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Yup I just purchased a blonde wig. I actually want to add done "root realness" to it though and take some of the shine out. I actual did get frustrated with my hair in Taiwan. I love wearing my hair stretched 95% of the time. However it is humid pretty much all the time. My hair already loves to shrink to ridiculously but then combine that with the humid weather...... Seriously I was so pissed.
Originally Posted by gagirl09
Don't let shrinkage get to you especially when there are no or few other Black people around.

I use to have fun sitting there and letting making my hair expand just to see people's faces. Strangely it's more fun with adults than kids, as kids are more used to things changing.
Yup I just purchased a blonde wig. I actually want to add done "root realness" to it though and take some of the shine out. I actual did get frustrated with my hair in Taiwan. I love wearing my hair stretched 95% of the time. However it is humid pretty much all the time. My hair already loves to shrink to ridiculously but then combine that with the humid weather...... Seriously I was so pissed.
Originally Posted by gagirl09
I think any hair color can look great or horrible depending on how it looks with your skin coloring. I know a lady with jet black hair who is really ghostly white.she Looks like a vampire. I think Queen latifah's hair color goes great with her skin tone. I died my hair blonde once because it was so pretty on this lady. I asked her what she used and bought it. Broke my hair off. I had to bc. Now I would get a blonde wig too.
I haven't seen this new weave trend. I always thought weaves were for celebrities and models who constantly need to change their look. I have a friend with type 4b hair who began wearing weave because the weather in Phoenix made her hair so dry it began breaking off. She was natural but wears it straight. In those cases, I can understand because the weather.is extreme. But then again, my friend always went for the.simple, straight bob that took 5 minutes to style. It looks natural. However, I am one of those people that likes hair to look like it is mine, but I realize that isn't the case for many noncelebs who wear weaves and color their hair.
Originally Posted by multicultcurly
Blaming the weather is an odd excuse to wear a weave especially when you are straightening your hair.

Models wear weaves due to the screwed up things hair stylists try on their heads in the name of fashion but if you see Naomi Campbell’s hair line you know it's not a good thing to do long term.

In regards to celebrities it's partially up to them to determine their fashion. They can quite easily wear wigs.
Originally Posted by Blueblood
My mom's hairline is way far back from wearing wigs almost every day for decades. When my alopecia areata was really severe I wore them a lot and started noticing the start of problem. I scaled back and now I'm good. But some people are going to learn the hardway that it kills your hair to wear that stuff too much when their edges disappear. I really hate that lacefront hairline. Looks ridic. I don't like to see my sisters looking clownish.
I've done blonde/brown when I was relaxed. Like a whole head situation. Shrinkage is something that after next week will be 4 years that I still can't stand it. I like my hair big. Even when I wear it curly, I like my hair the 2nd day because it's more stretched.
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I've done blonde/brown when I was relaxed. Like a whole head situation. Shrinkage is something that after next week will be 4 years that I still can't stand it. I like my hair big. Even when I wear it curly, I like my hair the 2nd day because it's more stretched.
Originally Posted by gagirl09
I prefer second day hair too. But first day is growing on me now my hair in longer and i sometimes dry my twists on large rollers. Gives a lot of stretch.

Relaxed and blonde I would be bald
I haven't seen this new weave trend. I always thought weaves were for celebrities and models who constantly need to change their look. I have a friend with type 4b hair who began wearing weave because the weather in Phoenix made her hair so dry it began breaking off. She was natural but wears it straight. In those cases, I can understand because the weather.is extreme. But then again, my friend always went for the.simple, straight bob that took 5 minutes to style. It looks natural. However, I am one of those people that likes hair to look like it is mine, but I realize that isn't the case for many noncelebs who wear weaves and color their hair.
Originally Posted by multicultcurly
Blaming the weather is an odd excuse to wear a weave especially when you are straightening your hair.

Models wear weaves due to the screwed up things hair stylists try on their heads in the name of fashion but if you see Naomi Campbell’s hair line you know it's not a good thing to do long term.

In regards to celebrities it's partially up to them to determine their fashion. They can quite easily wear wigs.
Originally Posted by Blueblood
Phoenix is a desert. It is not kind to the skin or hair. As a minimalist, I do understand how easy it is to wear a wig or put in a weave that allows to get ready in 5 minutes and be done.

In Naomi Campbell's case, I would think harsh relaxing and lacefront weaves are the cause for the loss of her hairline. Many celebs regularly wear extensions for length and thickness. But when you add harsh relaxing techniques to this, then you end up with missing hairlines. This is probably why the missing hairline is usually seen on women with type 4 hair who usually regularly relax, instead of most women who regularly wear weaves and extensions.

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I watched.paranormal witness last night online and.scared the heck out of myself. I fell asleep with the lights on.

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. Kind of weird that post came right after I said some people are going to learn the hard way about overuse or misinstallation of certain styles when their edges pack up and move away. Castor oil can help if it isn't too bad but my mom wore for like 30 years straight and there is not enough castor oil in the world to bring her edges back.
If you're referencing my post, I didn't plan it. Lol. I was responding to someone else.

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If you're referencing my post, I didn't plan it. Lol. I was responding to someone else.

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Originally Posted by multicultcurly

LOL. No, not you. The bald patch post.

I love scary movies but most of my relatives and friends won't watch them with me because they get all spooked out. They say they can't go to sleep at night after watching that but I think horror movies are funny. I'm usually the only one in the theatre laughing. Sometimes I root for the bad guy because most of the time the main characters do stupid stuff like go check the ax murderer for a pulse to see if he's dead. Remember the one movie with that little girl Carol Ann. I watched that as a kid and that's how I figured out why they don't cast "us" too much in those movies. The FIRST TIME some ghost mess went down when little girl was sliding across the floor with nothing pushing her. Those people thought it was cute but that would have been the end of the story if it had been my family. Roll the credits. My mom would have snatched me up immediately, walked out and never looked back. Let have let the bank have that mess.
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Originally Posted by gagirl09
YES! Nothing quite like that monthly gift that keeps on inflicting itself on us. Without Motrin I'd doubled-over in bed, so I think I feel you.

Well, maybe it'll just take more time before whatever is going on for everyone reveals itself. Some crazy family-related mess is brewing on my end of things right now. They want me to mediate, as usual, but I refuse to allow myself to get caught in the middle of it all so I'm taking a few steps back. They need to sort themselves out.
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I don't want to sounds lame or immature by making comments about other users on here, but I feel this is the only area on this site where I could make a discreet, venting comment. If I try to speak to people in real life about this site, they don't understand haha.

There is this one person who goes around stating that this certain leave in cond. is not an actual leave in because of the ingredients (not containing fatty alcohols and/or cationic surfactants). This said person keeps throwing in how they have a background where their advice is 'real' science. I did find an article though that was the opposite of what this person was stating. Anyway, why do some users on here have to be so...bashing, scientifically, if that makes sense. I find it great that users really know their stuff chemically to truly help out other users, but to use your background as 'you know it all,' doesn't necessarily seem fair.

Lately, I feel like I can't post anything on the regular hair care threads because I feel I will get bashed for not being completely scientifically and chemically correct with my answers. I am not a scientist, I just love to come on here and speak about curly hair.

Anyway, this was more of a vent, but I feel better now
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I don't want to sounds lame or immature by making comments about other users on here, but I feel this is the only area on this site where I could make a discreet, venting comment. If I try to speak to people in real life about this site, they don't understand haha.

There is this one person who goes around stating that this certain leave in cond. is not an actual leave in because of the ingredients (not containing fatty alcohols and/or cationic surfactants). This said person keeps throwing in how they have a background where their advice is 'real' science. I did find an article though that was the opposite of what this person was stating. Anyway, why do some users on here have to be so...bashing, scientifically, if that makes sense. I find it great that users really know their stuff chemically to truly help out other users, but to use your background as 'you know it all,' doesn't necessarily seem fair.

Lately, I feel like I can't post anything on the regular hair care threads because I feel I will get bashed for not being completely scientifically and chemically correct with my answers. I am not a scientist, I just love to come on here and speak about curly hair.

Anyway, this was more of a vent, but I feel better now
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
First, there is nothing "discreet" in an open forum. That is what pm's are for.. Anyone is free to go into any section they want. Just because there are not a lot of people who post in Say It Type 4 don't think for a minute there are not those who come in here on the regular and read the conversations. Just looks at the viewing numbers. And if they do see it SO WHAT.. People who discuss other posters in here are well aware it is being read we just don't give a care. Well, at least I don't. I don't consider it sneaky or talking behind their back either. Generally anything I say about a poster in here I have said or would gladly say to their "face" aka within the original thread so I don't have a problem with it.
I'm not sure who is intimidating you because I don't go into all sections but speak up for yourself. What are they going to do? They can't kick you out of CT.
. I don't usualy use products labeled leave in as leave ins. I use regular conditioner that is protein free. One reason is I need a lot of li and those small bottles go too fast. Matter of fact I bought As I am leave in and am considering giving it away as a Christmas gift without even trying it. I have a feeling my hair isn't going to like it. Koi "my new name for my hair" is very hit or miss about coconut oil and it is high on the list.
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I don't want to sounds lame or immature by making comments about other users on here, but I feel this is the only area on this site where I could make a discreet, venting comment. If I try to speak to people in real life about this site, they don't understand haha.

There is this one person who goes around stating that this certain leave in cond. is not an actual leave in because of the ingredients (not containing fatty alcohols and/or cationic surfactants). This said person keeps throwing in how they have a background where their advice is 'real' science. I did find an article though that was the opposite of what this person was stating. Anyway, why do some users on here have to be so...bashing, scientifically, if that makes sense. I find it great that users really know their stuff chemically to truly help out other users, but to use your background as 'you know it all,' doesn't necessarily seem fair.

Lately, I feel like I can't post anything on the regular hair care threads because I feel I will get bashed for not being completely scientifically and chemically correct with my answers. I am not a scientist, I just love to come on here and speak about curly hair.

Anyway, this was more of a vent, but I feel better now
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
Samantha, try not to feel intimidated by that poster Based on comments she's made in the past, she appears to come from a science-oriented family, chiefly medical, that likely has burdened her with high expectations. You're right: she's not always correct (I know that because of my background). And I get the sense that not being right about anything scientific panics her - nothing for you to take personally. I get why you're annoyed, but with that said, I often appreciate that poster's desire to help, and her bluntness.

When she states something you believe or know to be false, you can post a link, and underneath that link, post the contradictory statement from that source, in quotes. That kind of removes you and leaves her to refute the raw data.
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I don't want to sounds lame or immature by making comments about other users on here, but I feel this is the only area on this site where I could make a discreet, venting comment. If I try to speak to people in real life about this site, they don't understand haha.

There is this one person who goes around stating that this certain leave in cond. is not an actual leave in because of the ingredients (not containing fatty alcohols and/or cationic surfactants). This said person keeps throwing in how they have a background where their advice is 'real' science. I did find an article though that was the opposite of what this person was stating. Anyway, why do some users on here have to be so...bashing, scientifically, if that makes sense. find it great that users really know their stuff chemically to truly help out other users, but to use your background as 'you know it all,' doesn't necessarily seem fair.

Lately, I feel like I can't post anything on the regular hair care threads because I feel I will get bashed for not being completely scientifically and chemically correct with my answers. I am not a scientist, I just love to come on here and speak about curly hair.

Anyway, this was more of a vent, but I feel better now
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
First, there is nothing "discreet" in an open forum. That is what pm's are for.. Anyone is free to go into any section they want. Just because there are not a lot of people who post in Say It Type 4 don't think for a minute there are not those who come in here on the regular and read the conversations. Just looks at the viewing numbers. And if they do see it SO WHAT.. People who discuss other posters in here are well aware it is being read we just don't give a care. Well, at least I don't. I don't consider it sneaky or talking behind their back either. Generally anything I say about a poster in here I have said or would gladly say to their "face" aka within the original thread so I don't have a problem with it.
I'm not sure who is intimidating you because I don't go into all sections but speak up for yourself. What are they going to do? They can't kick you out of CT.
. I don't usualy use products labeled leave in as leave ins. I use regular conditioner that is protein free. One reason is I need a lot of li and those small bottles go too fast. Matter of fact I bought As I am leave in and am considering giving it away as a Christmas gift without even trying it. I have a feeling my hair isn't going to like it. Koi "my new name for my hair" is very hit or miss about coconut oil and it is high on the list.
Originally Posted by adthomas
No I understand that this is an open forum. I guess discreet was the wrong word used. I use this thread for venting since I don't want to start a random one in the hair section.

I am opposite I can't use a regular cond. As a leave in for some reason. But I agree that some products can be used different than what is stated.
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I don't want to sounds lame or immature by making comments about other users on here, but I feel this is the only area on this site where I could make a discreet, venting comment. If I try to speak to people in real life about this site, they don't understand haha.

There is this one person who goes around stating that this certain leave in cond. is not an actual leave in because of the ingredients (not containing fatty alcohols and/or cationic surfactants). This said person keeps throwing in how they have a background where their advice is 'real' science. I did find an article though that was the opposite of what this person was stating. Anyway, why do some users on here have to be so...bashing, scientifically, if that makes sense. I find it great that users really know their stuff chemically to truly help out other users, but to use your background as 'you know it all,' doesn't necessarily seem fair.

Lately, I feel like I can't post anything on the regular hair care threads because I feel I will get bashed for not being completely scientifically and chemically correct with my answers. I am not a scientist, I just love to come on here and speak about curly hair.

Anyway, this was more of a vent, but I feel better now
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
Samantha, try not to feel intimidated by that poster Based on comments she's made in the past, she appears to come from a science-oriented family, chiefly medical, that likely has burdened her with high expectations. You're right: she's not always correct (I know that because of my background). And I get the sense that not being right about anything scientific panics her - nothing for you to take personally. I get why you're annoyed, but with that said, I often appreciate that poster's desire to help, and her bluntness.

When she states something you believe or know to be false, you can post a link, and underneath that link, post the contradictory statement from that source, in quotes. That kind of removes you and leaves her to refute the raw data.
Originally Posted by Korkscrew

Yeah absolutely. Sounds like a plan!
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I'm not sure who is intimidating you because I don't go into all sections but speak up for yourself. What are they going to do? They can't kick you out of CT.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Ok, I wanted to say more before but I was using my phone, so didn't mean to disregard any of your points.

I completely agree, and you are right. What are people seriously going to do?! haha It made me laugh when I read that since it's so true.
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I don't want to sounds lame or immature by making comments about other users on here, but I feel this is the only area on this site where I could make a discreet, venting comment. If I try to speak to people in real life about this site, they don't understand haha.

There is this one person who goes around stating that this certain leave in cond. is not an actual leave in because of the ingredients (not containing fatty alcohols and/or cationic surfactants). This said person keeps throwing in how they have a background where their advice is 'real' science. I did find an article though that was the opposite of what this person was stating. Anyway, why do some users on here have to be so...bashing, scientifically, if that makes sense. I find it great that users really know their stuff chemically to truly help out other users, but to use your background as 'you know it all,' doesn't necessarily seem fair.

Lately, I feel like I can't post anything on the regular hair care threads because I feel I will get bashed for not being completely scientifically and chemically correct with my answers. I am not a scientist, I just love to come on here and speak about curly hair.

Anyway, this was more of a vent, but I feel better now
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
Samantha, try not to feel intimidated by that poster Based on comments she's made in the past, she appears to come from a science-oriented family, chiefly medical, that likely has burdened her with high expectations. You're right: she's not always correct (I know that because of my background). And I get the sense that not being right about anything scientific panics her - nothing for you to take personally. I get why you're annoyed, but with that said, I often appreciate that poster's desire to help, and her bluntness.

When she states something you believe or know to be false, you can post a link, and underneath that link, post the contradictory statement from that source, in quotes. That kind of removes you and leaves her to refute the raw data.
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
Same as with AdT, I was on my phone, so I didn't add as much as I wanted.

I agree with you as well. It is pretty much like citing. I am guessing you know who I am referring to. I definitely understand that the said person's background is medical. I do think it's absolutely great! If anything, it is quite helpful. I find I actually learn from some of it as well. It's just I don't want that person to think they are always right because we are humans, and we make mistakes. I don't want to nit pick the mistakes; however, I don't like when a person doesn't like to admit their mistakes or that because of their background their advice is the only advice worth giving and listening to. I find I learn a lot from so many people on here and not just on a scientific basis with curly/wavy hair. Thanks again for your advice!
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I agree with you as well. It is pretty much like citing. I am guessing you know who I am referring to. I definitely understand that the said person's background is medical. I do think it's absolutely great! If anything, it is quite helpful. I find I actually learn from some of it as well. It's just I don't want that person to think they are always right because we are humans, and we make mistakes. I don't want to nit pick the mistakes; however, I don't like when a person doesn't like to admit their mistakes or that because of their background their advice is the only advice worth giving and listening to. I find I learn a lot from so many people on here and not just on a scientific basis with curly/wavy hair. Thanks again for your advice!
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
My granddaddy was no doctor but he thought he was always right. Until the day he died even if you proved beyond a shadow of doubt he was wrong he would never admit. Some people are like that.It is what it is. I personally wouldn't waste my time being upset or debating with them or trying to get them to change. That's just me.

Medicine is NOT an exact science. There is subjectivity on several levels including how results from how scientific studies are interpreted. That's why it's important to get a second opinion because two doctors can look at the same test results and xrays and come to very different diagnoses and treatment recs. And why are people with the same medical conditions ie diabetes, high blood pressure ect prescribed different medications instead of all the same one? That's because medications don't affect people the same way because of variables. Hair product ingredients and techniques don't affect all curl the same way.

My hypothesis is "If I leave conditioner in my hair it becomes leave in conditioner."

Ok. is it conditioner? check. is it left in my hair? check. Hypothesis confirmed.

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