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Old 10-23-2010, 02:40 PM   #1
 
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Default Making deep conditioners out of "regular" conditioners?

Has anyone ever added butters, oils etc to regular cheap conditioners (TRESemme, Suave, Vo5, etc) to make deep conditioners? If so, which ones, amounts, etc? Since I have so much of these conditioners and not enough deep treatments, I want to transform some of my lightweight conditioners and more useful during the coming months.

I was thinking of buying shea, avocado, coffee, and/or cupuacu butters and mixing it in my Suave Coconut Milk, or Vo5 Moisture Milk conditioner, but don't want to end up with a big mess....
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I've added oils to cheapie conditioners. Not to make them, deep conditioners. Only to add more slip to a conditioner. I don't remember the amount I used.
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I have added honey, melted shea butter and various oils to cheap condishes. It kicked it up a bit. Or I will use condish to better distribute the ingredients of my homemade deep treatments.
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:03 PM   #4
 
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Yes. I used to take Suave Naturals Coconut about a cup, add 2 eggs for protein, add 4 tablespoons of melted warm coconut oil because it helps with the absorption of protein. I beat it all with an egg beater until creamy smooth. Applied it to wet clean hair and slapped on a plastic shower cap, sat under dryer for approx 30 minutes.

It actually was a really good protein treatment for my hair. And I definitely think it help tremendously with my porosity issues that happened that time I tried to see if I could remove black dye from my hair. I did this treatment weekly for months. It worked very well while my hair slowly found it's balance.

I also did it with Tresemme Naturals..same recipe minus the Suave. I even would add a little olive oil sometimes..I prefer the Suave Naturals over the Tresemme for this protein treatment.

My Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition moisturizing treatment was The GFTN, some distilled water, extra virgin olive oil. Sometime I would add a bit of castor oil. I used to just eyeball that.. not use exact measurements.
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1. I always imagined butters mixed in conditioners would leave hair greasy.. or not rinse clean.. im curious to see how that works out.

2. I dont even like suave and v05 for cowashing because theyre not rich enough, I never thought to DT with them.. ive DTed with Tresemme & GarnierTN, ones in that range I imagine would work better.
Also, the classic combo for souping up conditioners I always think of is Honey (or agave) and oil.. I prefer avocado or olive, theyre said to actually be able to penetrate the hair shaft like coconut. Avocado behaves alot like coconut to me..

coconut milk & baby banana food are also some good (cheap) additives to DT w.. & do like sagehen said and use the cheapie condishes to thicken the mix!
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I do it all the time! Usually when I do DCs I add regular conditioner to thicken it up a bit. I also used to use Tresemme Naturals as my DC with added honey and evoo. I didn't really measure I just kept the consistency creamy. If you have a more expensive DC you can also add a cheapie condish to it so you don't use as much.

Now butters - I don't think I would add because they are usually more solid in texture.
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:34 PM   #7
 
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Yeah..I'm with you ladies.. I wouldn't add the shea butter to my DT's either. I would think it would be hard to rinse it out without shampooing. And I don't shampoo after a DT.

They have that stuff called "shea butter oil" though. Obviously it's cut with oil to make it stay liquid. But that might work if someone REALLY wanted to use shea in their homemade DT. Another option is just use a conditioner that contains Shea already. Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition already has shea in it!
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I just slap a few of my fav conditioners on my head..put a shower cap, a du-rag and a satin bonnet..and leave it on my hair for 24+ hours and I call that a DC..LOL...the 3 caps are to lock in the heat my body make..IDK but it has worked 4 me..
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Thanks for the tips and ideas! I think I will add avocado oil to my conditioner to see if that will work. Since my hair loves protein, I will try an egg or two too.
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To my Vo5 and Suave, I would add honey, EVOO, and peppermint oil for scalp stimulation. It seemed like it was still missing a 'lil somethin' somethin', even after sitting under a hooded dryer. Like Reeky said, those 2 condishes aren't rich to begin with. Once I used up my stash, the PJ in me moved on to other stuff, and I haven't looked back.

It went something like this...Now, keep in mind I was a newbie...and I'm sensitive about my sht *Erykah Badu*

1/2 cup condish
1/4 cup EVOO
1/8 cup honey
1 drop peppermint oil
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To my Vo5 and Suave, I would add honey, EVOO, and peppermint oil for scalp stimulation. It seemed like it was still missing a 'lil somethin' somethin', even after sitting under a hooded dryer. Like Reeky said, those 2 condishes aren't rich to begin with. Once I used up my stash, the PJ in me moved on to other stuff, and I haven't looked back.

It went something like this...Now, keep in mind I was a newbie...and I'm sensitive about my sht *Erykah Badu*

1/2 cup condish
1/4 cup EVOO
1/8 cup honey
1 drop peppermint oil
Interesting because my hair loves heavy, deep conditioners...Ill try with what I have once and move on too if it doesnt work out...God knows I have plenty of EVOO, honey, coconut oil, etc since I buy so much in bulk at the co-op...
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Old 10-24-2010, 05:00 PM   #12
 
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For folks that like silicones. I add some heat protecting serum to my cheapie Skala conditioners. When I rinse I love the results. Also I add castor oil to everythang just cause I love it
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Old 10-24-2010, 05:17 PM   #13
 
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I just add olive butter infused with herbs and/or ayurvetic powders to a cheapie conditioner.
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Default Do you mix your FSG with anything or other products?

I made almost 16 ounces of of FSG last night and am wondering what you all mix in or with your FSG?

I was thinking of blending it with FOTE & maybe coconut oil or almond oil.

Any other options since I made so much? I plan to freeze in 4 ounce containers tonight.

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Yesterday I did a DT with a formulation I made out of Sauve Naturals Tropical Coconut Conditioner. To about 1/2 cup of conditioner, I added:

Coconut butter
Coconut oil
Olive oil
Castor oil
Honey
Black strap molasses (about 1 tbsp.)

I did like it; it conditioned my hair and gave me slip for detangling, but the formula was too runny for my taste. I've been looking for a hair mask base to use instead of regular conditioner, but that seems to be harder to come by....
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:56 PM   #16
 
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I have Taken Sauve Coconut & added

Yougurt + fengureek powder

Amla powder + olive oil

Eggs+ Olive oil

Mayo

Hempseed oil+Vatkia oil

An Avocado

All with good results
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Yesterday I did a DT with a formulation I made out of Sauve Naturals Tropical Coconut Conditioner. To about 1/2 cup of conditioner, I added:

Coconut butter
Coconut oil
Olive oil
Castor oil
Honey
Black strap molasses (about 1 tbsp.)

I did like it; it conditioned my hair and gave me slip for detangling, but the formula was too runny for my taste. I've been looking for a hair mask base to use instead of regular conditioner, but that seems to be harder to come by....
For my DC I use:

Molasses (eyeball it)
White Rain Tropical Coconut
Honey (eyeball again)

It is runny but it gets the job done for me. It leaves my hair shiny and strong.
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I use... GVP conditioning balm as the base. It's really really thick. Much richer than Suave/VO5.

I don't measure:

GVP CB
Hibiscus Petal Powder
Coconut Milk
Castor Oil
Avocado Butter
Honey

And I added a tablespoon of Bragg liquid aminos for a little tiny bit of protein. My hair feels fabulous.

PS. If its too runny I'll add more conditioner
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Yeah..I'm with you ladies.. I wouldn't add the shea butter to my DT's either. I would think it would be hard to rinse it out without shampooing. And I don't shampoo after a DT.

They have that stuff called "shea butter oil" though. Obviously it's cut with oil to make it stay liquid. But that might work if someone REALLY wanted to use shea in their homemade DT. Another option is just use a conditioner that contains Shea already. Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition already has shea in it!
shea butter oil is not "cut" with an oil. It is shea olein (the liquid fraction of shea. The solid part of shea is stearin). Just like fractionated coconut oil is not "cut" coconut oil, but the liquid fraction of coconut oil
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Yeah..I'm with you ladies.. I wouldn't add the shea butter to my DT's either. I would think it would be hard to rinse it out without shampooing. And I don't shampoo after a DT.

They have that stuff called "shea butter oil" though. Obviously it's cut with oil to make it stay liquid. But that might work if someone REALLY wanted to use shea in their homemade DT. Another option is just use a conditioner that contains Shea already. Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition already has shea in it!
shea butter oil is not "cut" with an oil. It is shea olein (the liquid fraction of shea. The solid part of shea is stearin). Just like fractionated coconut oil is not "cut" coconut oil, but the liquid fraction of coconut oil

That explains why I've never seen a "list of ingredients" in shea oil. I've been eying some on Amazon.com for a while...
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