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Old 05-11-2011, 11:40 AM   #121
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While it is true that threatening and considering are two different things, "considering" is usally something done without telling the other party. It is internal. When you let the other party know, it becomes a threat.
I do not agree with that.

If I had said, "Subbrock, if you do not apologise I am going to take legal action against you" - that would be a threat of legal action.
It is quite clear to whom you are addressing your comment, especially when you took great pains to tell people to whom you were NOT referring. The reasonable person's standard applies very clearly here. You continued to discuss this threat WITH your subject no less.
I think you missed the point.

There was never any doubt that I was considering legal action against Subbrock. My words to her were: "I was discussing this matter with another lawyer and he advised me to take legal action. I was reluctant. However, the fact that you find it funny makes me realise that I need to deeply consider his advice."

This makes it clear that I was speaking about Subbrock so I do not understand the relevance of the bolded part of your quote.
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:46 AM   #122
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Nobody can MAKE anyone else feel bad...

And where does the OP say she felt bad? I read this whole thread...

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You read the thread?

Did you miss when I said this to Nea:

"The OP may not have had a problem with your response. I was just very concerned about the people who may read it. I'm very senstive about things like that because I know of people who suffer from depression because of their hair."
No...I missed the part where the OP and anonymous lurkers asked you to be their mouthpiece. If anyone reading this was offended then its because they choose to be. You really have your work cut out for you if you going to dedicate so much time to defending people who may not need defense...

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The same way that you are on here sticking up for your friend(s).
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:46 AM   #123
 
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Lol! Hilarity

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Old 05-11-2011, 12:00 PM   #124
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Old 05-11-2011, 12:00 PM   #125
 
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OMG

someone needs to get out of the sandbox if they don't like sand in their hair


good grief...

Where is the OP?
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Lol@ how this thread is all over the place.

Yeahhhhhboi, Im on my smartphone!!!
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Old 05-11-2011, 12:53 PM   #127
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????

Okay guys, I'm not really sure how this all started, but I have to ask you to knock off the personal digs and go back to the original topic.
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Old 05-11-2011, 01:39 PM   #128
 
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good luck with that.
No need to wish me luck. I don't need luck because I have God, and He is the reason why I win cases. Yes, I win cases.

I refuse to belive that this person is serious. Can't be. I REBUKE it.
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Old 05-11-2011, 01:48 PM   #129
 
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These before and after photos...



Results before using a flat iron or hot curlers.



Results after using a flat iron on medium heat.

Where does the Curlaway come in? All they did was flat iron it.

LOLOLOLOL!!!! The last before and after set does not even make sense. The before looks like an old family photo from the 80s and the after looks like it's a wig. Where is the body? Did you crop it out? Why? On the guy with the "virgin hair" it looks like they just put some gel in his hair. I mean, did his hair not grow in that month and he came back wearing that exact same outfit?

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Uhhhh....

With the whole H bond things, I was definitely calling shenanigans. Someone mentioned that this product claims to break the H bonds but not the S-S bonds. Like uhhhh, doesn't heat/water do that? Water is the first ingredient and they tell you to use heat. LOL. I am just not confident with my chem knowledge.
Totally!

The 8th line down would be enough to make me RUN from that product if I was ever interested in such silliness. He look like he just put 1/2 tub or jheri curl juice on his head...
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Old 05-11-2011, 02:04 PM   #130
 
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Wow, this thread is all over the place....
Gotta say i do side with Alikalssa though: i found NEA's first response totally unnecessary (i know it was sacrasm but still, a bit mean) and subbrock totally started jumping on the poor girl.
Geez, can't people relax? I'm all for freedom of speech and all but still, no need to open the guns on the girl like that.

Now i don't comment on what was said later (i tend to run away from the jesus talks) but at least what triggered the feud.

Now shoot me too if you want lol but i just found you two a bit condescending.
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:39 AM   #132
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Guys, it would be in the best interest.of everyone to stick to the topics of hair while socializing in a civilized manner. Please review the rules of CurlTalk if you are not familiar. We'd like for this issue to fizzle. Thanks all!

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Wow, this thread is all over the place....
Gotta say i do side with Alikalssa though: i found NEA's first response totally unnecessary (i know it was sacrasm but still, a bit mean) and subbrock totally started jumping on the poor girl.
Geez, can't people relax? I'm all for freedom of speech and all but still, no need to open the guns on the girl like that.

Now i don't comment on what was said later (i tend to run away from the jesus talks) but at least what triggered the feud.

Now shoot me too if you want lol but i just found you two a bit condescending.
Wait...you came in on the end to keep this going? Girl...bye.


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Old 05-13-2011, 09:51 AM   #134
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Now i don't comment on what was said later (i tend to run away from the jesus talks) but at least what triggered the feud.
Thanks for the support.

I'm not trying to reignite the fire. I just wanted to make it clear that I did not mention Jesus. I follow the Bible and The Quran, so to me Jesus and God are two separate beings.

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Old 05-13-2011, 10:14 PM   #135
 
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Hydrogen bonds are not really bonds persay. They are attractive interactions between hydrogen and an electronegative atom, such as oxygen or nitrogen. It's why water will bead (ie, has high surface tension). So breaking a hydrogen bond is neither difficult nor permanent, as it involves giving the hydrogen something more attractive to interact with. Also, an H-H bond only occurs in the element hydrogen. Hydrogen is only capable of covalently bonding once - but it can also "hydrogen bond" to an electronegative atom such as oxygen.

Now, these hydrogen bonds are actually very important! They hold proteins in the correct configuration to function properly - if this bond is interrupted, the protein will change configuration and no longer function. I'm guessing this is what this gradual relaxer does. It interrupts some of those hydrogen bonds. I doubt this is permanent, as these bonds will likely reform, given the chance (ie. removing the heat and the chemicals in the product). I do not believe water has any great effect on protein structure - although it might in combination with heat - the head DOES change the structure, and the water may then interfere with the hydrogen bonds in the protein.

The bonds between sulfur molecules... when those are broken using a permanent relaxer, that is a more permanent change - those bonds will not naturally reform, as the two sulfurs involved in the bond are now bonded to different molecules (I'm not sure if this is the case, but a S-S bond could become a S-H H-S, which would destroy the protein, not just change it's configuration (it changes the chemical formula, not just how it's arranged, if that makes ANY sense at all!).

So, long story short, you can break hydrogen bonds without the chemicals used to break sulfur bonds. This product probably uses a chemical which enhances the effect heat has on the hydrogen bonds in the protein, giving a more effective and longer lasting result - but it's not permanent. Without using the product, the hair will most likely revert back to it's normal texture over time. The permanent relaxer changes the chemical formula of the protein - which is not reversible, even without constant use of the product, and this requires the relaxed hair being removed entirely if a natural texture is desired.

Did that make sense? I was trying to not over explain it, but I'm terrible at that.

I refuse to comment on the side track. So don't try to make me do so, I was just trying to explain some chemistry. And yes, I am trained in university chemistry. If I am incorrect about anything, someone can correct me, I don't mind.
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:57 PM   #136
 
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Thank you Dragon for your explanation!
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Hello Hello Natties!!!!

Well MY and only MY personal opinion on the ACV rinse is..... NO.
I just cannot use it on my hair again. First off, the smell was just STUCK in my hair for like 3 days lol.. My deep condition treatment is simple: Mayo, Mealted Shea butter, 1 egg and Aloe Vera Juice. plus you can store it for next time, If you make too much.
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Apply to hair for 30mins with cap over hair, rinse out. ( To get that "organic" smell out, I use my Motions CPR Leave in Conditioner. (Smells really good ) Or any leave-in really. Then I 2-strain twist my hair. Andd ohh my Lord! My hair stays soft and healthy. I ONLY do it once a week, after I shampoo my hair. So I thought I would share it with ya!!
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