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Marah
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Similar things have happened to me basically all of my academic career. When I got into an exclusive magnet high school in my city, when I got into a 5-week scholars program, when I got a scholarship to college...and many others. Each time there was someone around to basically say that I only got it because of my race when I KNOW that I worked hard to get where I am.

Another time one of my friends was complaining that she didn't into a certain pre-med scholars program because they needed to pick Indians to help with diversity. I still think about her comment all the time. She didn't for one second stop to think that maybe all those "Indians" that were picked for the program were just better applicants than she was. There was no way that the reason they were picked was that they were better, in her opinion. Ughhh

Maybe it's a coping mechanism to deal with their own rejection????
But then that's just an excuse...
Originally Posted by greenjumper
Yep, people use the aff action accusation as an excuse for being an underachieving slacker. Whenever confronted with that bullisht, I laughed and kept it moving. See, because no matter what they say to you, you did it (got in, got the scholly, etc.) and they didn't. Ha!

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Originally Posted by Kilajo
I don't think they have to be an underachieving slacker - and that's the worst thing about it. In my situation, these people were in my AP classes, with similar grades, and were supposed to be smart enough to "know better." They knew me, they knew my achievements, they knew how hard I studied. Hell, we were all in NHS together and part of student council, and shared several EC activities. That was the part that hurt me - this wasn't some ignorant redneck complaining about black folks achieving - these were my peers since I was seven years old, and all my life, I had considered us equal. And then, at the end of the day, I was just another ni**er. Reality check. Point - society.

But yes, @greenjumper, it's certainly a coping mechanism - but a racist one.

Oh and the WORST part (for me) is that growing up my father would always tell me to watch myself around white people (him being a "token" in his field, to this day) and that they will smile in your face and stab you in the back, and I'd reply, "Daddy, it's not the 50s anymore. My friends aren't like that - we're all just friends, it doesn't matter what color I am, it's 2000." (I had a diverse group of HS friends too) HAH I was so damn wrong! Lesson learned.
Originally Posted by CurlyElectra
Nope, they aren't all slackers but it felt good to say. This was my way of pissing those racists off back then. You should have seen the extent they went to prove they deserved it more than me.

Anyway I grew up in an all white environment in the 70s and 80s. I had the same teachers and access to education as my white peers. I took advantage of it and opportunities came my way. I'll never apologize for my successes. And if some random racist wants to color it affirmative action...oh, well, it's no skin off my back. Ima keep doing me and taking care of mine. So, be bitter and resentful cuz I don't care..

Anyway, yea, I worked very hard for everything I received, but I "was only in school because I got an athletic scholarship" or "they needed to fill their quota". Fool, I didn't run that fast or play that damn well...

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What will he be charged with?
Originally Posted by CocoT
No one in the public knows yet.. it will be announced tonight at 6pm est. We do know it's not first degree murder though. I'll definitely be tuned in to find out too.
Originally Posted by *Marah*
Is it wrong to bet he will be charged with Voluntary Manslaughter?? Even if it is wrong, so...

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What will he be charged with?
Originally Posted by CocoT
No one in the public knows yet.. it will be announced tonight at 6pm est. We do know it's not first degree murder though. I'll definitely be tuned in to find out too.
Originally Posted by *Marah*
Is it wrong to bet he will be charged with Voluntary Manslaughter?? Even if it is wrong, so...

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Originally Posted by Chicago Kinks
I say involuntary in the third degree

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My parent's always taught my siblings and I, you've got to always play the game better than them, you are always going to be required to go above and beyond so always be prepared.
When I graduating from high school some parents complained...they couldn't understand how a 16yr old with a baby was graduating a yr early and was the class valedictorian. I was always in the same AP classes as their kids. They were mean, calling for a recount of my grades. That was the one and only time I had my mom step in on my behalf but I thought it was because I had a baby....I realize now.

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No one in the public knows yet.. it will be announced tonight at 6pm est. We do know it's not first degree murder though. I'll definitely be tuned in to find out too.
Originally Posted by *Marah*
Is it wrong to bet he will be charged with Voluntary Manslaughter?? Even if it is wrong, so...

...tell PETA my mink is dragging on the floor...
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Originally Posted by Chicago Kinks
I say involuntary in the third degree
Originally Posted by juanab
Nawww, involuntary would be like the gun went off, voluntary is more of a in the heat of the moment.

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Last edited by happyface; 04-21-2012 at 05:19 PM.
My dr is retiring because her husband has cancer. So sad. I guess this explains why she was so cold when telling me this pregnancy won't be successful. Now I feel horrible for being so angry with her. I can't imagine what she must be going through.

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Originally Posted by happyface
I'm sorry, that is rough to be told such bad news in such a cold manner...she should know better I'm sure she wouldn't want to be told of the cancer in the same manner. She definitely had an excuse but not really, she should have deferred the communication to you to a colleague.

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It's time yall.. the special prosecutor is on the tv now... can she just get to it.. darn.. all these thank you can wait until the end.

Marah

I don't think they have to be an underachieving slacker - and that's the worst thing about it. In my situation, these people were in my AP classes, with similar grades, and were supposed to be smart enough to "know better." They knew me, they knew my achievements, they knew how hard I studied. Hell, we were all in NHS together and part of student council, and shared several EC activities. That was the part that hurt me - this wasn't some ignorant redneck complaining about black folks achieving - these were my peers since I was seven years old, and all my life, I had considered us equal. And then, at the end of the day, I was just another ni**er. Reality check. Point - society.

But yes, @greenjumper, it's certainly a coping mechanism - but a racist one.

Oh and the WORST part (for me) is that growing up my father would always tell me to watch myself around white people (him being a "token" in his field, to this day) and that they will smile in your face and stab you in the back, and I'd reply, "Daddy, it's not the 50s anymore. My friends aren't like that - we're all just friends, it doesn't matter what color I am, it's 2000." (I had a diverse group of HS friends too) HAH I was so damn wrong! Lesson learned.
Originally Posted by CurlyElectra
I think for a lot of POC that live in a predominately white neighborhood and go to predominately white schools it's a rude awakening. For a lot of blacks in mixed environments too. I know it was for me living in "White Folks City, USA. I graduated college in 2000... but way before that I knew what your Dad said is the truth. My mom basically related similiar sentiments to me all through my teen years...and even my father was clear about my brother and I understanding those things. Not sure why my younger brother got it way faster than I did.

I think for me personally growing up mostly around white people..it took me longer to recognize the full truth of what "our parents" were trying to convey. The funny thing is looking back.. I saw all sorts of evidence to prove their point very early on. I think I just didn't want to believe it but deep inside.. I knew. Because what else can you make of.. "well you're not like them.. you are "different" everytime a racist conversation came up about black folks. And some of the answers I got when I got bold enough to ask.. "Not like them in what way ..how am I different ?" Would make your hair stand on end.

This kind of ish will PUT a chip on your shoulder if it wasn't there before that's for sure..but if you don't control it then you are giving in to your uncivilized animal side..so there ya go.
Originally Posted by *Marah*
Marah, I agree with you 100%. I grew up in a white neighborhood and did not have many black kids in my classes, and looking back on certain situations there were instances of racism that I didn't even realize were there at the time. Like if my best friend and I "did" something (she's white), I would always be the one getting addressed and yelled at. Or like when I was the only black lifeguard at the pool (hell, we only had three black families at my pool) the mothers would act like I was supposed to order their food from the clubhouse for them or clean up after them. Or if something turned up missing, someone always asked me about it - b*sh, I don't want your kid's raggedy a$$ toys, my parents can buy me my own damn toys.
Originally Posted by CurlyElectra
you know it's still shocking to some when you tell them you know how to swim...

once at a BBQ this lady told my brother that the reason black kids drown more is because theres something in there bones that causes it.
OH MY GAWD..can she tell us.. DAMN.

Okay..Murder in the 2nd degree. He's in custody...she said he turned himself in...

second degree murder n. a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility. Second degree murder is different from First Degree Murder which is a premeditated, intentional killing, or results from a vicious crime such as arson, rape, or armed robbery. Exact distinctions on degree vary by state
The media is GOING NUTS! DANG!

Last edited by *Marah*; 04-11-2012 at 04:07 PM.
I don't understand the difference between murder and manslaughter

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Last edited by CocoT; 04-11-2012 at 04:18 PM.
I don't understand the difference between murder and manslaughter
Originally Posted by CocoT
Voluntary Manslaughter:

In most jurisdictions, voluntary manslaughter consists of an intentional killing that is accompanied by additional circumstances that mitigate, but do not excuse, the killing. The most common type of voluntary manslaughter occurs when a defendant is provoked to commit the Homicide. It is sometimes described as a heat of passion killing. In most cases, the provocation must induce rage or anger in the defendant, although some cases have held that fright, terror, or desperation will suffice.


Involuntary Manslaughter:

Involuntary manslaughter is the unlawful killing of another human being without intent. The absence of the intent element is the essential difference between voluntary and involuntary manslaughter. Also in most states, involuntary manslaughter does not result from a heat of passion but from an improper use of reasonable care or skill while in the commission of a lawful act or while in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to a felony.
Generally there are two types of involuntary manslaughter: (1) criminal-negligence manslaughter; and (2) unlawful-act manslaughter. The first occurs when death results from a high degree of Negligence or recklessness, and the second occurs when death is caused by one who commits or attempts to commit an unlawful act, usually a misdemeanor.


Criminally Negligent Manslaughter:

A homicide resulting from the taking of an unreasonable and high degree of risk is usually considered criminally negligent manslaughter. Jurisdictions are divided on the question of whether the defendant must be aware of the risk. Modern criminal codes generally require a consciousness of risk, although, under some codes, the absence of this element makes the offense a less serious homicide.
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First Degree Murder:

first degree murder n. although it varies from state to state, it is generally a killing which is deliberate and premeditated (planned, after lying in wait, by poison or as part of a scheme), in conjunction with felonies such as rape, burglary, arson, involving multiple deaths, the killing of certain types of people (such as a child, a police officer, a prison guard, a fellow prisoner), or with certain weapons, particularly a gun. The specific criteria for first degree murder are established by statute in each state and by the United States Code in federal prosecutions. It is distinguished from second degree murder in which premeditation is usually absent, and from manslaughter which lacks premeditation and suggests that at most there was intent to harm rather than to kill


Second Degree Murder:

second degree murder n. a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility. Second degree murder is different from First Degree Murder which is a premeditated, intentional killing, or results from a vicious crime such as arson, rape, or armed robbery. Exact distinctions on degree vary by state.
Oh thanks Marah. I just refreshed my page and saw your post after I already edited mine.
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I'm glad they charged him with 2nd degree. I never thought they had enough evidence or motive to charge him with 1st degree murder.
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So now it's just a wait and see if he'll be actually convicted of 2nd degree murder.
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I'm annoyed with this lady.
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I am going to wait and see how it plays out in court to make a judgment on whether he should be convicted or not. Regardless, I think that an arrest speaks volumes for the justice system, and not just this case.
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I'm annoyed with this lady.
Originally Posted by CocoT
Me too.. I think she's full of BS and plenty of it. She put on an EXCELLENT show though. She made sure to let the public know this didn't have to do with public pressure...which I SERIOUSLY think is BS. She went for the gusto with this and kept it "in house" so she could make the call. I think this is her big time stab at a "make me famous" case.

Damn.. I have to go somewhere.. they are having the Martin folks on Politics Nation. I want to see that.. UGH!

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