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Old 06-19-2011, 11:58 AM   #1
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Hey this is a question for the girls with the tighter curls 3c's and 4's.

What difference in your hair did you see when you started the CG method? Were your curls more defined, looser, softer? What exactly does the CG method do for your hair? I've seen the results on looser curls, it seems to give tighter more defined curls. My curls do NOT need to get any tighter I'm a 3c. I just want to see what kind of effects people with kinkier curls have seen in their hair.

Also, in regards to washing the hair. My hair never really feels dirty I can go 3 or 4 weeks without washing if I wanted to and my hair would be fine. My scalp never feels oily but it itches if I go longer then 3 weeks without washing. However I wash almost daily for styling purposes. My hair looks better starting on fresh hair. Now that I'm starting the no-poo method I'll be co-washing daily. My question is how often should someone wash their hair (no-poo or poo) and is doing it for styling purposes a valid reason? I want the healthiest hair possible as I'm growing it out.
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:11 PM   #2
 
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I am interested in the responses to this too. I am not quite sure what the difference in my hair is since CG because I was transitioning from a mild relaxer when I started to wear my hair curly. So as my relaxer grew out, my real curls emerged and they are TIGHT!!! So, as a fellow 3c, I definitely don't need my hair any curlier either. As far as restyling, I hardly ever (sulfate-free) shampoo my hair, but I have to not so much co-wash, but completely detangle my hair, in the shower with conditioner, at least once a week in order to restyle. I WISH I could figure out a way to go longer!
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:16 PM   #3
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I am interested in the responses to this too. I am not quite sure what the difference in my hair is since CG because I was transitioning from a mild relaxer when I started to wear my hair curly. So as my relaxer grew out, my real curls emerged and they are TIGHT!!! So, as a fellow 3c, I definitely don't need my hair any curlier either. As far as restyling, I hardly ever (sulfate-free) shampoo my hair, but I have to not so much co-wash, but completely detangle my hair, in the shower with conditioner, at least once a week in order to restyle. I WISH I could figure out a way to go longer!
Yeah I know washing my hair this often isn't good but if I don't wash out the products and start over I don't like the way it looks. However (surprisingly) my hair isn't dry at all it's very healthy right now. The daily washings haven't caused any problems. I do put jajoba or coconut oil in my hair some nights and wash it out the next morning which probably helps.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:22 PM   #4
 
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I'm 'modified CG' (my modification is cowashing my densely-planted hair in braids instead of loose).

My hair is a lot softer and more moisturized, less tangles. Before CG I cowashed about weekly. Now I cowash about every 3 days and it's much better. I want to do it more frequently since the weather is warmer.

I only have coils at the nape and at the very ends & they seem more defined. Not sure if they're actually tighter or looser. There is more overall stretch and hold using the 'gel cast' Massey, CG step vs the LaFlesh Conditioner-Only method which I'd have to re-do daily.

Also I can go 3 days without redoing it CG using the Eco Olive or Eco Yellow gel for my cast. When I wake up looking crazy in the morning, I can spray it down well with water and shake then go. I love that aspect.

I haven't used shampoo regularly in a long time, even before reading CG.
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:55 PM   #5
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Hey this is a question for the girls with the tighter curls 3c's and 4's.

What difference in your hair did you see when you started the CG method? Were your curls more defined, looser, softer? What exactly does the CG method do for your hair?
Co washing makes my hair feel softer, and it stays moisturised for longer.

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I've seen the results on looser curls, it seems to give tighter more defined curls. My curls do NOT need to get any tighter I'm a 3c. I just want to see what kind of effects people with kinkier curls have seen in their hair.
I rarely wear my hair in wash and go's and I normally comb out my curls so I haven't paid much attention to whether my curls became tighter or more defined after co-washing. However, I do regularly define the curls at the end of my braids and twists and co-washing has not made a difference to how they look.


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Also, in regards to washing the hair. My hair never really feels dirty I can go 3 or 4 weeks without washing if I wanted to and my hair would be fine. My scalp never feels oily but it itches if I go longer then 3 weeks without washing. However I wash almost daily for styling purposes. My hair looks better starting on fresh hair. Now that I'm starting the no-poo method I'll be co-washing daily. My question is how often should someone wash their hair (no-poo or poo) and is doing it for styling purposes a valid reason? I want the healthiest hair possible as I'm growing it out.
As long as you are not co-washing your hair in hard water without a water filter, co-washing your hair on a daily basis should not be a problem.

However, some fine haired curlies have mentioned that they find it hard to retain length when they co-wash on a daily basis (Curly Nikki is an example Top 10 Tips for Fine-Haired Curlies | NaturallyCurly.com)

Water is one of the things that our hair needs the most but it can also weather our hair and lead to damage. For more information about the damage that water can do to our hair check out the following article by Tonya McKay Mineral Oil Versus Coconut Oil: Which is better? | NaturallyCurly.com

I have copied and pasted the relevant section of the article:

"Normally, when hair is saturated with water during the washing process, it absorbs up to 30% or more of its weight in water. This causes each strand to swell considerably, which can lead to several undesirable effects. Increasing the diameter of the hair shaft causes the outer covering of cuticle scales to lift and separate, which increases tangling and breakage. But, perhaps more subtle, is the damage done over time from many cycles of expansion and contraction.

Hair is a highly complex biomaterial composed of layers of differing materials, ranging from varying types of keratin structures to pigment molecules to fatty acids. When it is saturated with water and swells and then subsequently dries via natural or thermal means, it undergoes what is known as differential drying and differential deformation (because each separate type of molecule within the overall structure dries and deforms at differing rates). This leads to moisture-induced stress on the hair, which can lead to delamination (cuticle layer stripping off), breakage, fiber fatigue, and rupture (split ends). This whole phenomenon is referred to as hygral fatigue. So, anything that reduces hygral fatigue is great for the health of your hair in the long term."



Co-washing on a daily basis works well for many people, however, everyones hair is different so it doesn't work well for everyone.

The main thing is to be very observant. Keep checking your ends to make sure that you are not getting any splits. Check the hairs that come out when you wash your hair. If they are short hairs without a white bulb at the end that may mean that you are experiencing breakage. If that is the case then you may need to revise your routine.

Good luck with everything! I hope it all goes well for you x
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:00 PM   #6
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I couldn't remain completely CG. My hair was feeling a little limp from not using shampoo. It just didn't feel... right. I shampoo one week with diluted shampoo & cowash the next which is a good balance for my hair. I only wash once a week & if more is necessary (due to sweating too much or something) then I will cowash it then. I found that my hair reacts the same way with or without cones, but I decided to cut them out of my regimen just for peace of mind. I wasn't sure what the long term effects of using cones would be, so I let them go. My hair feels fine. CG definitely doesn't make my hair any curlier/coilier. The only thing that helps me with curl clumping is gel, but my hair is as curly as it's going to be.

Hopefully I've been somewhat helpful.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:28 PM   #7
 
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My hair is a lot healthier, and a lot more moisturized. Also, a lot less breakage and split ends. I was natural all of my life until I relaxed my hair for a year. While I was natural I was not using the CG method, and my hair was in horrible condition. Now after being natural for 15 mths, and doing the CG method, my hair has never been more healthy and moisturized! And to answer your question, whenever you feel you need to. As long as you are co-washing regularly you don't really NEED to wash your hair unless you have buildup.
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:26 PM   #8
 
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Since following the CG method my hair has been thriving. it's not so much that it loosened my curls, but it helped moisturize them enough to minimize frizz and allow the curl pattern to be more defined. My hair is also softer since it's so moisturized all the time and I'm retaining length. My hair's the longest it's ever been, even before when I had relaxed hair and even then it was pretty long. My hair is also shiner too.
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