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I'll be honest. I couldn't get past the first 40 seconds. I think that pieces like this set us up to be attacked by people like Satoshi, because we are so candid with exposing our insecurities. Not trying to spark a debate/discussion, that's just how I feel. I won't watch it. And I know that people already know about our insecurities, but we are constantly reminding society of how "downtrodden" we are.
Originally Posted by EllyEllyOxenFree
Because if we didn't, life would be too easy. It's just like how I told someone if that movie Precious starred a white person in that situation, no one would've watched that movie/given a crap. No one's happy unless black people are nitpicking at each other and pointing out each other's "flaws". IMO.

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I'll be honest. I couldn't get past the first 40 seconds. I think that pieces like this set us up to be attacked by people like Satoshi, because we are so candid with exposing our insecurities. Not trying to spark a debate/discussion, that's just how I feel. I won't watch it. And I know that people already know about our insecurities, but we are constantly reminding society of how "downtrodden" we are.
Originally Posted by EllyEllyOxenFree
After watching the clip I agree with Elle's comment.
I'll be honest. I couldn't get past the first 40 seconds. I think that pieces like this set us up to be attacked by people like Satoshi, because we are so candid with exposing our insecurities. Not trying to spark a debate/discussion, that's just how I feel. I won't watch it. And I know that people already know about our insecurities, but we are constantly reminding society of how "downtrodden" we are.
Originally Posted by EllyEllyOxenFree
After watching the clip I agree with Elle's comment.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
We wear our insecurities on your sleeves all the time. It not new news to them. This documentary is for us, not them.
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I'll be honest. I couldn't get past the first 40 seconds. I think that pieces like this set us up to be attacked by people like Satoshi, because we are so candid with exposing our insecurities. Not trying to spark a debate/discussion, that's just how I feel. I won't watch it. And I know that people already know about our insecurities, but we are constantly reminding society of how "downtrodden" we are.
Originally Posted by EllyEllyOxenFree
After watching the clip I agree with Elle's comment.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
We wear our insecurities on your sleeves all the time. It not new news to them. This documentary is for us, not them.
Originally Posted by greenandchic
Plus, it's time to let go of trying to "front" for the world...we can't "fake it till we make it" with this one. Sorry.

We've been struggling with this too long. We should be more ashamed of that, than how a documentary makes us look. I don't think this documentary is going to be on "their" must-watch list, anyway.
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I'll be honest. I couldn't get past the first 40 seconds. I think that pieces like this set us up to be attacked by people like Satoshi, because we are so candid with exposing our insecurities. Not trying to spark a debate/discussion, that's just how I feel. I won't watch it. And I know that people already know about our insecurities, but we are constantly reminding society of how "downtrodden" we are.
Originally Posted by EllyEllyOxenFree
After watching the clip I agree with Elle's comment.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
We wear our insecurities on your sleeves all the time. It not new news to them. This documentary is for us, not them.
Originally Posted by greenandchic
That's true. However, it's on the internet for all the world to see.

As a dark skinned woman growing up in London no one ever said anything negative about my skin colour. In fact, I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men growing up so a lot of the stuff that they are talking about in the documentary is news to me.

I've spent a lot of time in the states and before I started covering up I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men over there as well. My sisters are also dark skinned and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states. I have dark skinned friends and family members and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states.

That documentary can lead people to think that all black people in the states discriminate against all dark skinned women but that just isn't true.

After watching the clip I agree with Elle's comment.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
We wear our insecurities on your sleeves all the time. It not new news to them. This documentary is for us, not them.
Originally Posted by greenandchic
That's true. However, it's on the internet for all the world to see.

As a dark skinned woman growing up in London no one ever said anything negative about my skin colour. In fact, I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men growing up so a lot of the stuff that they are talking about in the documentary is news to me.

I've spent a lot of time in the states and before I started covering up I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men over there as well. My sisters are also dark skinned and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states. I have dark skinned friends and family members and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states.

That documentary can lead people to think that all black people in the states discriminate against all dark skinned women but that just isn't true.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
If they think that, that's their problem. Of course not all things will apply to all people.
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Racists don't need films to be racist against us. They will always find something. I don't understand the logic behind caring what they think to the point of limiting dialogue and expression.
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We wear our insecurities on your sleeves all the time. It not new news to them. This documentary is for us, not them.
Originally Posted by greenandchic
That's true. However, it's on the internet for all the world to see.

As a dark skinned woman growing up in London no one ever said anything negative about my skin colour. In fact, I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men growing up so a lot of the stuff that they are talking about in the documentary is news to me.

I've spent a lot of time in the states and before I started covering up I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men over there as well. My sisters are also dark skinned and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states. I have dark skinned friends and family members and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states.

That documentary can lead people to think that all black people in the states discriminate against all dark skinned women but that just isn't true.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
If they think that, that's their problem. Of course not all things will apply to all people.
Originally Posted by greenandchic
That's true.

It's just that if I had never spent any time in the states I would have a very negative picture of the black people over there because of that documentary.

Thank God I've been to the states several times so I know that it's not as bad as this documentary makes it seem.

After watching the clip I agree with Elle's comment.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
We wear our insecurities on your sleeves all the time. It not new news to them. This documentary is for us, not them.
Originally Posted by greenandchic
That's true. However, it's on the internet for all the world to see.

.............

That documentary can lead people to think that all black people in the states discriminate against all dark skinned women but that just isn't true.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
You can't stop people from thinking that way. They will do it regardless. People will continue to make blanket statements about black people and it won't always apply to you. They do that with other races as well. People may look at the Jersey Shore or Real Housewives of New Jersey and say all Italians are trashy white people (I don't believe that to be true at all) but that's how some people think.

I didn't personally have a negative experience with colorism either but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't care about the issue enough to want to support a documentary that brings the issue to light.

And just because you have experienced positive attention from black men doesn't mean that colorism isn't running rampant in the black community. If you were exposing your self like you imply, you support the argument of one of the women in the clip that said dark skin women are more objectified sexually.
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racists don't need films to be racist against us. They will always find something. i don't understand the logic behind caring what they think to the point of limiting dialogue and expression.
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We wear our insecurities on your sleeves all the time. It not new news to them. This documentary is for us, not them.
Originally Posted by greenandchic
That's true. However, it's on the internet for all the world to see.

As a dark skinned woman growing up in London no one ever said anything negative about my skin colour. In fact, I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men growing up so a lot of the stuff that they are talking about in the documentary is news to me.

I've spent a lot of time in the states and before I started covering up I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men over there as well. My sisters are also dark skinned and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states. I have dark skinned friends and family members and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states.

That documentary can lead people to think that all black people in the states discriminate against all dark skinned women but that just isn't true.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
You can't stop people from thinking that way. They will do it regardless. People will continue to make blanket statements about black people and it won't always apply to you. They do that with other races as well. People may look at the Jersey Shore or Real Housewives of New Jersey and say all Italians are trashy white people (I don't believe that to be true at all) but that's how some people think.

I didn't personally have a negative experience with colorism either but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't care about the issue enough to want to support a documentary that brings the issue to light.

And just because you have experienced positive attention from black men doesn't mean that colorism isn't running rampant in the black community. If you were exposing your self like you imply, you support the argument of one of the women in the clip that said dark skin women are more objectified sexually.
Originally Posted by CocoT
When I said 'covering up' I meant wearing a hijab (head scarves that muslim women wear)

I have never exposed myself. I always wear very loose clothing.

That's true. However, it's on the internet for all the world to see.

As a dark skinned woman growing up in London no one ever said anything negative about my skin colour. In fact, I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men growing up so a lot of the stuff that they are talking about in the documentary is news to me.

I've spent a lot of time in the states and before I started covering up I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men over there as well. My sisters are also dark skinned and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states. I have dark skinned friends and family members and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states.

That documentary can lead people to think that all black people in the states discriminate against all dark skinned women but that just isn't true.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
You can't stop people from thinking that way. They will do it regardless. People will continue to make blanket statements about black people and it won't always apply to you. They do that with other races as well. People may look at the Jersey Shore or Real Housewives of New Jersey and say all Italians are trashy white people (I don't believe that to be true at all) but that's how some people think.

I didn't personally have a negative experience with colorism either but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't care about the issue enough to want to support a documentary that brings the issue to light.

And just because you have experienced positive attention from black men doesn't mean that colorism isn't running rampant in the black community. If you were exposing your self like you imply, you support the argument of one of the women in the clip that said dark skin women are more objectified sexually.
Originally Posted by CocoT
When I said 'covering up' I meant wearing a hijab (head scarves that muslim women wear)

I have never exposed myself. I always wear very loose clothing.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
Oh ok. Apologies.
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You can't stop people from thinking that way. They will do it regardless. People will continue to make blanket statements about black people and it won't always apply to you. They do that with other races as well. People may look at the Jersey Shore or Real Housewives of New Jersey and say all Italians are trashy white people (I don't believe that to be true at all) but that's how some people think.

I didn't personally have a negative experience with colorism either but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't care about the issue enough to want to support a documentary that brings the issue to light.

And just because you have experienced positive attention from black men doesn't mean that colorism isn't running rampant in the black community. If you were exposing your self like you imply, you support the argument of one of the women in the clip that said dark skin women are more objectified sexually.
Originally Posted by CocoT
When I said 'covering up' I meant wearing a hijab (head scarves that muslim women wear)

I have never exposed myself. I always wear very loose clothing.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
Oh ok. Apologies.
Originally Posted by CocoT
That's ok.

I do get a bit upset when people presume that I must have done something to deserve the unwanted attention. I grew up as a tom boy. I've always worn loose clothing but men still harass me.

Anyway, I'm really upset now so I'm staying out of this thread.

When I said 'covering up' I meant wearing a hijab (head scarves that muslim women wear)

I have never exposed myself. I always wear very loose clothing.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
Oh ok. Apologies.
Originally Posted by CocoT
That's ok.

I do get a bit upset when people presume that I must have done something to deserve the unwanted attention. I grew up as a tom boy. I've always worn loose clothing but men still harass me.

Anyway, I'm really upset now so I'm staying out of this thread.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
My apologies for stepping in the conversation, but where did she imply that you did something to desire unwanted attention? I wore baggy clothes as a teen (Cross Colors ) and never wore fitted shirts but that didn't stop guys and grown a$$ men from hitting on me in very inappropriate ways. No one is blaming you at all.
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We wear our insecurities on your sleeves all the time. It not new news to them. This documentary is for us, not them.
Originally Posted by greenandchic
That's true. However, it's on the internet for all the world to see.

As a dark skinned woman growing up in London no one ever said anything negative about my skin colour. In fact, I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men growing up so a lot of the stuff that they are talking about in the documentary is news to me.

I've spent a lot of time in the states and before I started covering up I got a lot of unwanted attention from black men over there as well. My sisters are also dark skinned and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states. I have dark skinned friends and family members and they get a lot of attention from black men in the states.

That documentary can lead people to think that all black people in the states discriminate against all dark skinned women but that just isn't true.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
If they think that, that's their problem. Of course not all things will apply to all people.
Originally Posted by greenandchic
Right...and it means that they're not able to understand colorism as a whole, just like racism...which means they're not too bright.

I got sense enough to know that EVERY black person in AMERICA is not colorstruck, and that video doesn't conflict with what I already know to be true.

Those who choose to make sweeping generalizations about black people will continue to do so...business as usual. They may say, "See? I told you they're a sorry lot!", to make us think that their opinion of us can change, depending on the "cultural/societal weather", but in truth it doesn't change a darn thing.

Racists aren't logical, nor are they concerned with being factual...truth always takes a back seat to heart attitudes, that aren't based on sound thinking. There are enough examples in the world, for anybody who cares to know the truth, of capable, intelligent, head-on-straight black people...and we're still gettin' hit.

Let's focus on thinking right about ourselves, and not so much about how "they" think about us. Our struggles are what they are.
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When I said 'covering up' I meant wearing a hijab (head scarves that muslim women wear)

I have never exposed myself. I always wear very loose clothing.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
Oh ok. Apologies.
Originally Posted by CocoT
That's ok.

I do get a bit upset when people presume that I must have done something to deserve the unwanted attention. I grew up as a tom boy. I've always worn loose clothing but men still harass me.

Anyway, I'm really upset now so I'm staying out of this thread.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
No, you're not. It's time for melodrama.

Nobody said you were responsible for the unwanted attention you received from black men.
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I cried when I watched it , so disheartening, She is just a baby

I don't know how but this has to end
i feel the same way! Although chris rock documentary was very superficial, i feel i brought to light our insecurities. Although shadism/colorism is a plague within our community, I'm very uncomfortable with the thought of giving people outside our race judging and analizing us, and concluding well whatever the hell they want. i feel that the black communities flaws are constantly being highlighted as opposed to highligthing the positive changes that are taking place within our community.

I'll be honest. I couldn't get past the first 40 seconds. I think that pieces like this set us up to be attacked by people like Satoshi, because we are so candid with exposing our insecurities. Not trying to spark a debate/discussion, that's just how I feel. I won't watch it. And I know that people already know about our insecurities, but we are constantly reminding society of how "downtrodden" we are.
Originally Posted by EllyEllyOxenFree
I understand the need to highlight the positives , but there is a reason these topics come up time and time again and that is because the problem still exists .

What is the point of burying our heads in the sand ?

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