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Old 05-26-2011, 07:25 PM   #1
 
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Being a dark skinned girl, I do understand what these girls went through. With the teasing, I wanted to be lighter. I didn't want my kids to be dark skinned, not because it was ugly but because I didn't want them to go through what I went through. But knowing what I know now, that only made me stronger, made me love me more. Doing the BC, helped me realize I was beautiful; dark skin, twa, yet still beautiful =D
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That preview is powerful...and very sad. I cried. I wish we would get it together, with this thing. I don't know though...we've been dealing with this for so long. Slavery is over, and we have yet to overcome.
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I know. It's sad thing. Something as simple as light or dark. SMDH
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I'll be honest. I couldn't get past the first 40 seconds. I think that pieces like this set us up to be attacked by people like Satoshi, because we are so candid with exposing our insecurities. Not trying to spark a debate/discussion, that's just how I feel. I won't watch it. And I know that people already know about our insecurities, but we are constantly reminding society of how "downtrodden" we are.
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I know. It's sad thing. Something as simple as light or dark. SMDH
Right? It's so twisted.
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I agree. So powerful. It's so sad the way treat each other.
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I agree. So powerful. It's so sad the way treat each other.
That's why when I hear another black person ATTEMPT to get stupid, with this "shade" fixation, they get shut down. I don't allow them to make dumb declarations around my child relatives, either.
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in some ways i feel it needs to be exposed so that those that have these views can figure out why they do, like the guy who in the vid who said a dark skin girl doesn't look right with him, he wants a light skinned girl with long hair. maybe when people see that they'll see how stupid it sounds and consider changing. maybe when people see "dark" girls crying on the video they will really think about the hurt some people feel all because of something like skin tone.

i do want to add that i thought about this and extremely pale white people probably also struggle although i don't know if it's to the same extreme but some of them are willing to tan even though it's hazardous to your health. so acceptance of people regardless of skin tone isn't completely a black thing.

i can't wait to see the documentary.
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Yes, I know. and I think its good that this is being brought to people's attention. How people feel, how it's not something people can just "get over". One comment I saw on the original post was "this movie seems melodramatic. If you have high self esteem and you keep up your appearances these stupid remarks about darker people wouldn't affect you, imo"-- Yes, you can do this once you are an adult. But these people weren't light as a child then when they got older they magically became dark...they were dark as a child too and having a high self-esteem as a child....is it really that simple?

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Yes, I know. and I think its good that this is being brought to people's attention. How people feel, how it's not something people can just "get over". One comment I saw on the original post was "this movie seems melodramatic. If you have high self esteem and you keep up your appearances these stupid remarks about darker people wouldn't affect you, imo"-- Yes, you can do this once you are an adult. But these people weren't light as a child then when they got older they magically became dark...they were dark as a child too and having a high self-esteem as a child....is it really that simple?
Yes...and let me say this: EVERYBODY already knows our "secrets". There is no "exposure" that didn't start long before this video. This is nothing new...it's been going on for ages.
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What touched me particularly:

I remember as a child (5-6?) trying to rub the black off of my knees in the bathtub. No one in my family talked about light vs. dark but I just *knew* it was not better to be dark. I hope (to the point of seeming a little off) to tell my future children how much they are worth as they were made.

But then I saw the one segment with the woman talking about how much her mother had praised her looks (lips, cheekbones) but added that one caveat of "If she had been born a few shades lighter, think how much prettier she would have been." Wow.
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Yes, I know. and I think its good that this is being brought to people's attention. How people feel, how it's not something people can just "get over". One comment I saw on the original post was "this movie seems melodramatic. If you have high self esteem and you keep up your appearances these stupid remarks about darker people wouldn't affect you, imo"-- Yes, you can do this once you are an adult. But these people weren't light as a child then when they got older they magically became dark...they were dark as a child too and having a high self-esteem as a child....is it really that simple?
Yes...and let me say this: EVERYBODY already knows our "secrets". There is no "exposure" that didn't start long before this video. This is nothing new...it's been going on for ages.
Oh yea of course! But I think the docu shows the tears, the realness behind it all...hopefully HOPEFULLY people will see how it REALLY affects us.
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But then I saw the one segment with the woman talking about how much her mother had praised her looks (lips, cheekbones) but added that one caveat of "If she had been born a few shades lighter, think how much prettier she would have been." Wow.
that's when it cuts, when the disapproval comes from your own mother. which i might add was different from that lady said that if she had a daughter she didn't want her to be dark. i felt she was saying she didn't want her to be dark because she KNOWS the pain associated with being a dark woman not because she wouldn't love her.
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I never had an complex/issue with colorism growing up or even now, but it really touches my heart when I see things like this. It also frustrates me. In the clip one of the women said that white people compliment her beauty and her skin but it's sad that her own people don't see the beauty in her . I think documentaries like this need to keep coming forth and getting people's attention. We shouldn't be silent and complacent when it comes to social issues within our own community for fear that other groups will perceive us negatively. That's not a way to progress. And if they're gonna perceive us negatively, which in a lot of ways they do already, they don't need a documentary to do it.
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I never had an complex/issue with colorism growing up or even now, but it really touches my heart when I see things like this. It also frustrates me. In the clip one of the women said that white people compliment her beauty and her skin but it's sad that her own people don't see the beauty in her . I think documentaries like this need to keep coming forth and getting people's attention. We shouldn't be silent and complacent when it comes to social issues within our own community for fear that other groups will perceive us negatively. That's not a way to progress. And if they're gonna perceive us negatively, which in a lot of ways they do already, they don't need a documentary to do it.
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But then I saw the one segment with the woman talking about how much her mother had praised her looks (lips, cheekbones) but added that one caveat of "If she had been born a few shades lighter, think how much prettier she would have been." Wow.
that's when it cuts, when the disapproval comes from your own mother. which i might add was different from that lady said that if she had a daughter she didn't want her to be dark. i felt she was saying she didn't want her to be dark because she KNOWS the pain associated with being a dark woman not because she wouldn't love her.
Moms can be a mess...and it's interesting that often they totally miss how their declarations wound their children...deeply. Can folks be that...dumb? If your own momma ain't in your corner...

Why would you wanna mess up your kid's head to the point where they may NEVER get over it, or they spend a lifetime in therapy/counseling, prayer request lines, demon-casting-out services, etc. Then, they have children...and it all starts up again. Did you see the ages of the women in the video? One is older than I am, and none of them looked like "kids".

If I had a "colorist" momma/daddy, I would read them the riot act: "I love you, but if you try to hurt my children, I will protect them..even if that means they can't come around you. So, watch what you say around them."
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But then I saw the one segment with the woman talking about how much her mother had praised her looks (lips, cheekbones) but added that one caveat of "If she had been born a few shades lighter, think how much prettier she would have been." Wow.
that's when it cuts, when the disapproval comes from your own mother. which i might add was different from that lady said that if she had a daughter she didn't want her to be dark. i felt she was saying she didn't want her to be dark because she KNOWS the pain associated with being a dark woman not because she wouldn't love her.
Moms can be a mess...and it's interesting that often they totally miss how their declarations wound their children...deeply. Can folks be that...dumb? If your own momma ain't in your corner...

Why would you wanna mess up your kid's head to the point where they may NEVER get over it, or they spend a lifetime in therapy/counseling, prayer request lines, demon-casting-out services, etc. Then, they have children...and it all starts up again. Did you see the ages of the women in the video? One is older than I am, and none of them looked like "kids".

If I had a "colorist" momma/daddy, I would read them the riot act: "I love you, but if you try to hurt my children, I will protect them..even if that means they can't come around you. So, watch what you say around them."
I couldn't even imagine! My mom's mom is dark and my mom's dad is light. It is just the opposite with my dad's parents. So I guess I was lucky to grow up with neither side being biased to another.

The girl who talked about scrubbing her face to get the "dark" off...I used to do that. It's just sad.
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That preview is powerful...and very sad. I cried. I wish we would get it together, with this thing. I don't know though...we've been dealing with this for so long. Slavery is over, and we have yet to overcome.
+1. It reminds me of something that was said in front of me a couple of weeks ago. I picked my daughter and her friend up from school. They were gossiping about another friend and the boy that she likes. The friend in the car said, "He is so ugly. I don't know why she likes him. He is like skinneded (her word) and is supposed to be prettier than everybody else." I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, I thought that I misunderstood her. I asked her to repeat herself. Yep. I heard correctly. My daughter and I looked at her like:

What are we teaching our children? I have two daughters; one is light and the other is brown. They have different textures of hair. I taught them that they are both beautiful and unique, inside and out.
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I never understood all the skin tone hate. I used to lay in the sun for HOURS to try and get a dark skin tone! Now that I'm older I know that as black people we're all supposed to appreciate the features that we're born with, because unless you have the money to shell out for multiple surgeries/bleaching agents, that's what you're gonna have. No one should have to feel ashamed of how they look, and it's a damn shame that black people still feel the need to have classification systems built on skin tones.

I think I've said it before, but it's been discovered that Africans (or African Americans, I can't remember which) have a total of 33 different possible skin tones. I don't understand how of all those possibilities, a good twenty five-thirty of them are seen as horrible and people are so hung up on light skin. We as a race really need to get it together, because it's not white people making us feel this way or anyone else. It's our own people. And it's sad when your enemies are those who you'd think would be your biggest allies.

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That preview is powerful...and very sad. I cried. I wish we would get it together, with this thing. I don't know though...we've been dealing with this for so long. Slavery is over, and we have yet to overcome.
I cried too. Slavery is over, but the 'tudes are still with us. My dad grew up as a sharecropper (aka moder day slave) and he went though some of the same crap in the 20th century as our forefathers did 150+ years ago. Its going to take a long time this ends unfortunately.

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Yes, I know. and I think its good that this is being brought to people's attention. How people feel, how it's not something people can just "get over". One comment I saw on the original post was "this movie seems melodramatic. If you have high self esteem and you keep up your appearances these stupid remarks about darker people wouldn't affect you, imo"-- Yes, you can do this once you are an adult. But these people weren't light as a child then when they got older they magically became dark...they were dark as a child too and having a high self-esteem as a child....is it really that simple?

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What touched me particularly:

I remember as a child (5-6?) trying to rub the black off of my knees in the bathtub. No one in my family talked about light vs. dark but I just *knew* it was not better to be dark. I hope (to the point of seeming a little off) to tell my future children how much they are worth as they were made.

But then I saw the one segment with the woman talking about how much her mother had praised her looks (lips, cheekbones) but added that one caveat of "If she had been born a few shades lighter, think how much prettier she would have been." Wow.
I did the same thing when I was a kid in the bath tub. Its amazing how universal this is. I had the long hair I just needed my skin to comply.

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