Hair Products and Their Bases

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I didn't mean for this thread to turn into this but....I ain't mad...
Originally Posted by ellepixie

This thread could help a lot of women who are thinking of starting their own hair care line, sell products, etc.

I think this thread is great.

Research, research and more research.
Originally Posted by finehair
I agree. There so many here who practicing to be hairstylists or are already hairstylists. I know some already sell their own hair products on the side. This thread could help.
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Just to sum up and clarify on the AV conditioners because several bases were found and I made an error on 2 of the conditioners.

- Holy Basil, Coconut Moisture, & Neem - If you like these you can use this: http://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/i...category_id=53

- Ashlii Amala Red Rasberry Mask has a base that can be found on the EW site. http://www.essentialwholesale.com/s....gory.107069/.f

- If you like the The Tea Tree and Lemon, Ylang, CinnaMint, B.A.R.E, and possibly the Ananda (???) conditioners, you can use these bases: http://www.bulkskincare.com/Bulk-Tea...-p/741gcot.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Bulk-Aro...-p/741gcoy.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Aromathe...-p/741gcor.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Conditio...n-p/75coag.htm

The Prana and Miss Bhuriti seem to be an EW base of some kind but I'm not sure. I'm not sure what base (if they are from a base) the Kissi and Nu Milk conditioners are.
Originally Posted by afrosheenqueen
Wooooow. I see Essential Wholesale is the place to be now.
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Just to sum up and clarify on the AV conditioners because several bases were found and I made an error on 2 of the conditioners.

- Holy Basil, Coconut Moisture, & Neem - If you like these you can use this: http://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/i...category_id=53

- Ashlii Amala Red Rasberry Mask has a base that can be found on the EW site. http://www.essentialwholesale.com/s....gory.107069/.f

- If you like the The Tea Tree and Lemon, Ylang, CinnaMint, B.A.R.E, and possibly the Ananda (???) conditioners, you can use these bases: http://www.bulkskincare.com/Bulk-Tea...-p/741gcot.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Bulk-Aro...-p/741gcoy.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Aromathe...-p/741gcor.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Conditio...n-p/75coag.htm

The Prana and Miss Bhuriti seem to be an EW base of some kind but I'm not sure. I'm not sure what base (if they are from a base) the Kissi and Nu Milk conditioners are.
Originally Posted by afrosheenqueen
damn...it's that serious
Yea wow I didn't know AfroVeda was doing their customers like that...I've never bought the conditioners though but wow!
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IDGAD If Mala is upset. WE regulating up in hea now. This is what happens when you double cross and bite the hand that feeds ya...

plus leave your pants down on the net with a business plan that basically states your business isn't much of one and you need to step ya game up.

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lemme go look into buying some bases. LOL!!!
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So Zipporah changed her site to say that she hand makes the Vanilla Mint Moisturizing Hair Serum. Ingredients:Organic Aloe Juice, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Witch Hazel, Grapeseed Oil, Meadowfoam Oil, Fractionated Coconut Oil, Jojoba Oil, Avocado Oil, Vitamin E, Rosemary Oleoresin, Phenoxyethanol, Carbomer, TEA, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Neem, Black Willow Bark Extract,Essential Oils
If this is true...shieeeeeeeeet she better get a lawyer and sue Essential Wholesale cause they stole her recipe and is selling it as

Aloe Jelly

Ingredients/Tech Specs:
Aloe barbadensis (Organic Aloe) Juice, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Hamamelis virginiana (Witch Hazel), Phenoxyethanol, Carbomer, TEA, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid

AND

Jojoba Creme
Ingredients/Tech Specs:
Aloe barbadensis (Organic Aloe) Juice, Cocos nucifera (Organic Coconut) Oil, Emulsifying Wax NF, Palm Stearic Acid, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Simmondsia chinensis (Jojoba) Oil, Vitis vinifera (Grapeseed) Oil, Persea americana (Avocado) Oil, Hamamelis virginiana (Witch Hazel), Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Phenoxyethanol, Xanthan Gum (Polysaccharide Gum), Salix nigra (Organic Black Willowbark) Extract, Mannan, Azadirachta indica (Neem) Oil, Rosmarinus officinalis (Rosemary) Oleoresin, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid
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Naturally OUT since Sept. 21, 2008
Products in current rotation:
Terressentials Left Coast Lemon, Oyin Honey Dew,Hairveda Cocoshasta Oil,Darcy's Botanicals MVSC
11/20/11 Currently testing out Living Proof's RESTORE Deep Conditioner.
This is BS, I had no idea all these companies are using a base and then adding like 1 or 2 oils, and calling it custom?? and all natural and organic, WTF!
The wholesale sites, don't even claim the prodcuts are all natural and 100% organic.

Buying from small boutique companies, implies, the products are hand crafted, made in small batches, with quality ingredients, rather they are in hair care, food stuffs, cheese makers, or wine producers.

Its a LIE , to make it seem like you are selling a unique product, when its not!!
3c, fine, porous,MBL
Pre: EVCO Poo: GTTT DC:AO GPB, TJ Nourish Spa+EVOO
LI: Cantu Shea butter LI, YesToCarrots,(AVJ+H2O) Spritz
Style: AVG, Eco Seal: Qp Mango & Olive oil, Shea AloeMix
well no wonder so many ppl are selling hair products. here i was thinking i missed something in chemistry class or something, b/c SOME vendors can barely communicate in english (their first language) but have a whole damn product line...
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Afroveda's Holy Basil, Coconut Moisture, Neem, Kissi, Nu Milk, and Emu are made from this base. You can add ingredients or herbs as you like. http://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/i...category_id=53

Her other conditioners are from the Cetyl Alcohol, Stearyl Alcohol (together these are called Cetearyl, the name she uses), Stearalkonium Chloride, Dimethyl Stearamine, Lactic Acid type of base I mentioned above.

Mala also gets NatureMulse, the emulsifier she uses for her butters, from here as well. I bought some to experiment with.
Originally Posted by afrosheenqueen

I think Mala uses a base for her butters too.
Only thing different in her butters are the oils/essential oil blend she uses.
Originally Posted by finehair
and LOVE. yall keep forgetting the love she uses to make her butters. thats where the other $13 come from. love is expensive dammit.
well no wonder so many ppl are selling hair products. here i was thinking i missed something in chemistry class or something, b/c SOME vendors can barely communicate in english (their first language) but have a whole damn product line...
Originally Posted by keenyme

+1
3c, fine, porous,MBL
Pre: EVCO Poo: GTTT DC:AO GPB, TJ Nourish Spa+EVOO
LI: Cantu Shea butter LI, YesToCarrots,(AVJ+H2O) Spritz
Style: AVG, Eco Seal: Qp Mango & Olive oil, Shea AloeMix
Thank you all for putting these companies on blast. Companies think they are slick but they dont have nothing on ya'll. I wish KBB was a base

Loving this thread. Ya'll are the best
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well no wonder so many ppl are selling hair products. here i was thinking i missed something in chemistry class or something, b/c SOME vendors can barely communicate in english (their first language) but have a whole damn product line...
Originally Posted by keenyme
LOL
4a/b Texlaxed hair w/ highlights. Medium texture & high porosity.

HG's: CJ Daily Fix, Bobeam Cheris Hibiscus shampoo bar, KC Spiral Spritz, Knot Today, CJ Rehab, KBB LL Hair Mask, Cassia, KCCC, oil blend of Avocado, Camellia, Jojoba, & Meadowfoam oils

SL APL BSL MBL
So Zipporah changed her site to say that she hand makes the Vanilla Mint Moisturizing Hair Serum. Ingredients:Organic Aloe Juice, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Witch Hazel, Grapeseed Oil, Meadowfoam Oil, Fractionated Coconut Oil, Jojoba Oil, Avocado Oil, Vitamin E, Rosemary Oleoresin, Phenoxyethanol, Carbomer, TEA, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Neem, Black Willow Bark Extract,Essential Oils
If this is true...shieeeeeeeeet she better get a lawyer and sue Essential Wholesale cause they stole her recipe and is selling it as

Aloe Jelly
Ingredients/Tech Specs:
Aloe barbadensis (Organic Aloe) Juice, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Hamamelis virginiana (Witch Hazel), Phenoxyethanol, Carbomer, TEA, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid

AND

Jojoba Creme
Ingredients/Tech Specs:
Aloe barbadensis (Organic Aloe) Juice, Cocos nucifera (Organic Coconut) Oil, Emulsifying Wax NF, Palm Stearic Acid, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Simmondsia chinensis (Jojoba) Oil, Vitis vinifera (Grapeseed) Oil, Persea americana (Avocado) Oil, Hamamelis virginiana (Witch Hazel), Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Phenoxyethanol, Xanthan Gum (Polysaccharide Gum), Salix nigra (Organic Black Willowbark) Extract, Mannan, Azadirachta indica (Neem) Oil, Rosmarinus officinalis (Rosemary) Oleoresin, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid
Originally Posted by divadee62
Here's how you can tell if its a base from EW. Black willow bark extract. It's not an ingredient that handmade products usually have. I always look for that ingredient and a red flag goes up.
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Afroveda's Holy Basil, Coconut Moisture, Neem, Kissi, Nu Milk, and Emu are made from this base. You can add ingredients or herbs as you like. http://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/i...category_id=53

Her other conditioners are from the Cetyl Alcohol, Stearyl Alcohol (together these are called Cetearyl, the name she uses), Stearalkonium Chloride, Dimethyl Stearamine, Lactic Acid type of base I mentioned above.

Mala also gets NatureMulse, the emulsifier she uses for her butters, from here as well. I bought some to experiment with.
Originally Posted by afrosheenqueen

I think Mala uses a base for her butters too.
Only thing different in her butters are the oils/essential oil blend she uses.
Originally Posted by finehair
and LOVE. yall keep forgetting the love she uses to make her butters. thats where the other $13 come from. love is expensive dammit.
Originally Posted by keenyme
You are SO WRONG for this!! in the name of LOVE!!! Bahahahahaha puttin' this lady all out on front street! Talking 'bout all kinds of emulsifying wax and isht to "blend" the final product...don't you know that love will keep it together??
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Just to sum up and clarify on the AV conditioners because several bases were found and I made an error on 2 of the conditioners.

- Holy Basil, Coconut Moisture, & Neem - If you like these you can use this: http://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/i...category_id=53

- Ashlii Amala Red Rasberry Mask has a base that can be found on the EW site. http://www.essentialwholesale.com/s....gory.107069/.f

- If you like the The Tea Tree and Lemon, Ylang, CinnaMint, B.A.R.E, and possibly the Ananda (???) conditioners, you can use these bases: http://www.bulkskincare.com/Bulk-Tea...-p/741gcot.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Bulk-Aro...-p/741gcoy.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Aromathe...-p/741gcor.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Conditio...n-p/75coag.htm

The Prana and Miss Bhuriti seem to be an EW base of some kind but I'm not sure. I'm not sure what base (if they are from a base) the Kissi and Nu Milk conditioners are.
Originally Posted by afrosheenqueen
And don't forget that all the aromaland bases have dimethicone in them and Mala removed that ingredient from her ingredient list as well as the red ginger powder?? ingredient. So she's not selling a cone free product.
http://www.etsy.com/shop/nbdcosmetic...ion_id=7427721

She is selling an avocado and honey shampoo. The base is here http://www.newdirectionsaromatics.co...ee-p-1191.html

She just mixed in honey and avocado pulp.
I want to know this: since she was using bases, why was/is her turnaround time so high? Its obvious all she was doing was pouring the bases into a bottle or jar so what makes her job so difficult? It can't be quality because the products are essentially already made. How long does it take to doctor up a base?

So basically I'm getting the the justifications for the price increase that are basically saying she needed to do them to hire extra help or more of Mala's time is complete bull****. I remember talk of her being untrusting of other people working with her and not mixing the stuff right, and I think it even said that to some effect in the letter. It was bull**** because all she had to do was "bottle it up" like Sara Bareilles.

And on top of all that, some of the bases were not even claiming to be 100% Organic. And some had silicone in them!! Silicone?! Since when is buying a base, adding two or three oils and other bull**** and charging up the a** for a product that I can just buy the base to and add my own sh*t. I've been eyeing that Ashili Amala deep conditioner right, so instead of paying over $20 for 8 oz of product, I can buy the base http://www.essentialwholesale.com/s....gory.107069/.f in 16oz (the smallest size) for $8.95. Then I can add my own oils to it, or not, and BOOM CLACK CLANK I made a deep conditioner.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds

-Albert Einstein
Discounts:iHerb: EZA283 for $5 off!, OCO522 for $10 off first purchase | Komaza Care Referral Code: J5Q362VG
http://www.etsy.com/shop/nbdcosmetic...ion_id=7427721

She is selling an avocado and honey shampoo. The base is here http://www.newdirectionsaromatics.co...ee-p-1191.html

She just mixed in honey and avocado pulp.
Originally Posted by sassywillow
What the hell? I hope she didn't think people were going to think she made that mess with a POLYQUAT in it...I can't stand these people. They're ruining it for the real mixtresses.
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Thanks for posting this. I've never brought any of her products and I definitely wont now; since I can get them from a wholesaler (EW look out cause here I come) and add oils of my own. I think she is completely out of line for telling people that her products are all organic, and all handmade( right there). That's false/misleading advertisement. She has a lot of explaining to do to her consumers. She just needs to make sure she listing the correct ingredients for her products.So that people can make an informed decision when purchasing her products. Also I read that one of her products smell like rotten milk wth.

- Holy Basil, Coconut Moisture, & Neem - If you like these you can use this: http://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/i...category_id=53

- Ashlii Amala Red Rasberry Mask has a base that can be found on the EW site. http://www.essentialwholesale.com/s....gory.107069/.f

- If you like the The Tea Tree and Lemon, Ylang, CinnaMint, B.A.R.E, and possibly the Ananda (???) conditioners, you can use these bases: http://www.bulkskincare.com/Bulk-Tea...-p/741gcot.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Bulk-Aro...-p/741gcoy.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Aromathe...-p/741gcor.htm

http://www.bulkskincare.com/Conditio...n-p/75coag.htm
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http://www.etsy.com/shop/nbdcosmetic...ion_id=7427721

She is selling an avocado and honey shampoo. The base is here http://www.newdirectionsaromatics.co...ee-p-1191.html

She just mixed in honey and avocado pulp.
Originally Posted by sassywillow
What the hell? I hope she didn't think people were going to think she made that mess with a POLYQUAT in it...I can't stand these people. They're ruining it for the real mixtresses.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
*sigh* sad. The more we uncover, the sadder this all seems. I mean really. THIS is what folks feel they need to do to make a living? Scheme and lie?
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Low porosity thick/coarse texture. nml elasticity
Routine: No rules, just happy hair

Cleanse: CJDF, Prell, LUSH Curly Wurly, Bobeam
LI/RO:BBB, CJ, SheaM, HEHIS, Garnier, KBN Shealoe, CD Chocolat, Oyin HH
Styling: CJ, CR, UFD, Zuresh, Ecostyler,MJ
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