ACV wonders

These before and after photos...



Results before using a flat iron or hot curlers.



Results after using a flat iron on medium heat.

Where does the Curlaway come in? All they did was flat iron it.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that water and heat also affect H bonds. Meaning, heat temporarily undoes the H bonds and water brings them back, unless the heat was intense enough to melt the protein bonds. This is sketch. Lol
Originally Posted by Saila
I call shenanigans

they are just playin' gullible women I think
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that water and heat also affect H bonds. Meaning, heat temporarily undoes the H bonds and water brings them back, unless the heat was intense enough to melt the protein bonds. This is sketch. Lol
Originally Posted by Saila
I call shenanigans

they are just playin' gullible women I think
Originally Posted by coilynapp

Oh I see in the vitacost link it mentions using heat every time. Yeah, I call shenigans too. If you use enough heat you "heat train" your hair.

I am interested in it as a ACV/ cuticle-closing type conditioner but not for almost $20 though.
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These before and after photos...



Results before using a flat iron or hot curlers.



Results after using a flat iron on medium heat.

Where does the Curlaway come in? All they did was flat iron it.
Originally Posted by afrosheenqueen

LOLOLOLOL!!!! The last before and after set does not even make sense. The before looks like an old family photo from the 80s and the after looks like it's a wig. Where is the body? Did you crop it out? Why? On the guy with the "virgin hair" it looks like they just put some gel in his hair. I mean, did his hair not grow in that month and he came back wearing that exact same outfit?

Curlaway does a nice job of refreshing perms
Uhhhh....

With the whole H bond things, I was definitely calling shenanigans. Someone mentioned that this product claims to break the H bonds but not the S-S bonds. Like uhhhh, doesn't heat/water do that? Water is the first ingredient and they tell you to use heat. LOL. I am just not confident with my chem knowledge.

Last edited by Saila; 05-10-2011 at 07:41 PM.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that water and heat also affect H bonds. Meaning, heat temporarily undoes the H bonds and water brings them back, unless the heat was intense enough to melt the protein bonds. This is sketch. Lol
Originally Posted by Saila
Almost everything breaks H bonds in your hair - water does. So I dunno why they think they are so special...I was thinking it's just an acidic DC to smooth you hair so your hair may come out sleeker when you iron?
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that water and heat also affect H bonds. Meaning, heat temporarily undoes the H bonds and water brings them back, unless the heat was intense enough to melt the protein bonds. This is sketch. Lol
Originally Posted by Saila
Almost everything breaks H bonds in your hair - water does. So I dunno why they think they are so special...I was thinking it's just an acidic DC to smooth you hair so your hair may come out sleeker when you iron?
Originally Posted by EllyEllyOxenFree
What you're saying makes sense, but that's not what they're claiming. They're claiming the product is a "gradual relaxer" - whatever that means.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that water and heat also affect H bonds. Meaning, heat temporarily undoes the H bonds and water brings them back, unless the heat was intense enough to melt the protein bonds. This is sketch. Lol
Originally Posted by Saila
Almost everything breaks H bonds in your hair - water does. So I dunno why they think they are so special...I was thinking it's just an acidic DC to smooth you hair so your hair may come out sleeker when you iron?
Originally Posted by EllyEllyOxenFree
What you're saying makes sense, but that's not what they're claiming. They're claiming the product is a "gradual relaxer" - whatever that means.
Originally Posted by Saila
Oh I know. It's called lying to people who don't know anything about science. lol

This kind of similar to when people were ranting and bringing out the natural hair pitchforks for people using baking soda on their hair, claiming that it's like a relaxer, with a hearty pH o' 9...smh.
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Then stop. You have no busines counseling someone in a professional setting. You are not helping or lifting up anyone by alowing them to believe that the only reason they are depressed of their hair.

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Originally Posted by subbrock
I just wanted to add that the above quote is unnecessarily Rude!!!!!
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
The rudeness that I was subjected to in subbrock's post caused me a great deal of anger. Due to the fact that I was unable to release my anger in a suitable way - I developed a very serious migraine. Therefore, I will not be participating in any further discussions on this thread.
Saila:

You mentioned ACV helps close the cuticle, which is something that rinsing in cold water is supposed to do. If I use ACV, can I eliminate the cold water rinse?
I ain't thirsty. There's plenty of fish in the sea, but I don't want all of them, can I have some standards? Or do we just have to settle, for someone's who meh and will do.
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Saila:

You mentioned ACV helps close the cuticle, which is something that rinsing in cold water is supposed to do. If I use ACV, can I eliminate the cold water rinse?
Originally Posted by kayb
Sure! In my experience, ACV is more potent than cold water. It can be potentially drying though, so I wouldn't do it daily. Since it's more effective, you probably won't need to.
Awesome:

I'll make the move to ACV when I run out of shampoo.
I ain't thirsty. There's plenty of fish in the sea, but I don't want all of them, can I have some standards? Or do we just have to settle, for someone's who meh and will do.
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Awesome:

I'll make the move to ACV when I run out of shampoo.
Originally Posted by kayb
I'm not sure if ACV can be a complete substitute for shampoo, if that's what you meant. I just do an ACV rinse before my RO condish.
The rudeness that I was subjected to in subbrock's post caused me a great deal of anger. Due to the fact that I was unable to release my anger in a suitable way - I developed a very serious migraine. Therefore, I will not be participating in any further discussions on this thread.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
LOL i love this. i'm using it as my siggie.
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The rudeness that I was subjected to in subbrock's post caused me a great deal of anger. Due to the fact that I was unable to release my anger in a suitable way - I developed a very serious migraine. Therefore, I will not be participating in any further discussions on this thread.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
LOL i love this. i'm using it as my siggie.
Originally Posted by subbrock

I was discussing this matter with another lawyer and he advised me to take legal action. I was reluctant. However, the fact that you find it funny makes me realise that I need to deeply consider his advice.
I'm sorry, but what exactly would you take legal action against her for? The fact that she told you to stop handing out advice that you may not be equipped to properly give?? This seems extremely ridiculous. Like NEA said, not everyone needs to be on the forum. I think you need to strongly consider her advice, especially if you are getting migraines from a post over the INTERNET. Obviously, you did not take my advice that I gave you the other day....good lord.
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Lol!!!

That is all.

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I'm sorry, but what exactly would you take legal action against her for? The fact that she told you to stop handing out advice that you may not be equipped to properly give?? This seems extremely ridiculous. Like NEA said, not everyone needs to be on the forum. I think you need to strongly consider her advice, especially if you are getting migraines from a post over the INTERNET. Obviously, you did not take my advice that I gave you the other day....good lord.
Originally Posted by EllyEllyOxenFree

This will be my last post on the issue.

Elle, there is no need for you to worry about what I may or may not be planning because it has nothing to do with you.
The rudeness that I was subjected to in subbrock's post caused me a great deal of anger. Due to the fact that I was unable to release my anger in a suitable way - I developed a very serious migraine. Therefore, I will not be participating in any further discussions on this thread.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
LOL i love this. i'm using it as my siggie.
Originally Posted by subbrock

I was discussing this matter with another lawyer and he advised me to take legal action
. I was reluctant. However, the fact that you find it funny makes me realise that I need to deeply consider his advice.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
Well, he wouldn't be my lawyer. He's not too swift. Oh...you can tell him I said that.

What he SHOULD have told you is you need to use some self control, be a grownup, and make the choice to bow out of discussions that upset you/cause migraines. That's the best "non-legal" advice you can get. Take it.
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