Hair Gel that defines 4b or 4c curls!

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I've never used the two products you asked about, but I have shingled with IC Fantasia w/Sparklites and with AfroVeda Pur Whipped Gelly (before the price increases). I had great results with both.

After I wash my hair I use a leave-in condish or moisturizer (about a dime size) and then shingle on soaking wet hair with the gel. I keep a spray bottle of water handy to keep my hair saturated while I'm shingling. **I must add that sometimes the product will turn my hair white (I think this is from using too much), but it has always gone away as my hair dried.

HTH
Originally Posted by peachfuzzz
CoSign on the IC Fantasia! It just feels way more moisturizing than the Ecostyler. I've never tried the Donna Marie Miracurling Gelly, so I will have to look into that. What I am most intrigued with is this flaxseed gel. What is that like? And where do you purchase?
Originally Posted by MyHairIsMyHobby
Botticelli Babe sells her own flaxseed gel FSG made by Botticelli Babe!

I have never tried Botticelli Babe's gel because I always make my own.

I use about 2-3 spoons of golden flaxseeds to two cups of water then I boil the seeds until the mixture thickens. Once the mixture is at my desired consistency I pour it into a pair of stockings over a bowl and then I squeeze the gel out.

Some people use a strainer to strain the gel but my gel is normally too thick for that so I prefer to use stockings. - I wear plastic gloves to squeeze the gel out because the mixture can be really hot. If you let it cool down too much before squeezing (or straining) it can be difficult to separate the gel from the seeds.

I weigh the finished mixture and then add 5% castor oil and mix thoroughly. I normally use 1% grapefruit seed extract to preserve the mixture and I keep it in the fridge. Flaxseed gel is a natural product so it can go bad if not preserved.

Here is a good article about flaxseeds Holding Firm with Flaxseed | NaturallyCurly.com

The article lists a number of products that contains flaxseed (however, I have not tried any of them)

Last edited by AlikaIssa; 01-28-2011 at 06:08 AM.
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@ Kinky Gal - I just checked out naptural85's video, and it's great YouTube - Do It Yourself: Homemade Natural Hair Gel with Flaxseeds

I like her idea about using tongs to squeeze out the gel, I normally use gloved hands and the mixture is so hot!

Last edited by AlikaIssa; 01-28-2011 at 08:07 AM. Reason: spelling
I've never used the two products you asked about, but I have shingled with IC Fantasia w/Sparklites and with AfroVeda Pur Whipped Gelly (before the price increases). I had great results with both.

After I wash my hair I use a leave-in condish or moisturizer (about a dime size) and then shingle on soaking wet hair with the gel. I keep a spray bottle of water handy to keep my hair saturated while I'm shingling. **I must add that sometimes the product will turn my hair white (I think this is from using too much), but it has always gone away as my hair dried.

HTH
Originally Posted by peachfuzzz
CoSign on the IC Fantasia! It just feels way more moisturizing than the Ecostyler. I've never tried the Donna Marie Miracurling Gelly, so I will have to look into that. What I am most intrigued with is this flaxseed gel. What is that like? And where do you purchase?
Originally Posted by MyHairIsMyHobby
Botticelli Babe sells her own flaxseed gel FSG made by Botticelli Babe!

I have never tried Botticelli Babe's gel because I always make my own.

I use about 2-3 spoons of golden flaxseeds to two cups of water then I boil the seeds until the mixture thickens. Once the mixture is at my desired consistency I pour it into a pair of stockings over a bowl and then I squeeze the gel out.

Some people use a strainer to strain the gel but my gel is normally too thick for that so I prefer to use stockings. - I wear plastic gloves to squeeze the gel out because the mixture can be really hot. If you let it cool down too much before squeezing (or straining) it can be difficult to separate the gel from the seeds.

I weigh the finished mixture and then add 5% castor oil and mix thoroughly. I normally use 1% grapefruit seed extract to preserve the mixture and I keep it in the fridge. Flaxseed gel is a natural product so it can go bad if not preserved.

Here is a good article about flaxseeds Holding Firm with Flaxseed | NaturallyCurly.com

The article lists a number of products that contains flaxseed (however, I have not tried any of them)
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
I am definitely going to try this when the weather gets warmer! Does it give the same hold as other commercial brand gels? Because my edges are stubborn! lol
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The flaxseed gel that I make gives me a medium hold, it's stronger than fantasia IC but softer than Ecostyler.

If I want a stronger hold I add 5% Agave Nectar syrup to the flaxseed gel. For more information about Agave Nectar you can check out this article Agave and Marshmallow

Do you use a headscarf for your edges? My edges used to be really rebellious but my trusted satin scarf helps to smooth them down
Curlychronicles also has a video making flaxseed gel. Naptural85 or CurlyChronicles are EXCELLENT resources.
@MyHairIsMyHobby

The flaxseed gel that I make gives me a medium hold, it's stronger than fantasia IC but softer than Ecostyler.

If I want a stronger hold I add 5% Agave Nectar syrup to the flaxseed gel. For more information about Agave Nectar you can check out this article Agave and Marshmallow

Do you use a headscarf for your edges? My edges used to be really rebellious but my trusted satin scarf helps to smooth them down
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
Typically, I do if I have enough time to scarf it before I am running out of the door, but sometimes, you know, you have those last minute plans and you need your edges to have a seat!

But what I do find is that by the time the gel loosens up mid day (this usually happens if I don't put enough gel), my edges are back at attention! So annoying!
Last relaxer:
April 1, 2010
Shampoos:
Elasta QP Creme Conditioning Shampoo
Aubrey Organics HoneySuckle Rose Moisturizing Shampoo
Conditioners:
Trader Joe's Nourish Spa
Alter Ego
Really Loving My new Ayurvedic Regimen
Currently Loving:
Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Creme and Spritz!
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The firmest holding flaxseed gel that I've made included aloe vera juice and Xanthan gum, but because these ingredients can be drying for my hair I don't normally use them in my flaxseed gel.

If you do decide to make the flaxseed gel and you want it have a very firm hold the instructions are as follows:

Ingredients

1 cup of water
10 ml of Aloe Vera Juice (the kind that has Citric Acid added to it as this produces a stronger hold)
5 ml of Agave Nectar Syrup
5 ml of Castor oil
2 Spoons of golden flaxseeds
1 gram of Xantham Gum
1 mil of Grapefruit Seed Extract (optional - mild preservative)

I normally make my products in batches of 100 ml.

It is important not to add too much Xanthan Gum. Anything more than 1% can cause flakes.


1. Bring the flaxseeds to boil, stir the mixture to ensure that the seeds do not stick to the bottom of the pan. Allow the mixture to boil until it is thick.

2. While the flaxseeds are boiling, pour the Agave Nectar syrup into a bowl then add the Xantham Gum and mix thoroughly.

3. Add the aloe vera juice to the Agave and Xanthan mixture and continue to mix thouroughly. The mixture will begin to thicken.

4. Once the flaxseed gel has reached your desired thickness, take the pan off of the heat and pour the gel through the stockings into the mixing bowl. The thicker the gel the harder it will be to get through the stockings. It is very hot so it is not advisable to use your hands but you can use a large spoon to scrape the gel out.

5. Weigh the flaxseed gel. If it is less than 79 grams add more water until it weighs 79 grams. If it is more than 79 grams take some of the mixture out.

6. Add the Agave, Aloe and Xanthan mixture to flaxseed gel and mix thoroughly.

7. Add the Castor Oil and mix thoroughly

8. If you are planning to add the Grapefruit Seed Extract add it now. Alternatively you can add 20 drops of Rosemary oil as it has antimicrobial properties.

Store the gel in the fridge or freezer. If the gel is being kept in the fridge use it within a week.
I've never used the two products you asked about, but I have shingled with IC Fantasia w/Sparklites and with AfroVeda Pur Whipped Gelly (before the price increases). I had great results with both.

After I wash my hair I use a leave-in condish or moisturizer (about a dime size) and then shingle on soaking wet hair with the gel. I keep a spray bottle of water handy to keep my hair saturated while I'm shingling. **I must add that sometimes the product will turn my hair white (I think this is from using too much), but it has always gone away as my hair dried.

HTH
Originally Posted by peachfuzzz
CoSign on the IC Fantasia! It just feels way more moisturizing than the Ecostyler. I've never tried the Donna Marie Miracurling Gelly, so I will have to look into that. What I am most intrigued with is this flaxseed gel. What is that like? And where do you purchase?
Originally Posted by MyHairIsMyHobby
Botticelli Babe sells her own flaxseed gel FSG made by Botticelli Babe!

I have never tried Botticelli Babe's gel because I always make my own.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
You dont need to buy from her to try her recipe. Before BB went to etsy, she made the recipe available here:
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...i-finally.html

Its a basic recipe that works well and you can add stuff as needed. I used to buy from her bc I was way too lazy to make my own, but to be honest, it was much more worth it to make my own-- and I made it better. LOL!
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