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TriniJaNY 08-15-2011 10:46 AM

Naturals with Fine Hair
 
I want to stress that fine hair doesn't necessarily mean that your hair is thin. You can have a lot of hair on your head, but have thin strands. How do you ladies retain length and what products are part of your routine? Thanks!

happyface 08-15-2011 10:55 AM

With thin hair, you just have to be very gentle with how you handle it. My hair is thin and I can for get about trying to do anything to it while it's dry. Snap, crackle, and pop is all you will hear. So I must detangle on wet hair loaded with conditioner. I have to twist on wet hair which leads to crazy shrinkage, but if I twist on dry hair, I'll have all kinds of broken hairs. So for my thin hair the key is being gentle and patient.

The New Black 08-15-2011 12:13 PM

Just my trusty Suave Naturals coconut for cowashing. I tried Megatek for DC the other day. We'll see what that does. It made my scalp itchy in the short term. I got the most growth when I kept my hair in twists and baggied.

Naturalfinally 08-15-2011 12:55 PM

I do my best not to stress my hair. I am using Long Aid Curl activator gel for moisture, Ecostyler gel for hold, Giovanni Direct Leave in and the other items in my Siggie. I love henna for strength and shine. My hair needs protein on a regular basis so most of my items have it. I bun a lot to retain length but it's boring. I like WnG's and I can make them last about a week but detangling after a week is not fun so I have to be careful. I have low porosity as well as thin strands so baggying is a must or I use my steamer. HTH.

danyel02 08-15-2011 02:14 PM

I have fine hair and I am always worried about breakage. Sometimes I hear hair snaping even if it is soaking wet and covered in conditioner. I am really working on detangling carefully. I find, however, that my hair still likes thick creams and stylers made for thick hair. My hair performs better with these products but I really need to be careful of buildup. I co-wash 2 a week because by Wednesday my hair looks white and chalky but feels really soft and strong. It's a catch 22!

LadyV69 08-15-2011 03:36 PM

I'm fine haired, but I also have low density, meaning I don't have all that many strands. One of the keys for me in retaining length is not manipulating my hair much. You don't necessarily have to do a protecting style to avoid manipulating your hair a lot. For me, some protective styles, like braids or twists, look horrible on me because they look extremely scalpy and I avoid buns because my edges are very thin and those would just pull and tug on them more and make them thinner. I've been doing a lot of wng's this summer, which is a low manipulation style. They last a minimum of three days for me. I just wash, slap on some KCKT or KCCC, fluff and call it a day. Although, lately I've been using the Jane Carter Curl Defining Cream which isn't as sticky nor takes as long to dry as KCCC.

shadyFLEX 08-15-2011 04:46 PM

Hi
I have fine hair and the products I use depends on what style I'm having my hair in but I find that trying not to use too much styling product and washing with sulphate free shampoo's help prevent too much build up which really helps my hair. However like a previous post when detangling I slap on loads of conditioner to minimise breakage. My DD also has super fine hair and I think the Longaid gel is great for keeping her hair moisturised. I have also recently started using kinkicoilikurli moisturising creme/ milk on her hair and so far so good. I am not a real fan of oils on my hair but my hair does react well with olive oil or avocado oil so I tend to use these or a little butter for sealing.

As for length retention its not something I really aim for so I can't really give too much advice on that but I do find that if I want to style my hair dry then large twists or plaits on wet hair with whatever products/leave-in conditioner I'm using and then air drying tends to help and also minimises tangling and therefore breakage.

Allycoils 08-15-2011 04:53 PM

I have fine hair AND it hates protein! go figure. they say most people with fine hair do best with protein laden products.

I find that my hair gets gunked up easily, so I can't do all the layering that a lot of natural ladies swear by. My twist outs always look crackish because no amount of fluffing ever makes them look right. I tend to stick to wash and go styles, although I'm experimenting a bit more now. I like to style on damp hair, as it makes my hair look bigger.

I'd love to try henna, I hear it does wonders for fine hair. My hair is fine, but it's pretty dense.

soleilmoncur 08-15-2011 05:26 PM

I have fine hair with medium density that is high porosity AND protein sensitive :glasses1:

Twists on me are going to very thin but I love them because I think they're cute and easy to maintain. They are my favorite low manipulative style and as my hair gets longer I hope to try braids.

I use Tressemme naturals for my co-wash/leave in and wash my hair with African black soap if it really needs to be cleansed. I use A LOT of butters and oils because it's the only thing that will seal moisture in my hair and my hair adores it.

It is easily broken but with some TLC fine hair can grow and retain length. You just need to know your hair and find what your hair loves and go with it.

soleilmoncur 08-15-2011 05:34 PM

And +1 on henna. It's AMAZING!!!

applesandafros 08-15-2011 05:42 PM

My hair is not only fine, but also dense. I find the most important thing for me to retain length is low manipulation and being gentle with my hair because it snaps easily. I try not to do blow outs too often because that blow dryer attachment tears the heck out of my hair. Normally I do wash and gos in the summer and spring and twistouts/braidoust in the winter. I try not to play in my hair (even though it's hard especially when m hair feels awesome).
I have no idea what kinds of products my hair likes. Still searching for my holy grails.

TriniJaNY 08-15-2011 06:17 PM

Thanks ladies for your replies. I find that I have fine hair that is dense, porous and protein sensitive. When I do twists they don't look as full as I would like so I usually use them as a night time or staying home type of ps. I wear my hair out mostly in twistouts but I do have to deal with breakage so I'm on the search for the holy grail products and alternate ps. So would you say moisture is the key to keeping breakage to a minimum?

AGrlCanMAC 08-15-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyV69 (Post 1743591)
I'm fine haired, but I also have low density, meaning I don't have all that many strands. One of the keys for me in retaining length is not manipulating my hair much. You don't necessarily have to do a protecting style to avoid manipulating your hair a lot. For me, some protective styles, like braids or twists, look horrible on me because they look extremely scalpy and I avoid buns because my edges are very thin and those would just pull and tug on them more and make them thinner. I've been doing a lot of wng's this summer, which is a low manipulation style. They last a minimum of three days for me. I just wash, slap on some KCKT or KCCC, fluff and call it a day. Although, lately I've been using the Jane Carter Curl Defining Cream which isn't as sticky nor takes as long to dry as KCCC.

THe story of my life! I have fine strands and my hair is of medium density so it is neither thick nor thin. But it still gets weighed down easily and looks scalpy when i put it in twists. I have to be very careful what I put on my hair b/c it does not like heavy, thick products so I gravitate more towards hair lotions and light oils like grapeseed and sweet almond for sealing.

I also find with fine strands, we just have to leave our hair alone and not manipulate it a lot. We don't have that workhorse hair that can withstand everything. so protective styles work for me but I've come to the conclusion that twists don't flatter me, my hair simply isn't thick and it shows when I twist it. They lack volume and lay so flat to my head, it's awful. Twists also seem to tangle my hair now :hmph: so instead I like to do flat twisted up-do's in place of this. I may get stoned for this but I also employ the use of heat some. Sometimes during the cold months, I will blow out my hair weekly to keep it from tangling and I can style as I choose. I also am not a stranger to wigs, especially in the colder months. I'll leave my hair in some french braids and wear wigs in between washes. If I wear it out, I just have to leave it alone meaning no HIFS (hand in fro syndrome).

Allycoils 08-15-2011 06:50 PM

If you're protein sensitive like me (which you said you are) then yes, moisture is the key. Low manipulation also works well for me but maybe that's because I'm lazy, lol. But my hair can take just about anything but too much product. Keeping it simple works.

Anyone else with fine hair have a severe shedding problem? I tried garlic pills but they stank.

juanab 08-15-2011 09:06 PM

I solved my severe shedding by doing a protein treatment with Spiral Solutions Repairing Protein Treatment. Not as protein heavy as Aphogee. Shedding is now minimal and I don't have hair shedding in hand while wet.

artemis513 08-15-2011 09:46 PM

I retain length by doing weekly treatments with reconstructors ("protein treatments" to me are the harsher kinds for damaged or relaxed hair). Fine hair needs protein, but because we have the tight curl pattern we have to be mindful of our moisture, too.

I know a lot of ladies say they are protein sensitive, but there are different types of proteins out there in various formulations that won't dry you out or make the hair brittle. Wheat, soy, oat, keratin, vegetable, etc. Hydrolyzed or not, amino acids, and so on. You just have to find the right formulation for your hair's needs, so please do your research before you give them up.

For my hair, I make sure the reconstructors I use have a lot of moisturizers built in. Because I have low porosity I use a plastic cap and a warm hooded dryer for 10-15 min. Some products I like are Kenra Nourishing Masque, Paul Mitchell Hair Repair, Joico K-pak and Intense Hydrator (back to back or mixed together), and L'anza Hair Repair Reconstructor.

ETA: I agree also with low manipulation being important. The last time I went natural, I never used protein and twisted my hair all the time. My hair stayed the same length for years. This time, for now I've just been doing the wash n go and retained all my length so far since I cut the relaxed ends.

lisa6 08-16-2011 12:19 AM

-I go back and forth between pre-poo detangling and detangling in the shower,but detangling prior to stepping in the shower definitely leads to less hair breakage.

-I dislike stepping in and out of the shower multiple times, so I donít do PTs. I use a protein condish as a LI.

-I learned my hair doesnít care for straight butters and oils, but does well with thicker conditioners, LIs, and stylers that contain them.

-Wash and gos are my friend, not the enemy. I do 3 days max, even though I could go longer. All other styles require more manipulation. That said, flat twist-outs and rollersets are the only stretched styles that look right when taken down (twist outs, braids outs, twist-n-curls, bantu knot outs =FAIL)



TriniJaNY 08-24-2011 08:58 PM

For those of you ladies that straighten their hair to get trims, do you find that you have less breakage when your hair is straight? When I'm curly I'm finding breakage all the time, but when it's straight the loose hairs I find are the shed ones with the white bulb on the end.

cysyca 08-25-2011 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TriniJaNY (Post 1743366)
I want to stress that fine hair doesn't necessarily mean that your hair is thin. You can have a lot of hair on your head, but have thin strands. How do you ladies retain length and what products are part of your routine? Thanks!

Yes you described my hair exactly. I wear buns & mostly wash&go's. I use KCCC, KCKT and Carefree Lite Curl Activator Gel. Anything more (Shea butter, oils, etc) and it's a hot mess.


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juanab 08-25-2011 06:57 PM

I have fine, medium density, medium/low porosity hair. I also have color, but it is growing out. I am not protein sensitive, as a matter of fact my hair seems to love it. I have been doing bi-monthly protein treatments using Spiral Solutions Repairing Protein Treatment followed by Spiral Solutions Deeply Decadent Moisturizing Treatment. What a difference this made! No more falling hairs, no hairs all over my fingers as I twist my hair. I co-wash with Garnier Fructis Body Boost Conditioner for Fine or Fly away hair. Me likey!!!! My hair looks and feels thicker and moisturized to boot. It is now my staple product. I also use Shealoe butter to seal my ends. Loving my hair now!!


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