Go Back   CurlTalk > Hair > 4

Like Tree15266Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-29-2012, 09:24 PM   #9001
 
*Marah*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,940
Default

Thanks ladies for your views on this.. I asked this question because Wile isn't the first white or black person say that they thought Trayvon was a thug. Some said "thug" directly.. others said "hoodlum" ..others say.. "up to no good". It stemmed from a conversation I had with some people (racially mixed group) discussing Geraldo's comments about how black males are perceived.

I guess I just get tired of certain people acting like what some black people do is a reflection on how every black person would act, is, or responds. Like the whole angry black woman thing. Just because some black women seem to fit a certain stereotype.. other black women that may just voice their opinion..suddenly they get called a ABW. I mean look how they trashed Michelle Obama with that term.. I mean Michelle Obama ? Come on.. you couldn't GET further away from the idea of someone being an ABG than her yet she got labeled that... I'm not mad at white people or anything. I'm just so frustrated with all this racial animosity. And my husband told me..that I shouldn't really be surprised at all how this thing is playing out.. because it's only revealing the truth of how things really still are in this country. How black people and white folks really aren't as "cozy" as some would like to believe and these incidents just prove that point. But he said we have this thing in America where people like to pretend.. basically smile in eachothers faces but thinking negative racial things about the other. IE: white folks not really thinking blacks are their equal or black folks thinking a white person is just waiting to do them in. Yet they drink coffee together at work, say hi to one another, talk small talk..but they don't want your kid dating theirs.
Kinky DaySha and murrrcat like this.
__________________
*Marah* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 09:36 PM   #9002
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,299
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cerendipity View Post
LESSON 4- Learn Basic Jamaican Patois- Possessive adjectives - YouTube
Cerendipity likes this.
__________________
Keenylicious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 09:41 PM   #9003
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,299
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicago Kinks View Post
I haven't encountered any white folks or non blacks who disagree with me or have indicated Martin was a thug...well Wilee something from here called him a thug but she doesn't count in my book.

Even in my office the older white women were expressing their displeasure in this whole situation. They were fussing today because his family hasn't had his facebook and email shutdown because the media only wants to make him be a gangster (their words lol).

The hispanics in my office won't touch the subject though.

vIa tHiS rAgEdY aSs pHoNe
i haven't met any white ppl like this either. sometimes i'm surprised that ppl like that actually exist.
__________________
Keenylicious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 09:42 PM   #9004
 
gagirl09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,927
Default

My day ended in poo the "raise" I was supposed to get is so low. I told my manager so this is supposed to be my career I am supposed to pay rent car note utilities with this???? And look fashionable????? I sat in the car when I got home and for a moment I really thought I could not go into the house and face animals and loneliness. Everything sucks and is stupid.


Curse you iPhone!!!
__________________
Last relaxer: Nov. 24, 2008
BC: December 19, 2009
Products: Whatever works!
gagirl09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 09:42 PM   #9005
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 427
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by *Marah* View Post
Thanks ladies for your views on this.. I asked this question because Wile isn't the first white or black person say that they thought Trayvon was a thug. Some said "thug" directly.. others said "hoodlum" ..others say.. "up to no good". It stemmed from a conversation I had with some people (racially mixed group) discussing Geraldo's comments about how black males are perceived.

I guess I just get tired of certain people acting like what some black people do is a reflection on how every black person would act, is, or responds. Like the whole angry black woman thing. Just because some black women seem to fit a certain stereotype.. other black women that may just voice their opinion..suddenly they get called a ABW. I mean look how they trashed Michelle Obama with that term.. I mean Michelle Obama ? Come on.. you couldn't GET further away from the idea of someone being an ABG than her yet she got labeled that... I'm not mad at white people or anything. I'm just so frustrated with all this racial animosity. And my husband told me..that I shouldn't really be surprised at all how this thing is playing out.. because it's only revealing the truth of how things really still are in this country. How black people and white folks really aren't as "cozy" as some would like to believe and these incidents just prove that point. But he said we have this thing in America where people like to pretend.. basically smile in eachothers faces but thinking negative racial things about the other. IE: white folks not really thinking blacks are their equal or black folks thinking a white person is just waiting to do them in. Yet they drink coffee together at work, say hi to one another, talk small talk..but they don't want your kid dating theirs.
I am also sick of the racial animosity...I mean, I am not surprised, but I am so annoyed and exhausted. I wish we in America could be more honest and upfront about race so we can actually fix racism instead of placing band-aid solutions on everything...ugh, it is like we live in the land of the (mentally) enslaved and the home of the coward.



Sent from my ADR6400L using CurlTalk App
Kinky DaySha, *Marah* and LadyV69 like this.
__________________
last relaxer 08/08/09
all natural since 7/30/10


Shrinkage happens.
forbee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 09:44 PM   #9006
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,299
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by *Marah* View Post
I have a question for you ladies (specifically the women of color here..meaning if you are black or mixed with black..sorry if that's disrespectful but I wanted it answered by a certain group).

Here is my question.. Do you find yourself getting upset, angry, holding it against, or disliking a white person (or other) that thinks black men are "thugs" ? Or do you think those feelings are somewhat understandable and justifiable to a certain extent ? Why or Why not ?

I ask this because of this Trayvon Martin thing. I know people think this boy was just a little thug headed for trouble in life with his school suspensions, the pot, the attacking the bus driver, that his book bag contained some women's jewelry and a screwdriver (which had been labeled as a burgarly tool). And I know that many people (many whites..but some blacks and others too) think young black men in particular are typically doing something criminal or borderline immoral. I do realize there is a lot of issues in the black community and it's not as cut and dry as that..but the fact of the matter is that is how a lot of "others" see black males in society.

I wish is wasn't like that but I guess I don't find myself angry anymore (yes..sad and disappointed but not angry) when white people (or others) say it. I just try to understand why they've developed this feeling and be understanding about it. I feel very odd about it all. I just wondered how other people of color (specifically black folks or mixed with black) feel about it.

This whole Trayvon Martin thing has just been very upsetting for me. Not just because it's another young black man/boy killed but because of the way the case was handled especially and the strife and mixed emotions about race and equality it causes. And now some are saying Zimmerman is a Jew..so you know I'm all jacked up.
yes. and i have a problem w/ black people who say the same thing. in fact, i have more of a problem with black people who do it.
__________________
Keenylicious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 09:49 PM   #9007
 
murrrcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 7,831
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keenylicious View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicago Kinks View Post
I haven't encountered any white folks or non blacks who disagree with me or have indicated Martin was a thug...well Wilee something from here called him a thug but she doesn't count in my book.

Even in my office the older white women were expressing their displeasure in this whole situation. They were fussing today because his family hasn't had his facebook and email shutdown because the media only wants to make him be a gangster (their words lol).

The hispanics in my office won't touch the subject though.

vIa tHiS rAgEdY aSs pHoNe
i haven't met any white ppl like this either. sometimes i'm surprised that ppl like that actually exist.
she is missing OUT.

Lol, my first impression of a white person is racist until proven innocent.
I'm not gonna lie, except my mother, doesn't mean I'm going to be rude to them, but I will not be surprised when they let something slip, it's very disappointing....its like "damn I wanted to like them", but it happens...ALL, the time to me. It hasn't happened recently to me cause I don't go out anymore, or socialize other than work, so now I don't hear it. (You would be surprised what white people let slip out of their mouths when they think black people aren't around, you know cause I don't' count, I'm "mexican" or "Hawaiian" or "oh her moms white she does't count" -girl) Except seeing people's the south will rise again shirts....what does it mean if I wear one? I want to be a slave, when the south rises? I mean why would the south rise again? I want to ask someone this...but I don't think they'll know either, cause they're stupid.

come on down to the dirrrrty south, we'll show you a good ol' time.
__________________
murrrcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 09:54 PM   #9008
 
CurlyElectra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,128
Default

I'm sorry but the media hypocrisy and bias in this case is annoying the sh*t outta me, and that's from the side I am supporting. No one was crying when they were talking about Trayvon horseback riding and volunteering. None of this has anything to do with this child being murdered!
__________________
Quote:
People should be willing to stand by the things they say. Or they shouldn't say them. If your opinion can't stand in the light of day...maybe it should stay in the dark...in your head?
- AmberBrown
CurlyElectra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 09:59 PM   #9009
 
CocoT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keenylicious View Post
Why'd I subscribe?
Cerendipity and Keenylicious like this.
__________________
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds

-Albert Einstein
Discounts:iHerb: EZA283 for $5 off!, OCO522 for $10 off first purchase | Komaza Care Referral Code: J5Q362VG
CocoT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 10:00 PM   #9010
 
murrrcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 7,831
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CurlyElectra View Post
I'm sorry but the media hypocrisy and bias in this case is annoying the sh*t outta me, and that's from the side I am supporting. No one was crying when they were talking about Trayvon horseback riding and volunteering. None of this has anything to do with this child being murdered!

Why Is annoying is that were judging (not us) on his past or what he does...THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT HE WAS MURDERED FOR NO REASON.

I don't care if the head member of the bloods/crips/national aryan brothers was getting skittles and tea and going home to watch a basketball game, and gets shot. He shouldnt have been shot!!!!

Anyway...I need to find away to leave the planet...because everyone makes me sick.
__________________
murrrcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 10:09 PM   #9011
 
murrrcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 7,831
Default

The walking dead is an excellent way to stay up late at night. I'll just start scaring myself awake. I'm watching an episode I've already seen and I'm still scared.
__________________
murrrcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 11:02 PM   #9012
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,299
Default

dang, j-lo is 42?
__________________
Keenylicious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2012, 12:35 AM   #9013
FoxyGuide
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keenylicious View Post
dang, j-lo is 42?
That's all?
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2012, 03:21 AM   #9014
 
Chicago Kinks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keenylicious View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicago Kinks View Post
I haven't encountered any white folks or non blacks who disagree with me or have indicated Martin was a thug...well Wilee something from here called him a thug but she doesn't count in my book.

Even in my office the older white women were expressing their displeasure in this whole situation. They were fussing today because his family hasn't had his facebook and email shutdown because the media only wants to make him be a gangster (their words lol).

The hispanics in my office won't touch the subject though.

vIa tHiS rAgEdY aSs pHoNe
i haven't met any white ppl like this either. sometimes i'm surprised that ppl like that actually exist.
Ohhh they exist. I ran into the most racist Cuban couple while at a restaurant down in South FL. It got ugly, the police were called and everything, all over my view of the bay being better than theirs. The man was talking big isht like he would hurt me. Calling me a lil girl and such, I didn't back down, then my husband arrived and the man fainted. He fell flat out.

Last month while in WI on business, I was called a dumb ni&&er, for the first time in my life, by a group of middle aged white women. I didn't even get upset. I laughed at them and said something like, "spell dumb ni&&er, slow ho*s."

vIa tHiS rAgEdY aSs pHoNe
__________________
**sophisticated ignorance, I type my cuss words in cursive**

Current Rotation (always changing): Curl Junkie Curl Rehab as my Leave-In, Blended Beauty Happy Nappy Styles, Entwine Argan Oil, Bobeam Shampoo Bars, QB CTDG and QB AHTB, UFD Curly Magic, B.A.S.K Anything.


http://www.platinumpj.com
http://www.facebook.com/PlatinumPJ
@PlatinumPJ
Chicago Kinks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2012, 04:24 AM   #9015
 
Tuchie09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 376
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicago Kinks View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keenylicious View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicago Kinks View Post
I haven't encountered any white folks or non blacks who disagree with me or have indicated Martin was a thug...well Wilee something from here called him a thug but she doesn't count in my book.

Even in my office the older white women were expressing their displeasure in this whole situation. They were fussing today because his family hasn't had his facebook and email shutdown because the media only wants to make him be a gangster (their words lol).

The hispanics in my office won't touch the subject though.

vIa tHiS rAgEdY aSs pHoNe
i haven't met any white ppl like this either. sometimes i'm surprised that ppl like that actually exist.
Ohhh they exist. I ran into the most racist Cuban couple while at a restaurant down in South FL. It got ugly, the police were called and everything, all over my view of the bay being better than theirs. The man was talking big isht like he would hurt me. Calling me a lil girl and such, I didn't back down, then my husband arrived and the man fainted. He fell flat out.

Last month while in WI on business, I was called a dumb ni&&er, for the first time in my life, by a group of middle aged white women. I didn't even get upset. I laughed at them and said something like, "spell dumb ni&&er, slow ho*s."

vIa tHiS rAgEdY aSs pHoNe


People don't understand why I don't lose my cool in situations like these. I think a smart a** over-their-head comment works better than getting into an argument with them. (And it helps that I have a very smart a** mouth).
Kinky DaySha and Keenylicious like this.
__________________
Curly in Okinawa, Japan where only the toughest curls can stand up to this heat and humidity.

My Arsenal:
Shampoo: Waiting on SM African Black soap shampoo to makes its way to me...
Conditioner(s): CJ Beauticurls Argan and Olive Oil, Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion
Treatments: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Deep Fix, CJ Repair Me!
Oil: Apricot Kernel Oil
Stylers: CD Loc Butter for twists, CJAF, CJCQ (haven't figured out how to work this though...)
Tuchie09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2012, 04:43 AM   #9016
 
soleilmoncur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,185
Default

Dear Zimmerman... - YouTube
__________________
3c/4aish, high porosity, fine strands,medium density cottony curls.

LOVES: (editing)

Save $10 off your order at Vitacost by clicking here for a code.


I'm not obsessed: I just LOVE my hair!!





soleilmoncur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2012, 05:28 AM   #9017
 
Chicago Kinks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuchie09 View Post



People don't understand why I don't lose my cool in situations like these. I think a smart a** over-their-head comment works better than getting into an argument with them. (And it helps that I have a very smart a** mouth).
I'm good about not losing my cool with other races but my own people, nawl, they do not get a pass on ignorance.

vIa tHiS rAgEdY aSs pHoNe
__________________
**sophisticated ignorance, I type my cuss words in cursive**

Current Rotation (always changing): Curl Junkie Curl Rehab as my Leave-In, Blended Beauty Happy Nappy Styles, Entwine Argan Oil, Bobeam Shampoo Bars, QB CTDG and QB AHTB, UFD Curly Magic, B.A.S.K Anything.


http://www.platinumpj.com
http://www.facebook.com/PlatinumPJ
@PlatinumPJ
Chicago Kinks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2012, 06:03 AM   #9018
 
murrrcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 7,831
Default

I am *dead* at the man fainted lololol
__________________
murrrcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2012, 06:04 AM   #9019
 
gagirl09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,927
Default

Um finally this return went thru I thought I was gonna have to call Torrid and be like did you even process it. They take so long doing every d-mn thing!!!


Curse you iPhone!!!
__________________
Last relaxer: Nov. 24, 2008
BC: December 19, 2009
Products: Whatever works!
gagirl09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2012, 06:06 AM   #9020
 
Chicago Kinks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,745
Default

The North Korean's rocket has been moved to the launch pad. 2 short range rockets have been launched.
Lawrd, why does this lil guy feel the need to be seen as important.

vIa tHiS rAgEdY aSs pHoNe
Cerendipity likes this.
__________________
**sophisticated ignorance, I type my cuss words in cursive**

Current Rotation (always changing): Curl Junkie Curl Rehab as my Leave-In, Blended Beauty Happy Nappy Styles, Entwine Argan Oil, Bobeam Shampoo Bars, QB CTDG and QB AHTB, UFD Curly Magic, B.A.S.K Anything.


http://www.platinumpj.com
http://www.facebook.com/PlatinumPJ
@PlatinumPJ
Chicago Kinks is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Trending Topics[-]hide

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2011 NaturallyCurly.com