SMH... Did shea moisture change there ingredients????

Okkkkk soooo. Let me just say that if what is discovered is true, I won't be a happy customer. Did Shea moisture "tweak" the ingredients a bit & add ammonium salt to the curl enhancing smoothie and some of the masques??? I was looking at the Shea moisture face book page this morning, and another noticed this and wrote this on there wall. apparently the ammonium salt isn't listed in the ingredients on target.com, but is listed on the labels of the products. I bought some of they're products when they first became available and that isn't listed on those, but I'm gonna check my new stash an see if it's in there! Can ammonium salt be harmful to hair?
so funny. I was the second person to post about it on the SM FB wall this am!

Here's the thing. Last may I purchased the deep treatment masque and ammonium salt was the 4th ingredient. I had gotten a brazilian keratin treatment and the ammonium salt washed it out, so after spending the 4 hrs to get the treatment done, it was all washed out with one overnight use of the the SM Deep treatment masque. So i was so pissed and threw out the masque, but then I saw/read that the formula had changed removing the salt, and that consistency was thicker. I checked online and saw that this to be true. I actually prefer the scent of the curl enhancing smoothie so I purchased it for a DC treatment instead because it was also listed as not having ammonium salt in it.

Needless to say, I was pretty pissed to discover that both the masque and the smoothie have ammonium salt.
Dammit. Don't tell me this, because now I'm gonna investigate until I can't investigate no' mo' . I wrote on they're facebook wall a few minutes ago, & I'll see If they answer :-/
How strange...my Smoothie (forgot when I purchased it but it is old) does not have ammonium salt.
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I don't know anything about any ingredient changes but I don't think ammonium salt it dangerous. I've added salt to conditioners before and it actually made my hair feel softer and more moisturized. But that was just table salt which may be less/more acidic than ammonium chloride.

Anyway, I think it made the conditioners make my hair even softer because my hair seems to be on the alkaline side and whenever I use products that are more acidic my hair drinks them up. Idk, just a theory. Can the hair even be alkaline? Maybe I'm making sh*t up.
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Apparently it's used as a viscosity increasing agent...
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Why is it a big deal? As long as it's not high up on the ingredient list you'll be fine. It's used as a pH balancer, like sodium hydroxide, when it is found in lower concentrations. Plus it's water soluble.
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Why is it a big deal? As long as it's not high up on the ingredient list you'll be fine. It's used as a pH balancer, like sodium hydroxide, when it is found in lower concentrations. Plus it's water soluble.
Originally Posted by moosegrl_86
Yea it's not like it's a silicone. Does your hair react differently to both formulas?
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Why is it a big deal? As long as it's not high up on the ingredient list you'll be fine. It's used as a pH balancer, like sodium hydroxide, when it is found in lower concentrations. Plus it's water soluble.
Originally Posted by moosegrl_86
I wasn't trying to make it a "big deal" just simply trying to point out the chbage and see if anyone else noticed it, while also asking if ammonium salt is harmful. My hair loves Shea moisture products, so these products have something in them my hair loves. However since it is nothing like a "cone" then I won't investigate much more because my hair hates cones. But I wanted to also know of they added the ammonium salt recently and why it isn't listed on the target website or the Shea moisture website.
I don't know anything about any ingredient changes but I don't think ammonium salt it dangerous. I've added salt to conditioners before and it actually made my hair feel softer and more moisturized. But that was just table salt which may be less/more acidic than ammonium chloride.

Anyway, I think it made the conditioners make my hair even softer because my hair seems to be on the alkaline side and whenever I use products that are more acidic my hair drinks them up. Idk, just a theory. Can the hair even be alkaline? Maybe I'm making sh*t up.
Originally Posted by CocoT
The hair is not alkaline its pretty acidic between 4 and 5.5 so the salt might be damaging to your hair if it alkaline

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Why is it a big deal? As long as it's not high up on the ingredient list you'll be fine. It's used as a pH balancer, like sodium hydroxide, when it is found in lower concentrations. Plus it's water soluble.
Originally Posted by moosegrl_86
Yea it's not like it's a silicone. Does your hair react differently to both formulas?
Originally Posted by CocoT
I'm going to have to try both smoothies and see if my hair notices the difference. If it's just a matter of one ingredient it shouldn't.
I don't know anything about any ingredient changes but I don't think ammonium salt it dangerous. I've added salt to conditioners before and it actually made my hair feel softer and more moisturized. But that was just table salt which may be less/more acidic than ammonium chloride.

Anyway, I think it made the conditioners make my hair even softer because my hair seems to be on the alkaline side and whenever I use products that are more acidic my hair drinks them up. Idk, just a theory. Can the hair even be alkaline? Maybe I'm making sh*t up.
Originally Posted by CocoT
The hair is not alkaline its pretty acidic between 4 and 5.5 so the salt might be damaging to your hair if it alkaline

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Originally Posted by darkbeautytt
Very interesting.
These companies need to get it together with these ingredient lists. Too inconsistent if you ask me. One ingredient list online, a different one in the store, a different on on the one you bring home, WTH. But ammonium salt, I don't think the ingredient itself is of serious concern unless your hair seriously dislikes salt of any form or whatever. Just pay attention to how your hair reacts to it now, like if it's different or anything. It could have been a part of the ingredients, they just neglected to put it on the list, or they could have just added it and your hair may like it or it may love it.
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So using acidic product is what u want and that why your hair drinks it up because its ph balance which also balance your hair in return

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If ur hair doesn't mind the salt I guess its fine but u have to find out how its affect ur hair

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Ammonium salt of. Nitrate is highly explosive by wikipedia so you guys might want to reconsider ur decision which means its toxic to the body

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Ammonium salt of. Nitrate is highly explosive by wikipedia so you guys might want to reconsider ur decision which means its toxic to the body

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Originally Posted by darkbeautytt
I thought ammonium salt = ammonium chloride? Anyone know?

Ammonium Chloride is an inorganic salt. In its pure form it is a clear white water-soluble crystalline material. In cosmetics and personal care products it is use in the formulation of bath products, soaps and detergents, cleansing products, hair coloring products and other hair care products including shampoos and hair conditioners.
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Ammonium salt of. Nitrate is highly explosive by wikipedia so you guys might want to reconsider ur decision which means its toxic to the body

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Originally Posted by darkbeautytt
I thought ammonium salt = ammonium chloride? Anyone know?

Ammonium Chloride is an inorganic salt. In its pure form it is a clear white water-soluble crystalline material. In cosmetics and personal care products it is use in the formulation of bath products, soaps and detergents, cleansing products, hair coloring products and other hair care products including shampoos and hair conditioners.
Originally Posted by EllyEllyOxenFree
More likely it is this elle.


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Shoot! Girl you had me thinking they added silicone or a paraben or something. Lol. Ammonium salt in minimal/moderate doses isn't all that serious. It does annoy me when formulas constantly change though, so I can see your view on that. I just hope SM doesn't start pulling a Miss Jessie's and loading their products with fillers when/if they discover how popular their products are and how much more they could make and crap. Ugh I hate that.

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