Ingredients to use with Low Porosity Hair

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I've been reading a lot about of good things about that Long-aid gel, I might have to go get some! I have both giovanni direct and castor oil as well as EVOO. I'll have to experiment with it all. How do the hot oil treatments help low-porosity hair? Haven't read much about them. I have heard good things about the steaming as well, might have to save up for a steamer! And DC works for you without heat? I've always read that people with low-porosity should use heat when they DC, but I guess it really is different for everyone!
It's all about experimentation. Try a number of things a number of different ways. Currently I don't do hot oil treatments on their own. I now mix some oils into my deep conditioner. That way I get the oil and the cream to penetrate my hair shaft & they also help minimize tangles. If I have time to sit, I will go under the dryer for 15-30 mins. If I have stuff to do, I will just DT wearing my plastic cap for an hour to several hours. For me, that works just as well.

I use castor oil over my leave in to seal it into my hair shaft in order to keep my hair moisturized longer. But like teejay said, Long Aid is the most consistent product I've found for my coarse, dry hair. Deep treating as well as using the Long Aid have been lifesavers for my hair, esp this winter (I live in the south east). I can even use the Long Aid with protein in it, because the protein content is not very high. But that's for my hair. You may want to experiment and see what works best for you.
Originally Posted by nubiana30
I too add oil to my DC. I also add honey. So w/o heat you should DC for at least 1 hr being low-porosity? I don't think I like castor oil a lot, when I was transitioning when I'd co-wash I could still feel residue of it left behind, but it might be diff now. I looked and the only one I can find is the regular one with the protein. But if it still worked for you I might have to try it. Bc the gel I was using before had protein like #3 or #4 on the ingredients.
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
If I DC w/o heat I usually leave it on as long as it takes to do my chores or run my errands. I would say the drier your hair is, the longer you should do it. One hour is not a hard and fast rule. I've actually done it for less time and it worked.Your hair should feel moisturized & soft, not mushy. But you can do the hour and if you like the results, stick with it.

Castor oil is not for everyone. It is quite heavy and thick. Since my hair is so coarse it works for me. But I mostly put it on my ends which tend to be the driest. It really seals the moisture in. You can use olive oil or the oil of your choice.
Hair type: 4a, I believe
Hair Texture: Thick, coarse, coily
Low porosity

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Nubiana30, I am going to try just using a plastic cap under a hat, when I go to the gym or on those busy days when I don't have time to sit under the heating cap.
Originally Posted by teejay
I do that too. Working out will really work up your body heat and the plastic cap will trap it in. Your hair will be super moisturized!
Hair type: 4a, I believe
Hair Texture: Thick, coarse, coily
Low porosity

~ I am beautiful no matter what they say-because I'm made in Gods image. I'm loving how He created me!~

It's all about experimentation. Try a number of things a number of different ways. Currently I don't do hot oil treatments on their own. I now mix some oils into my deep conditioner. That way I get the oil and the cream to penetrate my hair shaft & they also help minimize tangles. If I have time to sit, I will go under the dryer for 15-30 mins. If I have stuff to do, I will just DT wearing my plastic cap for an hour to several hours. For me, that works just as well.

I use castor oil over my leave in to seal it into my hair shaft in order to keep my hair moisturized longer. But like teejay said, Long Aid is the most consistent product I've found for my coarse, dry hair. Deep treating as well as using the Long Aid have been lifesavers for my hair, esp this winter (I live in the south east). I can even use the Long Aid with protein in it, because the protein content is not very high. But that's for my hair. You may want to experiment and see what works best for you.
Originally Posted by nubiana30
I too add oil to my DC. I also add honey. So w/o heat you should DC for at least 1 hr being low-porosity? I don't think I like castor oil a lot, when I was transitioning when I'd co-wash I could still feel residue of it left behind, but it might be diff now. I looked and the only one I can find is the regular one with the protein. But if it still worked for you I might have to try it. Bc the gel I was using before had protein like #3 or #4 on the ingredients.
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
If I DC w/o heat I usually leave it on as long as it takes to do my chores or run my errands. I would say the drier your hair is, the longer you should do it. One hour is not a hard and fast rule. I've actually done it for less time and it worked.Your hair should feel moisturized & soft, not mushy. But you can do the hour and if you like the results, stick with it.

Castor oil is not for everyone. It is quite heavy and thick. Since my hair is so coarse it works for me. But I mostly put it on my ends which tend to be the driest. It really seals the moisture in. You can use olive oil or the oil of your choice.
Originally Posted by nubiana30
Oh okay. I did it for an hr yesterday and I got great results. And i didn't even use heat. I think I need to do another one though bc one time wasn't enough...my hair was just so dry. I did like how soft the castor oil made my hair feel, and how well it locked in the moisture. But when I co-washed I felt like a waxy residue. Could I use EVOO on the length of my hair, and castor oil on the ends?
-Mostly 3C with some 4A.
-Currently APL.
-Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
-Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
-Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

Rotation:

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
Gel: SM Curl Souffle

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EVOO tends to be a little too greasy for me if I use it on the entire length of my strand, so I use coconut oil or jojoba on the length and seal the ends with castor or whipped shea.
Hair properties: Low porosity/fine strands Poo: CJDF, SM Moisture Retention RO Condish: Tresemme Naturals Deep Condish: JCWDT, CJHBDF LI: CJSL Moisturizer/Styler: Curls Souffle, KCCC Extras: Cassia, Bentonite & Rhassoul Clay, Shea butter mix, Cocoa butter mix, Castor oil
Yes protein can make our low porosity hair feel like straw but too much moisture makes it mushy. I found out I need an occasional pt but I have to follow it with a moisturizing treatment or I'm in trouble.
A technique that has helped me is to start with a warm rinse for a few minutes to open the cuticle then after the cowash finish up with a cool rinse to seal the cuticle. I also blot out excess water before applying product. My hair won't absorb anything when it's soaking wet.
Originally Posted by adthomas
So you do a pt dc? What kind do you use?

I also do the hot water before the co-wash and then a blast of cold water, so I usually don't have a problem getting the conditioner to soak in.

And does blotting out the excess water help speed up drying time? It takes my hair 6 hrs to dry, and it drives me nuts! Btw how often do you co-wash? Before I did the BC I co-washed everday since my hair dried fast, but if it's going to take this freaking long to dry it will not be happening everyday! Lol.
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
I use Elucense extended moisture repair treatment. And yes the bloting drastically cuts down on drying time. Creamy leave-ins increase my drying time too. Right now I'm using the Jane Carter spray leave in for my wash and goes and creamy leave ins for twist outs when I don't need my hair to dry as quickly.
Nubiana30, I am going to try just using a plastic cap under a hat, when I go to the gym or on those busy days when I don't have time to sit under the heating cap.
Originally Posted by teejay
I do that too. Working out will really work up your body heat and the plastic cap will trap it in. Your hair will be super moisturized!
Originally Posted by nubiana30
That is what I was thinking and hoping. I can't wait to try it.

I noticed that most of you with low porosity say that it takes a long time for your hair to dry. Mine dries really quick. It's like I never put water or product on it. Does anybody else experience this?
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BC 11/23/2008
Low porosity, Fine/Medium Texture, S-Curls

Co-wash: VO5 Tea Therapy
Rinse Out: Garnier Sleek 'n Shine (subject to change)
Styler: Long Aid Curl Activator

Dislikes: Proteins (except occasional Silk protein), Cones, Oils
I don't have any kind of health food store near me! It makes me so sad, I'd have to drive an hr away just to get to one. And the only ones I found online were expensive.

Would a yogurt pt dc suffice every once and a while? That worked well for me while I was transitioning.
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007

There was a thread in the 4a section about where people buy their Shea. I think a couple of people said that they purchased some from Walmart. I will look for the thread just to be sure.

As far as yogurt goes, I am not to sure about it. I thought that yogurt contained protein, not sure though. If it is working for you, I would continue. You may want to use it sparingly in case it does contain protein.
___________________________
BC 11/23/2008
Low porosity, Fine/Medium Texture, S-Curls

Co-wash: VO5 Tea Therapy
Rinse Out: Garnier Sleek 'n Shine (subject to change)
Styler: Long Aid Curl Activator

Dislikes: Proteins (except occasional Silk protein), Cones, Oils

Last edited by teejay; 12-28-2010 at 04:09 PM. Reason: shorten quote
Yes protein can make our low porosity hair feel like straw but too much moisture makes it mushy. I found out I need an occasional pt but I have to follow it with a moisturizing treatment or I'm in trouble.
A technique that has helped me is to start with a warm rinse for a few minutes to open the cuticle then after the cowash finish up with a cool rinse to seal the cuticle. I also blot out excess water before applying product. My hair won't absorb anything when it's soaking wet.
Originally Posted by adthomas
So you do a pt dc? What kind do you use?

I also do the hot water before the co-wash and then a blast of cold water, so I usually don't have a problem getting the conditioner to soak in.

And does blotting out the excess water help speed up drying time? It takes my hair 6 hrs to dry, and it drives me nuts! Btw how often do you co-wash? Before I did the BC I co-washed everday since my hair dried fast, but if it's going to take this freaking long to dry it will not be happening everyday! Lol.
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
I use Elucense extended moisture repair treatment. And yes the bloting drastically cuts down on drying time. Creamy leave-ins increase my drying time too. Right now I'm using the Jane Carter spray leave in for my wash and goes and creamy leave ins for twist outs when I don't need my hair to dry as quickly.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Oh okay. I'll have to try doing a spray leave in, bc 6 hrs to dry is ridiculous! Thanks for the tip!

@Teejay (Don't know how to quote multiple ppl lol), You can get it at walmart? Where would it be? Never heard of that. And yes the yogurt does contain protein, but some people say that even if you are sensitive to protein that you need a light pt every few mths.

And most of the posts i've read from people who have low porosity hair have said that their hair dries slowly. Are you sure you don't have high porosity hair? High porosity hair dries super fast, when I was transitioning my relaxed ends were high porosity and they dried in like an hr. You might want to double check which one you are bc high and low porosity is the exact opposite and each needs very different things.
-Mostly 3C with some 4A.
-Currently APL.
-Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
-Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
-Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

Rotation:

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
Gel: SM Curl Souffle

Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/

Last edited by m_cruz2007; 12-28-2010 at 11:42 PM.
Yes protein can make our low porosity hair feel like straw but too much moisture makes it mushy. I found out I need an occasional pt but I have to follow it with a moisturizing treatment or I'm in trouble.
A technique that has helped me is to start with a warm rinse for a few minutes to open the cuticle then after the cowash finish up with a cool rinse to seal the cuticle. I also blot out excess water before applying product. My hair won't absorb anything when it's soaking wet.
Originally Posted by adthomas
So you do a pt dc? What kind do you use?

I also do the hot water before the co-wash and then a blast of cold water, so I usually don't have a problem getting the conditioner to soak in.

And does blotting out the excess water help speed up drying time? It takes my hair 6 hrs to dry, and it drives me nuts! Btw how often do you co-wash? Before I did the BC I co-washed everday since my hair dried fast, but if it's going to take this freaking long to dry it will not be happening everyday! Lol.
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
I use Elucense extended moisture repair treatment. And yes the bloting drastically cuts down on drying time. Creamy leave-ins increase my drying time too. Right now I'm using the Jane Carter spray leave in for my wash and goes and creamy leave ins for twist outs when I don't need my hair to dry as quickly.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Oh okay! EVOO doesn't make my length greasy. It might be because your hair is fine/med. Mine is med/course so it actually works perfect for me. I've been wanting to try Coconut Oil though, can you get any on the ground? Is it lighter than EVOO? Bc if so then it might not work well for me.
-Mostly 3C with some 4A.
-Currently APL.
-Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
-Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
-Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

Rotation:

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
Gel: SM Curl Souffle

Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/
@Teejay (Don't know how to quote multiple ppl lol), You can get it at walmart? Where would it be? Never heard of that. And yes the yogurt does contain protein, but some people say that even if you are sensitive to protein that you need a light pt every few mths.

And most of the posts i've read from people who have low porosity hair have said that their hair dries slowly. Are you sure you don't have high porosity hair? High porosity hair dries super fast, when I was transitioning my relaxed ends were high porosity and they dried in like an hr. You might want to double check which one you are bc high and low porosity is the exact opposite and each needs very different things.
LOL. Yes I know how to use multiple quotes but sometimes I just don't feel like it or in this case I forgot that I wanted to comment two different people. I don't shop at Walmart. There is not one close to me but here is the link that I saw. It was in the 3c section: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...ea-butter.html

I am sure that my hair has low porosity. It doesn't float to the bottom of a glass of water and it feels slick when I run my fingers down a strand. My strands are extremely fine. Some are thinner than a piece of thread. Add that to my dyeing my hair to cover the gray, I think that may be the culprit.

eta: when I first went natural, my hair had normal porosity. I noticed a difference after I started dyeing it.
___________________________
BC 11/23/2008
Low porosity, Fine/Medium Texture, S-Curls

Co-wash: VO5 Tea Therapy
Rinse Out: Garnier Sleek 'n Shine (subject to change)
Styler: Long Aid Curl Activator

Dislikes: Proteins (except occasional Silk protein), Cones, Oils

Last edited by teejay; 12-29-2010 at 03:21 PM.
Lol, how do you do quote multiple ppl? I'm very tech savvy but I don't go on forums much. Thanks for the link! I'll have to look next time I go!

I bet it dries faster bc you dye it AND your hair is fine! My hair is thick and I think that's part of the reason it takes forever!
-Mostly 3C with some 4A.
-Currently APL.
-Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
-Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
-Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

Rotation:

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
Gel: SM Curl Souffle

Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/

So you do a pt dc? What kind do you use?

I also do the hot water before the co-wash and then a blast of cold water, so I usually don't have a problem getting the conditioner to soak in.

And does blotting out the excess water help speed up drying time? It takes my hair 6 hrs to dry, and it drives me nuts! Btw how often do you co-wash? Before I did the BC I co-washed everday since my hair dried fast, but if it's going to take this freaking long to dry it will not be happening everyday! Lol.
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
I use Elucense extended moisture repair treatment. And yes the bloting drastically cuts down on drying time. Creamy leave-ins increase my drying time too. Right now I'm using the Jane Carter spray leave in for my wash and goes and creamy leave ins for twist outs when I don't need my hair to dry as quickly.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Oh okay! EVOO doesn't make my length greasy. It might be because your hair is fine/med. Mine is med/course so it actually works perfect for me. I've been wanting to try Coconut Oil though, can you get any on the ground? Is it lighter than EVOO? Bc if so then it might not work well for me.
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
^^^ Coconut oil is lighter than EVOO, so that may not work for you... But if you're interested, you can get it on the ground at Walmart or a health store like The Vitamin Shoppe.

Also, you can mix EVOO/castor oil together to thin down the thickness of castor. I know of some medium/coarse curlies that love it!
Hair properties: Low porosity/fine strands Poo: CJDF, SM Moisture Retention RO Condish: Tresemme Naturals Deep Condish: JCWDT, CJHBDF LI: CJSL Moisturizer/Styler: Curls Souffle, KCCC Extras: Cassia, Bentonite & Rhassoul Clay, Shea butter mix, Cocoa butter mix, Castor oil

I use Elucense extended moisture repair treatment. And yes the bloting drastically cuts down on drying time. Creamy leave-ins increase my drying time too. Right now I'm using the Jane Carter spray leave in for my wash and goes and creamy leave ins for twist outs when I don't need my hair to dry as quickly.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Oh okay! EVOO doesn't make my length greasy. It might be because your hair is fine/med. Mine is med/course so it actually works perfect for me. I've been wanting to try Coconut Oil though, can you get any on the ground? Is it lighter than EVOO? Bc if so then it might not work well for me.
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
^^^ Coconut oil is lighter than EVOO, so that may not work for you... But if you're interested, you can get it on the ground at Walmart or a health store like The Vitamin Shoppe.

Also, you can mix EVOO/castor oil together to thin down the thickness of castor. I know of some medium/coarse curlies that love it!
Originally Posted by NikiD1908
Oh okay. Yeah I won't try it then. Is shea butter a heavier sealant? And that's a good idea to mix the EVOO and Castor Oil. I always hear of ppl mixing oils but I didn't think to do so. I'll have to try that!
-Mostly 3C with some 4A.
-Currently APL.
-Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
-Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
-Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

Rotation:

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
Gel: SM Curl Souffle

Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/
Oh okay! EVOO doesn't make my length greasy. It might be because your hair is fine/med. Mine is med/course so it actually works perfect for me. I've been wanting to try Coconut Oil though, can you get any on the ground? Is it lighter than EVOO? Bc if so then it might not work well for me.
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
^^^ Coconut oil is lighter than EVOO, so that may not work for you... But if you're interested, you can get it on the ground at Walmart or a health store like The Vitamin Shoppe.

Also, you can mix EVOO/castor oil together to thin down the thickness of castor. I know of some medium/coarse curlies that love it!
Originally Posted by NikiD1908
Oh okay. Yeah I won't try it then. Is shea butter a heavier sealant? And that's a good idea to mix the EVOO and Castor Oil. I always hear of ppl mixing oils but I didn't think to do so. I'll have to try that!
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
It sure is. Too heavy for me to use alone, so I whip it with oils like coconut or grapeseed or jojoba. Just make sure you get raw shea butter.
Hair properties: Low porosity/fine strands Poo: CJDF, SM Moisture Retention RO Condish: Tresemme Naturals Deep Condish: JCWDT, CJHBDF LI: CJSL Moisturizer/Styler: Curls Souffle, KCCC Extras: Cassia, Bentonite & Rhassoul Clay, Shea butter mix, Cocoa butter mix, Castor oil

^^^ Coconut oil is lighter than EVOO, so that may not work for you... But if you're interested, you can get it on the ground at Walmart or a health store like The Vitamin Shoppe.

Also, you can mix EVOO/castor oil together to thin down the thickness of castor. I know of some medium/coarse curlies that love it!
Originally Posted by NikiD1908
Oh okay. Yeah I won't try it then. Is shea butter a heavier sealant? And that's a good idea to mix the EVOO and Castor Oil. I always hear of ppl mixing oils but I didn't think to do so. I'll have to try that!
Originally Posted by m_cruz2007
It sure is. Too heavy for me to use alone, so I whip it with oils like coconut or grapeseed or jojoba. Just make sure you get raw shea butter.
Originally Posted by NikiD1908
Oh okay! I'll have to try it!
-Mostly 3C with some 4A.
-Currently APL.
-Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
-Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
-Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

Rotation:

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
Gel: SM Curl Souffle

Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/
How often should I deep condition damaged low po hair that I am trimming off month by month?
every week
4c wiry thick nappy low porosity hair
Poo: SM black soap
Rise out/Detangler:
DC/: Avocado+ oil + Honey
Spritz: Oyin J&B
Moisturizer: OH Dew
Sealant:BSP/Bask tapioca cream
every week
Originally Posted by ebonyrose31626
+1. Bump....
The issue with being low porosity is that we are ALREADY sealed. Our cuticles are so sealed down that the difficulty lies in getting the nutrients into our hair. You have to do stuff to get the shaft to open up (like using heat or baking soda, etc), otherwise it takes time for products to absorb into our hair (unlike our higher porous sisters). The latter comment is also why our hair tends to look better as the day goes on instead of right after styling. We are slow absorbers (so we easily weigh down).

Low porosity doesn't mean you're coarse. Coarse textures have higher protein content in the hair and as such dont need much or their hair will feel like straw (or hard). Actually, any overuse of protein in anyone will do that.

Now, products to use? Hmm, I wouldnt say that we are limited to what we use, I think its more HOW we use it and HOW MUCH. One can't be heavy handed when they're low porosity and its trial and error like everything else in this hair journey. You're doing the most imprt step which is learning your hair's character. After this, its just fine tuning and learning its likes and dislikes. What works for one, may not work for you.

The best place to start are the siggies. People have their hair characteristics and products they use in them.

HTH.

Edit: Glycerin is really touch and go and very dependent on the dewpoint. As a humectant in warmer times glycerin attracts moisture into the hair from the environment. In the cold season, it works against you and steals moisture from your hair.
Originally Posted by Naturalista
Enough said. Great info...

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