If she is using a base, she would not be adding another emulsifier. That would mean heating the base and with a preservative already in it, that will make the preservative not effective anymore.

IA with Elle. If it was a base, her butters would be at least consistent. When using bases, people don't add an excess of 5% of stuff into it (I think I'm remembering this correctly, don't remember where I read this). You can't do that or you will make everything unstable. In order to add any solids, you would have to heat the base to the melting point of the new solid (e.g., emulsifier) usually 65 C or more, at which point the preservative and all other heat sensitive ingredients in the base, are not effective anymore

Also, emulsifying wax feels very different from something like ecomulse. E-wax is very waxy-feeling and you would not be getting that smooth, wet like feel with it, as you do with ecomulse. So, no, I don't think she uses e-wax at all. I've used both emulsifiers and I would not be putting e-wax in my hair because it's too waxy for me (every product I've tried that has used e-wax as an emulsifier left my hair feeling waxy and coated--beautiful curls leave in, sheamoisture curl and style milk for example)

I agree with Naturalista...e-wax, if used correctly, doesn't have to be all icky feeling. I think it depends on the product.

And hippychic...don't even get me started on the chocolate smell!!! I am sitting here with my Cocolatte now...and was reading the ingredients like wait...how the hell does this smell like chocolate when she doesn't list any kind of fragrance oil and shea butter DOES NOT smell like chocolate...

BINGO. Maybe that's why her butters are molding and/or smelling funny and people are complaining about the consistency issue. You've got to admit, when she first started out, i don't recall ANYONE complaining about stuff getting moldy fast or about them seperating. Once she started added more stuff to her butters and changing the ingredients,...that's when the complaints started.

I agree with Naturalista...e-wax, if used correctly, doesn't have to be all icky feeling. I think it depends on the product.

And hippychic...don't even get me started on the chocolate smell!!! I am sitting here with my Cocolatte now...and was reading the ingredients like wait...how the hell does this smell like chocolate when she doesn't list any kind of fragrance oil and shea butter DOES NOT smell like chocolate...

Damn!! Beat me to the punch NCC!! ^5!!

E-wax doesn't have to be all bad. I don't deal in wax, but is it all all or nothing phenomena? How much you need to emulsify is product dependent, and if she's using something additional to emulsify to make the consistency more uniform can you you really predict what you'll get, especially if heat is added to the mix?

I think she said it was from the raw coco butter. And yes coco butter can have a FAINT scent like coco....but she's lying if she says she's not adding fragrance to that product.

An AfroVeda Consulting report...not much, but very interesting and may explain all her tomfoolery.

+1. Plus, a dry blend containing fatty alcohols and an emulsifier isn't a base per se. You have to add the water, oils, herbs, preservative, etc yourself making it a unique formula. Bulk liquid, cream and butter bases are pre-fabricated formulas that already contain all the water, oils, herbs, preservative, etc needed. The customer only needs to add scent to finish. Naturmulse is an emulsifier like BTMS and a million others out there which every emulsion needs, commercial or handmade. Without an emulsifier the product will separate.

funny though there is NO cocobutter in the cocolatte... I was very confused about this. No one will not buy your product because it has fragrance, just say what's in it

using a blend of emulsifiers is not the same as a base. Otherwise, we can say that everyone who uses BTMS is using a base and that's not true at all. A base is an emulsion (in the case of conditioner or lotion) that is created in bulk and all you need to do is add fragrance and preservative (and sometimes just fragrance)

I'm not denying whatever she is doing is shady (whatever it is we don't know). I'm just saying e-wax feels very different from ecomulse. Even if you have a little (and all you need is a little to emulsify depending on your formula. E-wax would not give the same product feel as ecomulse. I've used both, so I know. And if you mix them both you will not get the same feel as either and it still won't be as good as ecomulse

Yes, people started complaining when she added the ricemilk. Things like that milk powders, even aloe are tricky to preserve, so you have to know what you are doing. If at first her preservative system was working right and then she added the milk and didn't see if her system is working with the new formula, then that's what you get spoiled milk smell

DAYUM...its amazing what you can find on the internet.

This line made me laugh out loud "Each Ayurveda recipe is intricately delicate and requires much attention to detail, which simply cannot be guaranteed if a third party were to assume charge"

Actually, I think if she went and got everything outsourced to a third party manufucturer, things might be better, but its hard to do that when 75% of your products are bases (Assuming the butters are not)