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Old 03-26-2012, 08:44 PM   #8661
 
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I had a hard day with race today. I cried when I read about the hunger games controversy...I just was shocked that people are that racist to throw slurs at a child. The delusion and hatred was just so apparent. Then I had issues with the sugarcoating of trayvon's image in the media...I know it ultimately should not matter but it's going to make it that much easier to believe that Martin reached for Zimmerman's gun and was going to kill him. And I went to trayvon's Facebook page...seeing our youth like that just upsets me (the posts). I feel like there is no hope for America...I probably won't leave my house for 3 days or so.

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Though I am not shocked, I think I was tripped out over the fact that so many of the people were "young". I am talking teens to early 20's. A small... albeit naive... part of me wanted to believe that racism would "soften up" somehow through the generations. I mean these white kids listen to more rap than I ever will. So many of them emulate black culture--- then you see that mess. Like really?
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its interesting because, when they read a book, if it would of said she was black or AA, they would of applied these stereotypes to the character or get mad because they don't follow the stereotype. Like someone said on that twitter thing, Thresh was a black gangster....like okay so he's a gangster because he's black?


and if someone quotes this saying "well gangsters were white" just stawp, you're missing the point.
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I had a hard day with race today. I cried when I read about the hunger games controversy...I just was shocked that people are that racist to throw slurs at a child. The delusion and hatred was just so apparent. Then I had issues with the sugarcoating of trayvon's image in the media...I know it ultimately should not matter but it's going to make it that much easier to believe that Martin reached for Zimmerman's gun and was going to kill him. And I went to trayvon's Facebook page...seeing our youth like that just upsets me (the posts). I feel like there is no hope for America...I probably won't leave my house for 3 days or so.

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Though I am not shocked, I think I was tripped out over the fact that so many of the people were "young". I am talking teens to early 20's. A small... albeit naive... part of me wanted to believe that racism would "soften up" somehow through the generations. I mean these white kids listen to more rap than I ever will. So many of them emulate black culture--- then you see that mess. Like really?
That's an interesting observation.
Reminds me of this:
Office Space - Michael Bolton Rapping - YouTube
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Well random side note sorta...the book said both were dark yet rue (the angelic one) was fairly light skinned and thresh (the brutal one) was dark. I found that...interesting.

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Well random side note sorta...the book said both were dark yet rue (the angelic one) was fairly light skinned and thresh (the brutal one) was dark. I found that...interesting.

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In the movie, Rue's district started rioting right away... I thought in the book they only started get rowdy after seeing Katniss and the old man was shot? Something about that all black district going crazy in the movie perturbed me a bit.
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Though I am not shocked, I think I was tripped out over the fact that so many of the people were "young". I am talking teens to early 20's. A small... albeit naive... part of me wanted to believe that racism would "soften up" somehow through the generations. I mean these white kids listen to more rap than I ever will. So many of them emulate black culture--- then you see that mess. Like really?
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I had a hard day with race today. I cried when I read about the hunger games controversy...I just was shocked that people are that racist to throw slurs at a child. The delusion and hatred was just so apparent. Then I had issues with the sugarcoating of trayvon's image in the media...I know it ultimately should not matter but it's going to make it that much easier to believe that Martin reached for Zimmerman's gun and was going to kill him. And I went to trayvon's Facebook page...seeing our youth like that just upsets me (the posts). I feel like there is no hope for America...I probably won't leave my house for 3 days or so.

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yeah I caught myself going into a funk too, it makes my stomach ache. Its annoying, but you just gotta put it out your mind sometimes. Handle it if you are approached with it directly, cause there is nothing we can do about it otherwise. People be crazy man. Its just skin, its not contagious, it doesnt rub off.. if you are so disgusted by it move right the f*ck along. I keep reading these racists posts people are posting on the various trayvon martin articles and pages and its like, why even comment? Why did you even bring yo ass to the website in the first place? But trying to understand racists will only make your head hurt.

I deal with it everyday at work (wealthy, beach city.. 90% of our customers are housewives). I can tell when some customers dont even want to interact with me.. Sometimes I greet them and they act like they dont even hear me LOL. I say smart sh*t like "oh, youre doing fine? great!" right in their damn face, their reactions are hilarious. Whatever they give me.. I give right back to them, & their attitude switches right up, fck all that.
My [mostly hispanic] coworkers thought I was just exaggerating about the racism until we got a white girl in our department.. then they felt it too! They pulled me aside like "I see what you mean". Its crazy, but you cant sweat it, theyre the sad case not you.

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Well random side note sorta...the book said both were dark yet rue (the angelic one) was fairly light skinned and thresh (the brutal one) was dark. I found that...interesting.

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In the movie, Rue's district started rioting right away... I thought in the book they only started get rowdy after seeing Katniss and the old man was shot? Something about that all black district going crazy in the movie perturbed me a bit.
Yep, agree. And I didn't remember the district being all black? Correct me if I'm wrong please, but I feel like I pictured that old man being shot as white? I'm fine with 12 being white...but in my head I thought 11 was more multicultural. I can't even fake though...that riot scene was badass...but it didn't make sense because if they rioted just because rue died then there would have been another uprising long ago, and the games were supposed to keep people in check no?

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Well random side note sorta...the book said both were dark yet rue (the angelic one) was fairly light skinned and thresh (the brutal one) was dark. I found that...interesting.

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In the movie, Rue's district started rioting right away... I thought in the book they only started get rowdy after seeing Katniss and the old man was shot? Something about that all black district going crazy in the movie perturbed me a bit.
Yep, agree. And I didn't remember the district being all black? Correct me if I'm wrong please, but I feel like I pictured that old man being shot as white? I'm fine with 12 being white...but in my head I thought 11 was more multicultural. I can't even fake though...that riot scene was badass...but it didn't make sense because if they rioted just because rue died then there would have been another uprising long ago, and the games were supposed to keep people in check no?

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I actually pictured Rue's whole district as black. Something about them being sort of field workers, made me think the author was likening them to southern black plantation workers. Especially with them being dark brown and all -_-

I think Katniss being a rebel and even sending them signal could have been justification for them rioting at that time. I just can't remember if that was out of sequence or not... I feel like they were calm until the old man got shot.


eta: this is some random link that describes what I thought lol. http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/District_11
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i bet they would've LOVED it if the chick from district 1 was black... not the girl from 5 though...

oh wait... nvm, they'd be mad b/c she was described as sexy...
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i bet they would've LOVED it if the chick from district 1 was black... not the girl from 5 though...

oh wait... nvm, they'd be mad b/c she was described as sexy...
LOL....yea you're probably right.
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i'm sorry, but that obvious troll on non hair cracked me up. she can't possibly expect anyone to take that seriously. she should've done a better job of hiding her trollness.
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Well random side note sorta...the book said both were dark yet rue (the angelic one) was fairly light skinned and thresh (the brutal one) was dark. I found that...interesting.

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In the movie, Rue's district started rioting right away... I thought in the book they only started get rowdy after seeing Katniss and the old man was shot? Something about that all black district going crazy in the movie perturbed me a bit.
Yep, agree. And I didn't remember the district being all black? Correct me if I'm wrong please, but I feel like I pictured that old man being shot as white? I'm fine with 12 being white...but in my head I thought 11 was more multicultural. I can't even fake though...that riot scene was badass...but it didn't make sense because if they rioted just because rue died then there would have been another uprising long ago, and the games were supposed to keep people in check no?

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It didn't describe him except for being a wizened old man. I pictured him as black, with a gray beard.

I also pictured 11 as majority black.

The riot scene was early, but I thought it may have been put in to convey the sense of rage that is in 11 as opposed to the beat down weariness seen in 12 at the reaping. I thought that maybe the movie wanted to give those who haven read the books a glance of at least one other district to show that the ones in 12 aren't the only miserable ones.

As for the nasty comments about Rue, I'm pissed but not surprised. Those young people who have more multicultural exposure than their patents and grandparents probably have racist patents and grandparents that will pass their attitudes on.

Still, the thought that a positive, lovable character like Rue can't be black makes me want to slap some dumbasses.


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Well random side note sorta...the book said both were dark yet rue (the angelic one) was fairly light skinned and thresh (the brutal one) was dark. I found that...interesting.

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In the movie, Rue's district started rioting right away... I thought in the book they only started get rowdy after seeing Katniss and the old man was shot? Something about that all black district going crazy in the movie perturbed me a bit.
katniss and haymitch were shot?! lawd, i knew i shouldve stayed off of here until i finished the series!

now i gotta start reading book 2! (thank again, btw)
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i bet they would've LOVED it if the chick from district 1 was black... not the girl from 5 though...

oh wait... nvm, they'd be mad b/c she was described as sexy...
Along those lines, people can remember that Glimmer is a green eyed blonde and that Foxface is a redhead, but they can't figure out that Rue is black? WTH?


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I honestly don't think she's a troll, I looked at her other posts.




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i thought the author was comparing district 11 to souuthern slaves too. especially when rue talks about them being whipped publicly for breaking laws...
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Well random side note sorta...the book said both were dark yet rue (the angelic one) was fairly light skinned and thresh (the brutal one) was dark. I found that...interesting.

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In the movie, Rue's district started rioting right away... I thought in the book they only started get rowdy after seeing Katniss and the old man was shot? Something about that all black district going crazy in the movie perturbed me a bit.
katniss and haymitch were shot?! lawd, i knew i shouldve stayed off of here until i finished the series!

now i gotta start reading book 2! (thank again, btw)
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That's an interesting observation.
Reminds me of this:
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What's that quote Paul Mooney said? "Everyone wants to be black, but noone wants to be a n****"?
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