Moisturizer vs. Leave- in conditioners

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Do I need both. When should I use both of them of one of them. Everyone says moisturizers/ leave-ins are vital for natural 4b hair but aren't they the same thing. If they aren't the same thing I need to know when to use each. Like moist. for wash-n-go & leave- in for styling? I'm really confused here. HELP!!
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Do I need both. When should I use both of them of one of them. Everyone says moisturizers/ leave-ins are vital for natural 4b hair but aren't they the same thing. If they aren't the same thing I need to know when to use each. Like moist. for wash-n-go & leave- in for styling? I'm really confused here. HELP!!
Originally Posted by 3nnyone
Leave in conditioners should contain ingredients that condition the hair. Some moisturisers contain ingredients that condition the hair but not all of them do.

It's a good idea to use a leave in conditioner immediately after you have washed and conditioned your hair. In between washes a moisturiser should be used. Some leave in conditioners can be used as daily moisturisers while others should not be used in this way because they can cause build up on the hair. It's always best to follow the directions
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Do I need both. When should I use both of them of one of them. Everyone says moisturizers/ leave-ins are vital for natural 4b hair but aren't they the same thing. If they aren't the same thing I need to know when to use each. Like moist. for wash-n-go & leave- in for styling? I'm really confused here. HELP!!
Originally Posted by 3nnyone
Leave in conditioners should contain ingredients that condition the hair. Some moisturisers contain ingredients that condition the hair but not all of them do.

It's a good idea to use a leave in conditioner immediately after you have washed and conditioned your hair. In between washes a moisturiser should be used. Some leave in conditioners can be used as daily moisturisers while others should not be used in this way because they can cause build up on the hair. It's always best to follow the directions
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
+1

Also I think it depends on the season. I ALWAYS use a leave-in after I rinse out my conditioner, but in summer I tend to be able to skip straight from leave-in to sealing with an oil/butter. In winter I need to layer- leave-in, then moisturiser, then sealant
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I always add a product to my hair after shampooing. I don't care what it's called--it just has to be creamy and moisturizing. As far as I'm concerned there isn't a big difference between leave-in conditioners and moisturizers. It seems to be all semantics...

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Detangle: Nature's Gate Hemp Nourishing Conditioner

Cleanse: SM Deep Cleansing Shampoo
Leave-In Condition: Alba Botanica Leave-In Conditioner
Moisturize: Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie
Oils/Butters: Parachute Coconut Oil, Jojoba Oil, Castor Oil, Njoi Creations Ayurvedic Hair Butter;
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I tend to use both. It may not be necessary in the summer as Noodlenaps suggests. However, I am much more comfortable with both the leave-in then moisturizer followed by oil for sealant. At the same time I haven’t had a winter to experiment with, yet. The best thing to do is try it out for a few days to see how it works then switch to see which gives you the best results. Good luck!
Thanks I needed this info as well

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What IS a moisturizer? If it's not a LI, oil/butter, I'm not sure what it is you ladies are referring to. Can you give some examples?

My hair 3B but my ends are PARCHED and will be splitting soon unless I do something ASAP.
3B curls
Medium texture
Normal elasticity
High porosity
I hear ya, but your truth is not the same for me. This parched 4a needs both, count them both to keep my hair moisturized. LOL!!!! I wash and condition my hair, apply a leave in, then apply a moisturizer, the seal and add styler product. This keeps my hair moisturized for 5 days.
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Ladies, What type of products are moisturizers n which oils do u use as,a sealer?

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As far as I know, a LI can be a moisturizer and then sealing can be from shea butter and oils.

Last edited by Inimitable; 08-02-2011 at 03:10 PM.
What IS a moisturizer? If it's not a LI, oil/butter, I'm not sure what it is you ladies are referring to. Can you give some examples?

My hair 3B but my ends are PARCHED and will be splitting soon unless I do something ASAP.
Originally Posted by bliss611
A good way to see if a product is a moisturizer is if the first ingredient is water. Water is the #1 moisturizer.

Oils & butters are used for sealing after you've applied the moisturizer. Oils & butters are not considered moisturizers, they just lock the moisture in.
What IS a moisturizer? If it's not a LI, oil/butter, I'm not sure what it is you ladies are referring to. Can you give some examples?

My hair 3B but my ends are PARCHED and will be splitting soon unless I do something ASAP.
Originally Posted by bliss611
I've found that the best moisturizer in the world for my hair is plain 'ole H2O.

I saturate my hair with whole head with distilled water every night (in winter) and every other night (in summer) then seal with my castor oil, jojoba oil mix (with some essential oil of choice thrown in for scent). I have medium to fine strands and they are low porosity so my hair can get dry, dry, dry (let me tell you). But this routine keeps my hair moisturized from week to week. I also DC my hair after my weekly shampoo without fail and use a LI after rinsing out the DC.


You might want to try doing a DC on your hair at least every other week (if weekly is too much for your particular tresses) concentrating the bulk of the conditioner on your ends. Then saturate your ends at night with water and seal with an oil of your choice before going to bed. Maybe tuck or cover your ends at night too (i.e. Put in one braid and then turn the end up and tuck back into the braid if you can picture that...). I don't know if you're debrading the ends by sleeping on a cotton pillow perhaps?

It's worth a shot; it certainly can't harm your hair...
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I typically do a leave-in after I wash my hair and I alternate between moisturizer one day and then the leave-in the next. I have to be consistent because it gets very hot where I live so moisture is an absolute must!
evalynnalfred - the reason I was confused is because my LI has water as the first ingredient. So wouldn't that make it a moisturizer?
I was just wondering what products the ladies who use LI, moisturizer, and then oil/butter to seal use for the moisturizer part.

belwillcoily - I currently sleep with a satin bonnet but will definitely try the tucked in braid idea. I

thanks!
3B curls
Medium texture
Normal elasticity
High porosity
I use both. Lately on wash day I've been mixing Trader Joe's Nourish and Spa (leave-in) with just a little Curls Creme Brule (oisturizer). Another example of a moisturizer would be Carol's daughter or Shea Moisture Hair Milk.

To seal I use oil or a curl cream that has oil in it. Right now I love Roots of Nature's Coil Cream.

Two or three days after a wash or after a hard workout, I put my head under the shower head and let it get really wet. Afterwards, I fingercomb more conditioner through my hair. In between those days I spritz with a mixture of distilled water and conditoner.
With wetting your hair every night, what do you do after that? I mean, how do you wear your hair? Do you simply put the oils/butters and then twist it EVERY NIGHT?
With wetting your hair every night, what do you do after that? I mean, how do you wear your hair? Do you simply put the oils/butters and then twist it EVERY NIGHT?
Originally Posted by KnowledgeSeeker
the nights i co-wash but don't feel like twisting, i just plan on wearing a curly fro or curly fro puff the next day. so all i do at night after my co-wash is put a leave in, mousturizer, sealer and i stretch my hair over night in about 6 pony tails. (my hair is only about 5 inches long stretched). its pretty simple once you get the hang of it. keep it as simple as possible.
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Mozeke CHB, Fleurzty CNC
CurlyKinks Coil Jam, Satin Roots
Nubian Heritage Mango butter
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I have hip length fine 3a hair with tighter 3b to c curls toward the ends. Having long hair has been a struggle for me in just about every way possible but I have stuck with it for years though I cut six inches off over a year ago and then trimmed a ton this year but I am now back into the hip range just from letting loose on some of the trimming only recently.

I think I have done just about everything under the sun. The fact is...the only thing that moisturizes my hair is mineral oil and I do not spritz and seal anything on my hair anymore between washes because trust me, anything you add to your hair is not only blocked by that first initial oiling, but is also going to cause your hair to dry further because everything builds up...EVERYTHING....and that is why if I feel like my hair is in need of moisture I wash out my previous application of mineral oil before adding on more.

I learned all this from Ktani Hair Sense Blog. She corresponds by email.

Cocamidopropyl betaine removes mineral oil...just be sure to use a harsher cleanser here and there to prevent build up from any moisturizing cleansers.

Do I need both. When should I use both of them of one of them. Everyone says moisturizers/ leave-ins are vital for natural 4b hair but aren't they the same thing. If they aren't the same thing I need to know when to use each. Like moist. for wash-n-go & leave- in for styling? I'm really confused here. HELP!!
Originally Posted by 3nnyone
Leave in conditioners should contain ingredients that condition the hair. Some moisturisers contain ingredients that condition the hair but not all of them do.

It's a good idea to use a leave in conditioner immediately after you have washed and conditioned your hair. In between washes a moisturiser should be used. Some leave in conditioners can be used as daily moisturisers while others should not be used in this way because they can cause build up on the hair. It's always best to follow the directions
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
@hiplengthcurls how can you subscribe to her email? I'm actually gonna start growing my hair out again too. It was waist length almost hip amd I chopped it to my jaw line almost a month ago. Long story haha.

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Mineral oil does NOT moisturise (= add or increase water), oils are occlusive/ anti humectants.

Be careful with Ktani, she means well but makes too many unscientific claims and gives equal credence to quality references and highly suspect 'references'. I am not the only scientist who feels this way.

Better evidence based articles and blogs include Natural Haven, Sciencey Hairblog and 'curl chemist' Tonya McKay here on NC.
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Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect

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