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Old 01-27-2011, 02:15 PM   #1
 
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HELP!!!Is what my hair needs. I have 4b hair and it's been 1 month since the bc. My hair feels hard and its greasy. I use shea butter, olive oil, and water at night and in the morning. I need something to soften and moisture my coarse hair.
I have tried many things . The conditioner I use is Hello Hydration and I use Giovanni Direct Leave in and I seal it with olive or coconut oil. I have tried Jane Carter replenishing deep conditioner but my Hello Hydration worked better. I also tried Cantu leave in which softens at first when you put it in but leaves my hair dry when product is absorbed.
ANY IDEAS LADIES????????????Because Im confused
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I use castor oil ($9.00 for 8oz and $15.00 for 32oz from whole foods). First i spritz my hair, then i pour some of the castor oil into the palm of my hand, and then i place it on sections of hair that i grab. The small amounts per section leaves my hair soft all day long. Castor oil is thick so be careful not to add too much.

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Old 01-27-2011, 05:11 PM   #3
 
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Maybe the greasy-ness is coming from the oils you're using. You really don't need to use all of those at once. (Shea butter, coconut oil, olive oil.) Just use one. What I do is after I wash my hair, I gently towel dry it to get rid of the drippies and I'm left with damp hair. Then I seal with some of my whipped shea butter and let it airdry. OMG, my hair is sooo soft after it dries. You should try it. Sometimes, less is more!
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:08 PM   #4
 
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Thanks soo much ladies Im gonna try those things and post my results
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but leaves my hair dry when product is absorbed.
You are leaving a lot of silicone on your hair, over oil and butter, then trying to clean it with a co-wash. Recipe for buildup. Try a gentle but effective shampoo to remove the build-up. Ditch the Cantu and replace it with a low- or no-silicone leave-in/styler. Dial down the shea butter and oil. A little goes a long way. Try applying the shea butter and/or oil over your conditioner, then doing a cool-water rinse.
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Old 01-28-2011, 07:22 AM   #6
 
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@Suburbanbushbabe whats is a good low- or no-silicone leave in
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Using butter/oils to seal from root-tip = a greasy hot mess on my hair. I would recommend using a creamy water-based leave in with butter, oils and humectants in the ingredient list to moisturize/style. I like using Shea Moisture DTM as a leave in on damp hair.
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@Suburbanbushbabe whats is a good low- or no-silicone leave in
I know you asked Suburbanbushbabe, but I'd like to chime in: I use Elucence Moisture Benefits Shampoo and Elucence Moisture Balance Conditioner and I love them. The Elucence MBC can be used as a leave-in and I normally put my moisturizer on top of it. I've noticed many people like Giovanni Direct Leave In Conditioner. If you need more ideas, check out Curlmart.com. Also, the stickie in the 4b forum (it's the only stickie) has great product suggestions. HTH
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HELP!!!Is what my hair needs. I have 4b hair and it's been 1 month since the bc. My hair feels hard and its greasy. I use shea butter, olive oil, and water at night and in the morning. I need something to soften and moisture my coarse hair.
I have tried many things . The conditioner I use is Hello Hydration and I use Giovanni Direct Leave in and I seal it with olive or coconut oil. I have tried Jane Carter replenishing deep conditioner but my Hello Hydration worked better. I also tried Cantu leave in which softens at first when you put it in but leaves my hair dry when product is absorbed.
ANY IDEAS LADIES????????????Because Im confused
Hi Tender,

I don't see alot of 'moisture' in your routine, just sealers. How often are you saturating your hair with water (i.e. not just spritzing)? Try to do it at least every 2-3 days, especially since you just bc'd and your hair is craving moisture. The shea and olive oil mix sounds yummy for your hair, but make sure you are sealing it over well moisturized hair and not being too heavy handed with the shea butter (it is like a pomade so it can leave your hair waxy and brittle if you use too much.) Personally, I only seal with it when I am setting my hair for hold (i.e. small twists or wash n' go underneath gel to hold the texture). Also, the Giovanni Leave-in has soybean protein which can be problematic for some, causing the hair to become stiff, frizzy, and dry. Try using a leave-in conditioner without protein (i.e. Alaffia Hair Lotion, Kinky Curly Knot Today or other recommendations in the Guide at the top of the 4b forum). Next, the Hello Hydration may or may not be a cause for your dryness because of the silicone. It works for some people, but try leaving it out and find a conditioner without cones (i.e. Suave or if you don't mind the price, the Yes to Cucumbers Conditioner which is moisturizing, also see the Guide I mentioned above).

Finally, a simple routine that I discovered 5 months after my Big chop may be helpful to you. I would re-wet my hair every 1-3 days (in between, wetting with a spritz bottle) and when I would wet it, I would not use conditioner or shampoo, just adding water and rubbing my scalp a bit, then layering more moisturizer and styler on top of my hair each day. My hair would remain moist, shiny, and soft throughout the week. The water helped re-hydrate, but also re-distribute product so I didn't get buildup. This also helped my natural oils moisturize my hair vs. adding conditioner, which would sometimes suds up and wash away the product already in my hair, leaving it drier. I would then condition wash on the 3rd day and repeat until the 5th or 6th day (usually the weekend) when I would shampoo and deep condition, then start the cycle over. Imagine that your hair is working on something and each time you add something to it, like conditioner or product, you are disturbing it. You want to disturb what your hair does naturally as little as possible, while still keeping your hair moisturized, styled, and clean. Give it a try and good luck!
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Olive oil does not work for everyone, particularly drier hair types like 4a and b. It is very acidic and just eats up my hair, no kidding. If you stick with it, make sure you use extra virgin only.

I tend to stick with products made specifically for black hair. I know the trend on this board seems to be try new things, extra pricey is better... I've gone all routes and always go back to castor oil lotion and pomade. Only styling/leave-in products I need. I use a very moisturzing shampoo like Apple Pectin from Sally's. Still hunting a good conditioner - I'm actually using the V05 Smooth and Silky line with some success though I could use more moisturization in winter.
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Shea Moisture, Vigorol Curls Curl cream, Curl Junkie Curls in a bottle and/or coffee coco curl cream are some.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:14 PM   #12
 
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Thanks ladies for all your advice.
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