Why is Hollywood like this with images? Raven Symone?

It seems like a little while ago Raven supposedly had her natural hair, pics are on this thread:
Raven-Symone's Natural Hair

Then, she was recently on the Wendy William's show aired yesterday, but she had a weave in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zleagJuh6Tw

Now I really like Raven Symone, I even met her in real life before, that was a fun moment!
But what I'm curious about is why did she transition back to wearing weaves?
I've seen a lot of interviews she did and she definitely seems like she has the confidence to tell Hollywood to shut it and accept her for who she is. Not only the confidence, but also the money and fans to back her up. Think how many people she could influence!
I think she looks GORGEOUS in the Wendy Williams show but wow, I think she'd still look gorgeous in natural hair, or, ok, at least a weave resembling our texture.

What has Hollywood done and why aren't many women standing up and telling Hollywood that this is who they are??
I understand sometimes Hollywood wants a certain "look" but if you have the money and influence, the sky's the limit to what someone says you can and cannot do.
A lot of times, it can only take a few people to start something new, big and awesome.
I mean my goodness that girl was so pretty so could you imagine the impact she could've had if she would have worn her hair in a more natural curl?

I guess what makes me a little upset is that seeing her makes me want to slap a lacefront back on until my natural hair grows out more. Because why can't I, as a textured hair female, see someone on TV with MY hair texture or at least something similar to it on a beautiful person like Raven? Why must I see this straight stuff, when last year I didn't see all of that?
Especially when she has so much confidence and influential power? :/ It's kinda saddening because I'm working on my self image but stuff like this just make me want the lacefront until my real hair gets bigger and longer.




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LOL! Gosh, I thought this was OLD news. Raven never FULLY embraced being totally natural as far as her hair is concerned and she made that clear in a few different interviews..including a previous interview she did with Wendy Williams prior to this one you just posted.

I'm was a BIG Raven fan and I got to meet her along with my husband and our son at Six Flags Great Adventure after she did a concert back in 2008.. She was natural back then but her hair was short and she had added dyed burgundy curly pieces to the hair. So it wasn't all hers but it was cute. She has 3c/4a combo hair.

Raven has stated that her hair is "nappy" and she needs her "kitchen" (back of the neck where the hair is tighter curled for some people) permed. She also said that she will ALWAYS employ the use of wigs or weaves. She also said her hair has always been short and it's easier to keep it that way and just toss on a wig or have a weave put on for work. She said she constantly changes her hair.

So in that respect she's virtually no different than a lot of women of color in and not in Hollywood as far as her attitude is concerned about her hair. So I wasn't shocked at all to see her in a weave shortly after I saw her "natural" nor was I suprised when she yet again had a relaxer.

So all this hype about Raven being "natural" was just that.. hype that OTHER PEOPLE not she herself created concerning her hair. She went natural for about a five hot minutes to experiment like she ALWAYS does with her hair. So she's not really going back to weaves cause she never left them behind in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMk2X...eature=related


She (Raven) also did a show on Tyra and mentioned that she's worn weaves since she was 13 and afterwards got her first perm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PBUr...eature=related
Oh and that video of Tyra, Raven, and Chris Rock...

Can I just say Tyra Banks pissed me the hell off with the whole "like biracial" comment and when she said she can't "do this" (as in wear her own hair) because the "upkeep is like crazy". I feel like bytch you haven't ever taken care of your natural hair in your entire life..so you don't know what the upkeep is... the issue is you are just used to wearing a lacefront or a weave and it just seems easier than actually maintaining your own hair.

BTW, Maintaining natural hair is easy as hell once you learn your texture and porosity but she doesn't want to learn about that..she just rather wear weave and wigs.

Cause in Tyra's case there is no excuse to ALWAYS wear so much fake hair. She's not modeling anymore where she has to wear several different styles depending on the show, and plenty of women of color wear their natural hair on TV and maintain it just fine. A prime example is Rachel True and Tracee Ellis Ross. Yeah they both had manipulation done to their hair at various times but both of them worked in Hollywood and rocked their natural hair a good portion of the time. So Tyra just likes weaves (okay..see how you got me ranting on Tyra ? LOL)

And let me just also say don't believe the hype on Tyra either about being "natural". I tried to tell folks that on here last year when threads were flying up about her being "natural" and well I was right..she never went "natural". She ADMITTED that she still gets a "mild" relaxer and so she never went natural. All she did was take off her fake hair, had her own hair, washed, scrunched and blowdried to get that crinkly look. Her hair is much tighter than what's in the video..if you got to her website and look at her pictures when she was a small child.. you can clearly see it. So she's basically texturized which isn't anything but a relaxer just not left on as long.

Now I'm all for people rocking whatever hair they want..natural or unnatural but the thing I like about Raven is that she's never lied about it. She's always been open about her relaxers, her wigs, and weaves. And she's never backtracked claiming she would be natural forever or anything of the sort. Tyra on the other hand sort of fudged things a little when she manipulated the public into thinking she was going "natural" in order to bolster ratings for her season opener.

And well fools bought it hook, line, and sinker.

Last edited by Marah Mizrahi; 09-16-2010 at 05:45 AM.
Hell, Raven may have gotten BORED with her natural hair...it happens. The beauty of being an african american woman is that we can wear so many different styles and look good with them all. Each time a celeb or a non-celeb go natural and then decide they want to wear a weave doesn't mean they are re-conforming to what the media has decided is acceptable...sometimes they want to switch it up and theres nothing wrong with that. I love variety so I will wear a twist out for a few days, a puff maybe...and then I'll get a long straight weave if I'm feeling like I want something different. My hair does not define me, it is like an accessory for me. Whatever my mood calls for, I'm with it. MOST of the time I do prefer wearing my natural hair but its all about preference, whatever style YOU feel good wearing.
Just to add on to Marah's point about Tyra...I saw the show where she had her hair wet, and it was BONE STRAIGHT. She doesn't have a texturizer, she has a straight up relaxer. However, she DID say that to her natural meant wearing her own hair, not wearing her natural texture. It was a misunderstanding that people thought she was going natural regarding her texture, she never said that. ALTHOUGH, given the buzz around being natural that was going on at the time, I think her people used that word on purpose of course so more people would watch the show. I don't like her, never have. Her and Heidi Klum should have a boxing match (Team Heidi!).

Now, to the OP, I'm less concerned with Raven and her hair, and moreso your interpretation of it and how it makes you feel. I understand what you are saying, but it's saddening that you feel as if you should wear a weave or wig and cover your hair because a popular Hollywood face decided to wear straight hair. Personally, I wear wigs sometimes, usually straight wigs (b/c they are easier to care for), when I don't feel like dealing with my hair as a PS, but it doesn't mean I love my natural hair any less.

At the same time, it just doesn't impact me when women don't want to wear their natural hair. Obviously, I love seeing natural hair (I mean, who doesn't love some good hair porn?), but it doesn't upset me if a Hollywood figure wants to get a weave, relaxer, or wig, just as it doesn't upset me when a woman I see on the street does. Having a weave, relaxer, or wig doesn't mean you don't accept your hair...if that's the look one likes, so be it. Yes, it is true that some women don't accept their natural texture, but to me, that's their business, and it doesn't affect my decision to wear my hair natural in the least.

OP, I really encourage you to love your hair because you love your hair, not because you think the world will love it, or because Hollywood loves it. If you don't like short hair (I personally can't WAIT for my hair to grow out), by all means, wear a wig or weave as a protective style while it grows out - just be sure to take care of your hair underneath! You won't be betraying anyone by doing that.
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- don't let everybody elses long straight weave bum you out. don't let other people's big/long natural hair bum you out either. embrace what you have and rock it with confidence, because that's the only way you'll be happy. and whether you realize it or not you are somebody's influence. show them what it truly means to be confident.
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I didn't even know Raven was natural under the wigs/weave. I remember watching Chris Rocks movies "Good Hair" and she was talking about all the different types of hair she usually wears so I don't know if i'd get too hung up on her not wearing her natural hair.
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Just to add on to Marah's point about Tyra...I saw the show where she had her hair wet, and it was BONE STRAIGHT. She doesn't have a texturizer, she has a straight up relaxer. However, she DID say that to her natural meant wearing her own hair, not wearing her natural texture. It was a misunderstanding that people thought she was going natural regarding her texture, she never said that.
Originally Posted by ellepixie

I did see the season opener and yep..her hair was BONE Straight. But that still can be done with a texturizer. You can wet it, comb it out and it will be bone straight but as you scrunch it it will get curly again. When I was in my teens.. I did the same thing to my hair.. it was bone straight when I combed it wet and when I would scrunch it ..then the curls would come back up. And I had a texturizer (which like I said is nothing but a relaxer just not left on as long that's all).

She did admit on Larry King she was "chemically treated". But I KNOW I heard her putting on an act BEFORE the season opener that her hair was "natural" as in no chemicals, no weave, her hair and she was wearing it in that curly ponytail..FRONTIN'. It wasn't until after that she was clear about the fact that she JUST took the weave off beause folks started talking and questioning.

I still think Tyra knew what the hell she was doing..cause she was trying to tie this **** with the Chris Rock movie "Good Hair" and then her season opener and she let people think she was actually going "natural" as in no chemicals. So I still think she's a manipulator.
I love Raven Symone!
Originally Posted by Cali Chik
Meee toooo!!! She's effin awesome
Just to add on to Marah's point about Tyra...I saw the show where she had her hair wet, and it was BONE STRAIGHT. She doesn't have a texturizer, she has a straight up relaxer. However, she DID say that to her natural meant wearing her own hair, not wearing her natural texture. It was a misunderstanding that people thought she was going natural regarding her texture, she never said that.
Originally Posted by ellepixie

I did see the season opener and yep..her hair was BONE Straight. But that still can be done with a texturizer. You can wet it, comb it out and it will be bone straight but as you scrunch it it will get curly again. When I was in my teens.. I did the same thing to my hair.. it was bone straight when I combed it wet and when I would scrunch it ..then the curls would come back up. And I had a texturizer (which like I said is nothing but a relaxer just not left on as long that's all).

She did admit on Larry King she was "chemically treated". But I KNOW I heard her putting on an act BEFORE the season opener that her hair was "natural" as in no chemicals, no weave, her hair and she was wearing it in that curly ponytail..FRONTIN'. It wasn't until after that she was clear about the fact that she JUST took the weave off beause folks started talking and questioning.

I still think Tyra knew what the hell she was doing..cause she was trying to tie this **** with the Chris Rock movie "Good Hair" and then her season opener and she let people think she was actually going "natural" as in no chemicals. So I still think she's a manipulator.
Originally Posted by Marah Mizrahi
Yea who knows, lol, it's like texturizer, relaxer, tomato, tomahto. I used to leave on my relaxer for 45 minutes and I could still scrunch my hair up and make it curly - if you didn't know (LOL), my hair is very resilient.
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- i agree with everything marah has said thus far.

- i'm not sure how i feel when i hear statements like "that's the beauty of black women--we have so many options/our hair is so versatile/etc." anybody with hair has just as many styling options as black women. i think more often than not, black women hide behind that statement as a way to keep firm grasp on hiding their natural hair texture under relaxers and straight weaves. other than diana ross, erykah badu and teyana taylor, i can't think of too many famous black women who choose to hide their hair under highly textured weaves which to me, speaks volumes about their style choices.

- don't let everybody elses long straight weave bum you out. don't let other people's big/long natural hair bum you out either. embrace what you have and rock it with confidence, because that's the only way you'll be happy. and whether you realize it or not you are somebody's influence. show them what it truly means to be confident.
Yea who knows, lol, it's like texturizer, relaxer, tomato, tomahto. I used to leave on my relaxer for 45 minutes and I could still scrunch my hair up and make it curly - if you didn't know (LOL), my hair is very resilient.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
45 minutes.. WOWSA..definitely resilent hair.. I think I used to leave mine on for about 15-20 .. hence why it never got real straight in a dry state until I forced it with so called extra strength lye and it got bone straight wet or dry then. I eventually cut that off and went back to texturizing FOR YEARS. Then I decided.. okay enough is enough..I'm just ending this and going fully natural. Best hair decision I've ever made... it's much easier to maintain the integrity of my hair with no chemical straighter.

Gosh, I can't even believe I did that for so many years. It was such a hassle and while my hair was long..it looked like **** and I just didn't find it easy to care for because I was using tons of products. Now all I need is CG friendly poo, condish, and oil. I could have saved myself years of annoyance by just being all natural.
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- i'm not sure how i feel when i hear statements like "that's the beauty of black women--we have so many options/our hair is so versatile/etc." anybody with hair has just as many styling options as black women. i think more often than not, black women hide behind that statement as a way to keep firm grasp on hiding their natural hair texture under relaxers and straight weaves. other than diana ross, erykah badu and teyana taylor, i can't think of too many famous black women who choose to hide their hair under highly textured weaves which to me, speaks volumes about their style choices.
Originally Posted by subbrock

I thought the same thing when I read that post..but I decided to not start any **** and comment. Cause um..we all know I'm not the most sugar coating type person on the forum. So I left it alone... for once. LOL!

You said it much better than I would have so I'm glad I didn't comment.

I liked Chaka Khan's weave/wigs back in the day... she rocked hers highly textured.
if i ever become famous you guys will never see my natural hair again because i'm investing in one of those giganticly fabulous diana ross/chaka khan/teyana taylor wigs and i'll be singing that horrible willow smith song...

Yea who knows, lol, it's like texturizer, relaxer, tomato, tomahto. I used to leave on my relaxer for 45 minutes and I could still scrunch my hair up and make it curly - if you didn't know (LOL), my hair is very resilient.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
My scalp is on FIRE after reading this!!! LOL I was struggling to keep a relaxer in my hair for 10 min! I'd not scratch my scalp or anything. Me & relaxers were just a hell no.
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- i'm not sure how i feel when i hear statements like "that's the beauty of black women--we have so many options/our hair is so versatile/etc." anybody with hair has just as many styling options as black women. i think more often than not, black women hide behind that statement as a way to keep firm grasp on hiding their natural hair texture under relaxers and straight weaves. other than diana ross, erykah badu and teyana taylor, i can't think of too many famous black women who choose to hide their hair under highly textured weaves which to me, speaks volumes about their style choices.
Originally Posted by subbrock

I thought the same thing when I read that post..but I decided to not start any **** and comment. Cause um..we all know I'm not the most sugar coating type person on the forum. So I left it alone... for once. LOL!

You said it much better than I would have so I'm glad I didn't comment.

I liked Chaka Khan's weave/wigs back in the day... she rocked hers highly textured.
Originally Posted by Marah Mizrahi
You know...I used to think the same thing about straight wigs or loose curls as styling choices...umm...until I bought a curly wig, and after two wears it looked like Dee Snider. It was not the way. Obviously though, I'm not sure if I can use that reason on celebs, because if they're rich, like, shouldn't they be getting the good stuff - like the human hair wigs and weaves you can wash and the hair will bounce back? With synthetic wigs, once the wig gets matted or frizzy, when you wash it all the curls go away and you have to roller set the wig to recurl it. I don't even take the time to roller set my hair, so I sure ain't roller setting no dang wig. While I like the look of the curly hair better, the straight ones are just easier to care for...so maybe they're just lazy? Maybe? Just trying to give the BOTD, lol!
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Yea who knows, lol, it's like texturizer, relaxer, tomato, tomahto. I used to leave on my relaxer for 45 minutes and I could still scrunch my hair up and make it curly - if you didn't know (LOL), my hair is very resilient.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
My scalp is on FIRE after reading this!!! LOL I was struggling to keep a relaxer in my hair for 10 min! I'd not scratch my scalp or anything. Me & relaxers were just a hell no.
Originally Posted by FoxyCleopatra
LOOOOOLLLL trust my scalp was mad at me but my hair wouldn't get straight! I still had this one spot on my side part that was still wavy...ironically, now that I'm natural it's one of the loosest parts of my head. Once I ran out of relaxer half way through and my mom wasn't home...this was before we had cell phones so I had to WAIT for her to get home then get her to go to Sally and get me more...all while leaving the other side in my head. That relaxer stayed on for about an hour and a half. Honestly, yea, I used to burn my scalp ALL the time, but I (or my mom) touched up my hair like every 6-8 weeks like clockwork for about 20 years, so you get used to it and accept it, ya know?
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if i ever become famous you guys will never see my natural hair again because i'm investing in one of those giganticly fabulous diana ross/chaka khan/teyana taylor wigs and i'll be singing that horrible willow smith song...
Originally Posted by subbrock
Oh Lawd... ROFL! Now you sound like me because I would do the same thing and I would get the full lion kings main just like Diana Ross:



I already toss my hair back on both sides at the same time just like Diana used to do on stage. My husband has to say sometimes.. "Um.. okay Diana!"

ROFLMAO!

For award shows.. I would rock this in particular and just keep tossing my hair left and right on the red carpet and flip it during interviews like I was cute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx9-C...x=0&playnext=1

I already toss my hair back on both sides at the same time just like Diana used to do on stage. My husband has to say sometimes.. "Um.. okay Diana!"

ROFLMAO!

For award shows.. I would rock this in particular and just keep tossing my hair left and right on the red carpet and flip it during interviews like I was cute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx9-C...x=0&playnext=1
Originally Posted by Marah Mizrahi
that is my daughter! when she wears her hair down, she gets to whipping it around and tossing it out of her face and the first thing i say is, "okay diana..."
- i agree with everything marah has said thus far.

- i'm not sure how i feel when i hear statements like "that's the beauty of black women--we have so many options/our hair is so versatile/etc." anybody with hair has just as many styling options as black women. i think more often than not, black women hide behind that statement as a way to keep firm grasp on hiding their natural hair texture under relaxers and straight weaves. other than diana ross, erykah badu and teyana taylor, i can't think of too many famous black women who choose to hide their hair under highly textured weaves which to me, speaks volumes about their style choices.
Originally Posted by subbrock
Ok, and when they wear both..??? Too many natural women think that just bc a woman chooses to wear a weave or relaxer that they have issues with themselves or their "hiding" their true self....yes, its true in many cases, but certainly not all. Some just like versatility like myself and a few of my friends..we feel we look good with any of it so we rock it. Hair is taken way too seriously in the black community imo.
I think that going natural for a lot of women these days is just a fad sadly, and soon it'll be on to the next trend. Its truthfully all about what makes that person feel good. I will never turn my nose up at a celeb or non-celeb for wearing a weave or being relaxed, whatever works...I wont lose sleep.

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