criticism. On the other hand, if someone is taking the time out of their day to let me know how to do a style or tell me that a product smells like doo doo, I appreciate that, so why would I be rude to them? If I didn't like it or find it helpful I would just exit the video...not that difficult. Apparently ppl were commenting on her channel and messaging her (to address the point about disabling comments). Shoot, I would take my stuff down too - no soup for you! Being on YT is not doing a dang thing for me, so when it stops being fun I'm outta there.

hippychic 09-01-2010 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by empressri (Post 1458179)
damn i loved her!!!!!!!!! OMG im so mad.

damn bald headed chicks stay hating on someone. let errbody do them dammit!!!!!

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Originally Posted by ellepixie (Post 1458191)
Quote:

Originally Posted by empressri (Post 1458180)
Quote:

Originally Posted by AmberBrown (Post 1458065)
Meh, I guess I'll be the only one that doesn't care. That's okay :) My thought is...if you put all ya bizness on the interwebz, act like you trust random strangers, advertise your face and your hair...people are gonna respond like they have a say in what you do because you gave them a say. You gave them a voice and they used it. Everything was hunky dory when they were giving compliments and saying what the person in question wanted to hear, but when opinions oppose..the viewers are out of line? Where's the real mob mentality in this scenario?

Disclaimer: I don't even know the YT person. I think that pic Coco posted is ugggggly but I don't care if a stranger on YT tries it out (actually, could be cool to see it on nappy hair). BUT, YT "gurus", bloggers or whatever want folks to care. That's how they amass an audience. So...let the people continue to care and mind the business of others'.

there are opinions and then there are straight b*tches on youtube. i told someone off, let the comment up and someone else got their panties in a bunch. i told that person they could get the hell off my channel too if they didn't like it, im not here to kiss anyone's ass lol.

Exactly. I also think it depends on why the person is posting videos. If they are trying to make money off being on the web or want some kind of recognition, then I think that would open them up more to criticism. On the other hand, if someone is taking the time out of their day to let me know how to do a style or tell me that a product smells like doo doo, I appreciate that, so why would I be rude to them? If I didn't like it or find it helpful I would just exit the video...not that difficult. Apparently ppl were commenting on her channel and messaging her (to address the point about disabling comments). Shoot, I would take my stuff down too - no soup for you! Being on YT is not doing a dang thing for me, so when it stops being fun I'm outta there.

i agree with you two! her hair couldn't jump off her head and attach itself to theirs no matter how hard they closed their eyes and wished it so! :evil1:

i thought the cut was edgy and fit her. she said it was so blunt because of the hair show. she was going to get it cut down even further. the color was pretty. everyone doesn't have to walk around looking the same just because they have natural hair! if they don't like hair cuts, don't get their's cut. if they don't like hair color, don't dye their hair. damn!

even when she posted new vids about something else, those same dumb ass people were commenting on the cut hair vid! i don't think it was so much she wanted compliments rather than criticism. she just got to the point where enough was enough and she was moving on. yt is not the be all, end all for everyone!

also, i also don't see where kimmay was attacked. that's a little dramatic :sleepy3:

rainshower 09-01-2010 06:51 AM

i don't know these people, but i will say that when i was a regular on nappturality.com, i noticed that same kind of mentality with certain groups of women.

there are women who can't just take another person's hair experiences and advice at face value, apply what they can use, and discard what they can't. no, these women covet and seemingly obsess over what other women have growing from their scalps and will cling to every word, method, product suggestion and acquire the precise combs, brushes, scarves, and hair clips that these people say they use.

so much so, that when a member reveals that she has cut off her 10-year-old locs to sport a twa, has flat ironed or permed her waist-length natural hair, or has shaved her sides into a mohawk, her actions cause an uproar and make her a target of virtual side-eyes, finger-shaking, tongue-sucking, uninvited opinions, and sulking. and all of a sudden, the fan base that the member once had, has left her in the dust.

and most of the time (on that site), the women who were coveting and taking such an emotional stock into what another person did to her hair, didn't have a hair texture remotely similar to the person who did a radical change and could never naturally achieve the type of hair that they so desperately obsessed over.

so if you are reading this and find yourself to be a woman who has too much interest in someone else, whether it's how she wears her hair, how she dresses, how she lives, etc., know that that is creepy and oogie behavior and that you should take stock, self-reflect, and work on liking your true self instead of modeling your personal choices after someone else's.


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