4b henna. before & after

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So...can you post some pics of your henna'd hair with the amla added? (pretty please!)
Originally Posted by belwillcoily
Sorry this took so long. I stopped using alma for a bit to brighten things up. But here is my last photo with alma from Oct.
Originally Posted by rakakan
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So...can you post some pics of your henna'd hair with the amla added? (pretty please!)
Originally Posted by belwillcoily
Sorry this took so long. I stopped using alma for a bit to brighten things up. But here is my last photo with alma from Oct.
Originally Posted by rakakan
Okay, so what henna/amla mix recipe did you use to get that color on your strands?

I am heavily gray along my front hair line and am getting more and more gray all the way back through my front to crown and sides. I tried just doing henna and amla and skipping the indigo and I was unable to get that beautiful cherry-brown almost mahagony color that you have. Instead I got the icky fiery-reddish orange color deposit on my grays (see pic below).

I used 150 grams of henna and 50 grams of amla. I mixed the henna with tea (like I always do) and added ginger and clove spice for scent purposes as well as a few drops of EO (orange and cinnamon scents). I let the henna sit overnight for dye release then added the amla the next morning. I let the henna and amla sit maybe for 30 minutes (if that) before I put it on and left it on for 4 hours.

Pray tell me what I did wrong? I was shooting for the color you have on your tresses with the henna and amla. Now I'm sitting here with indigo so I can darken this disaster back up. I hate it and so does my hubby (and he usually has nothing bad to say about my hair)...

Also, how in the HELL-O do you get this amla out of your hair? It is extremely hard for me to rinse it out of mine.
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Oh no belwillcoily! That is pretty orange/coppery. I'm sorry it didn't work out the first time around.
First, fear not. Henna gets deeper and less coppery the more you apply it.

Second, I've read good things on the Experiences with Henna thread about the sift of Hesh alma and organic alma from hennasooq. If you order online, I'd call/email the seller and ask how finely sifted the powder is.

Third, I actually use my alma to directly affect dye release. Alma is acidic. So, where some folks mix henna with lemon juice etc, I just mix my henna with alma and water. I believe the alma sitting in the henna overnight is key.
Alma is a bit of a contradiction as it promotes dye release but mutes the intensity of the dye. Adding alma at the last minute is not going to mute the henna much (if at all). It will still aid in maintaining your curl pattern, though.

Fourth, I think the ratio of henna/alma is fine. Let's assume you try letting the alma sit in the henna overnight. If the tea is acidic, you might want to try distilled water (or half tea half distilled water). You should be able to achieve that deeper mahogany color in ~3 applications over ~6 weeks.

Fifth, I didn't bother with indigo to achieve that color. I tried indigo twice, a couple years ago. Found I didn't care for the smell, it wore off quickly and I'd be left with a more firey henna color. So, I just switched to henna and alma instead. I understand you're using indigo as a temporary fix. I initially thought indigo would give me a brunette but found I liked the alma/henna mix better.

Good luck!

Last edited by rakakan; 01-17-2012 at 01:03 PM.
Oh no belwillcoily! That is pretty orange/coppery. I'm sorry it didn't work out the first time around.
First, fear not. Henna gets deeper and less coppery the more you apply it.

Second, I've read good things on the Experiences with Henna thread about the sift of Hesh alma and organic alma from hennasooq. If you order online, I'd call/email the seller and ask how finely sifted the powder is.

Third, I actually use my alma to directly affect dye release. Alma is acidic. So, where some folks mix henna with lemon juice etc, I just mix my henna with alma and water. I believe the alma sitting in the henna overnight is key.
Alma is a bit of a contradiction as it promotes dye release but mutes the intensity of the dye. Adding alma at the last minute is not going to mute the henna much (if at all). It will still aid in maintaining your curl pattern, though.

Fourth, I think the ratio of henna/alma is fine. Let's assume you try letting the alma sit in the henna overnight. If the tea is acidic, you might want to try distilled water (or half tea half distilled water). You should be able to achieve that deeper mahogany color in ~3 applications over ~6 weeks.

Fifth, I didn't bother with indigo to achieve that color. I tried indigo twice, a couple years ago. Found I didn't care for the smell, it wore off quickly and I'd be left with a more firey henna color. So, I just switched to henna and alma instead. I understand you're using indigo as a temporary fix. I initially thought indigo would give me a brunette but found I liked the alma/henna mix better.

Good luck!
Originally Posted by rakakan
Thanks so much for your helpful reply.

So basically I need to use the amla as the acidic agent for dye release with the henna. I think if I do that, I'll just skip the tea and use plain water for both the amla and the henna.

The other thing I'm realizing is that I'll have to henna more frequently until I get the dark mahagony color deposit on my gray strands. Right now, I henna once a month, but if I'm reading your post correctly, I'll need to henna every two weeks for 6 weeks to get that color. Right?

Again, thanks for your input and help. Hopefully in the future, I can post a pic with success showcased instead of an orange/coppery disaster. LOL!
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Thanks so much for your helpful reply.

So basically I need to use the amla as the acidic agent for dye release with the henna. YUP I think if I do that, I'll just skip the tea and use plain water for both the amla and the henna.

The other thing I'm realizing is that I'll have to henna more frequently until I get the dark mahagony color deposit on my gray strands. Right now, I henna once a month, but if I'm reading your post correctly, I'll need to henna every two weeks for 6 weeks to get that color. Right? Well, this is the "fast forward" schedule. Personally, I only hennaed once a month and achieved that dark color over ~6-8 months. But, if you don't wanna wait that long it won't hurt to henna more frequently to start. Once you get the color you like, you can henna less often.

Again, thanks for your input and help. Hopefully in the future, I can post a pic with success showcased instead of an orange/coppery disaster. LOL!
Originally Posted by belwillcoily
Hope you stick with it!

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