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I think that whether or not something is "offensive" is always going to be a matter of opinion. It's like sexual harassment in the work place. I can feel harassed without that being your intention. In this cases if there is a complaint that someone feels offended, I think it is important to address the offender and advise them that they cannot use that sort of language or whatever.

I don't understand why it's so hard for grown ass people to be respectful of one another.
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I know I'm am DEAD wrong for this.. but I laughed, laughed, and laughed some more when I read CocoT's post. I mean I hollered! LOL!

See..this is what you get.. you was complaining about a "dent" in the product before (not sure if it was this one or another) couldn't just be happy you had it..and so the PJ Karma Ghosts came and knocked ya stuff over ...they said.. "OH SHE GON LERN TODAY!"

I.AM.CRYING.LAUGHING.RIGHT.NOW!!!
Originally Posted by *Marah*
I don't know where she gets all these GIFs...
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I don't think I've ever came this close to crying over hair/body product. I done dropped my Bask whipped custard.

I watched as at least 4 ounces of product spattered onto my carpet. I tried to save it, but it was too late. My hand grazed the jar and I think that impact made even more product come out. I'm absolutely devastated. Damn my slippy hands. I just got out the shower and was gonna move my jar to my desk area so I can moisturize my skin. Oh where did I go wrong?!

Originally Posted by CocoT
Did it fall in such a manner where you can take a butter knife and scoop the top layer back into the container? Not the part actually touching the carpet, but the part on top? I won't tell anybody if you do that. No judgement.
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Marah I like you too, & keeny, & NCC,, juanab, Amneris, Chicago kinks, heck most folks. But I will be gone, account deleted after my 3 days is up. If its just me that's fine but I've been here almost a year and I won't be apart something that doesn't treat Black women like the asset we are to this industry. I'm in marketing and its unethical to run a board and profit from people you don't really care for as whole. That may not be what mgmt wants to portray but they've shown their hand and Amneris has the history to back it up. Wile E banned or not is minor to the real issue. Marah I think you understand that. I don't care if she's racist her statement and the handling of the situation tells me where I stand as a woman of color with NC.

I like many of the members but this has been my experience and I hope things change for the better. maybe I'll return if I hear things improved. And this is not tuck tail and run. This is about consumer power and as a consumer I won't patronize a business that carries on like this.


I can't with the bald headed reindeer games.
Originally Posted by sienna40
Aww..Sienna.

I wish you didn't feel like you had to leave. It's a darn shame it has to come down to that for some folks. Lawd.

I don't know what they can do.. I mean unless they are going to shell out some cash for professional moderators (and if they are.. I'll take that job and have all yall straightened out or ya behinds will be playing possum in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights..ROFL).

But seriously...I always see things slipping past or not seeming fair to somebody. I mean I don't know..apparently other people have said racist things too.. I didn't even know about the Puerto Rican comment NEA mentioned (SMH). Heck, I didn't even know Wile had said some of the other stuff folks revealed.. I was like.. "whhhhhhhhut ?" when I read it.

*Sigh* I don't know what they can do. I gave all the best suggestions I had.
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I know I'm am DEAD wrong for this.. but I laughed, laughed, and laughed some more when I read CocoT's post. I mean I hollered! LOL!

See..this is what you get.. you was complaining about a "dent" in the product before (not sure if it was this one or another) couldn't just be happy you had it..and so the PJ Karma Ghosts came and knocked ya stuff over ...they said.. "OH SHE GON LERN TODAY!"

I.AM.CRYING.LAUGHING.RIGHT.NOW!!!
Originally Posted by *Marah*
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I don't think I've ever came this close to crying over hair/body product. I done dropped my Bask whipped custard.

I watched as at least 4 ounces of product spattered onto my carpet. I tried to save it, but it was too late. My hand grazed the jar and I think that impact made even more product come out. I'm absolutely devastated. Damn my slippy hands. I just got out the shower and was gonna move my jar to my desk area so I can moisturize my skin. Oh where did I go wrong?!

Originally Posted by CocoT
Did it fall in such a manner where you can take a butter knife and scoop the top layer back into the container? Not the part actually touching the carpet, but the part on top? I won't tell anybody if you do that. No judgement.
Originally Posted by FoxyCleopatra
Well some of it seeped in the carpet but I was able to salvage most of it. In the spots where it had started to seep into the carpet, I just scraped my foot against it to get it on my feet. I wasn't about to let it go to waste. I also put some of it on my hair.
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Marah I like you too, & keeny, & NCC,, juanab, Amneris, Chicago kinks, heck most folks. But I will be gone, account deleted after my 3 days is up. If its just me that's fine but I've been here almost a year and I won't be apart something that doesn't treat Black women like the asset we are to this industry. I'm in marketing and its unethical to run a board and profit from people you don't really care for as whole. That may not be what mgmt wants to portray but they've shown their hand and Amneris has the history to back it up. Wile E banned or not is minor to the real issue. Marah I think you understand that. I don't care if she's racist her statement and the handling of the situation tells me where I stand as a woman of color with NC.

I like many of the members but this has been my experience and I hope things change for the better. maybe I'll return if I hear things improved. And this is not tuck tail and run. This is about consumer power and as a consumer I won't patronize a business that carries on like this.


I can't with the bald headed reindeer games.
Originally Posted by sienna40
Aww..Sienna.

I wish you didn't feel like you had to leave. It's a darn shame it has to come down to that for some folks. Lawd.

I don't know what they can do.. I mean unless they are going to shell out some cash for professional moderators (and if they are.. I'll take that job and have all yall straightened out or ya behinds will be playing possum in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights..ROFL).

But seriously...I always see things slipping past or not seeming fair to somebody. I mean I don't know..apparently other people have said racist things too.. I didn't even know about the Puerto Rican comment NEA mentioned (SMH). Heck, I didn't even know Wile had said some of the other stuff folks revealed.. I was like.. "whhhhhhhhut ?" when I read it.

*Sigh* I don't know what they can do. I gave all the best suggestions I had.
Originally Posted by *Marah*
It was part of the old SIIDY thread that went up in smoke.

I hate to see sienna40 go too. But I respect her decision, which is based on her personal convictions. A lot of folks huff and puff, but they ain't really about it. We'll see how it (addressing the mods) all pans out.
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Last edited by Ninjarette; 04-16-2012 at 11:49 AM.
I don't think I've ever came this close to crying over hair/body product. I done dropped my Bask whipped custard.

I watched as at least 4 ounces of product spattered onto my carpet. I tried to save it, but it was too late. My hand grazed the jar and I think that impact made even more product come out. I'm absolutely devastated. Damn my slippy hands. I just got out the shower and was gonna move my jar to my desk area so I can moisturize my skin. Oh where did I go wrong?!

Originally Posted by CocoT
Did it fall in such a manner where you can take a butter knife and scoop the top layer back into the container? Not the part actually touching the carpet, but the part on top? I won't tell anybody if you do that. No judgement.
Originally Posted by FoxyCleopatra
Well dangit.. I'm JUDGING! No she cannot take no butter knife and do nuthin'! The PJ Karma Ghosts have spoken..and she is gon have to lern today..that's it and that's all.

Folks done already shouted at the funeral, the doggone casket top was closed down, the pallbears done wheel Mrs. Bask Whipped Custard on out to the potters field (cause you know CocoT ain't had no extra money for no real cemetery plot), lowered her in the ground, dirt was thrown, and a wooden X was put there as a Memorial. She done gon' on home to meet with the Lawd.

IT IS FINISHED!
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I mean its come to
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I'm giving them 3 business days to let me know if they are seriously going to change things or not. Like you I think thats fair but if they don't then I know what the deal is. Inaction speaks loudly. I have more loyalty to my people than to textured media. I can't with the bald headed reindeer games.
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I don't think I've ever came this close to crying over hair/body product. I done dropped my Bask whipped custard.

I watched as at least 4 ounces of product spattered onto my carpet. I tried to save it, but it was too late. My hand grazed the jar and I think that impact made even more product come out. I'm absolutely devastated. Damn my slippy hands. I just got out the shower and was gonna move my jar to my desk area so I can moisturize my skin. Oh where did I go wrong?!

Originally Posted by CocoT
Did it fall in such a manner where you can take a butter knife and scoop the top layer back into the container? Not the part actually touching the carpet, but the part on top? I won't tell anybody if you do that. No judgement.
Originally Posted by FoxyCleopatra
Well some of it seeped in the carpet but I was able to salvage most of it. In the spots where it had started to seep into the carpet, I just scraped my foot against it to get it on my feet. I wasn't about to let it go to waste. I also put some of it on my hair.
Originally Posted by CocoT
Have you no shame ? I wouldn't neva told no mess like this out nowhere.. LOL!

I.AM.STILL.LAUGHING.
I mean its come to
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I'm giving them 3 business days to let me know if they are seriously going to change things or not. Like you I think thats fair but if they don't then I know what the deal is. Inaction speaks loudly. I have more loyalty to my people than to textured media. I can't with the bald headed reindeer games.
Originally Posted by sienna40
Lawd.. no she did not put up a Ceily "Until you do right by ME every thing you THINK about is gonna fail" picture up..

OH MY Goodness.. I am about to have a heart attack ...
I don't think I've ever came this close to crying over hair/body product. I done dropped my Bask whipped custard.

I watched as at least 4 ounces of product spattered onto my carpet. I tried to save it, but it was too late. My hand grazed the jar and I think that impact made even more product come out. I'm absolutely devastated. Damn my slippy hands. I just got out the shower and was gonna move my jar to my desk area so I can moisturize my skin. Oh where did I go wrong?!

Originally Posted by CocoT
http://listentoleon.net/wp/wp-conten...-damn-damn.jpg

That is so cold. But you did get your $$ worth when you put your foot in it.

I can't with the bald headed reindeer games.
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Did it fall in such a manner where you can take a butter knife and scoop the top layer back into the container? Not the part actually touching the carpet, but the part on top? I won't tell anybody if you do that. No judgement.
Originally Posted by FoxyCleopatra
Well some of it seeped in the carpet but I was able to salvage most of it. In the spots where it had started to seep into the carpet, I just scraped my foot against it to get it on my feet. I wasn't about to let it go to waste. I also put some of it on my hair.
Originally Posted by CocoT
Have you no shame ? I wouldn't neva told no mess like this out nowhere.. LOL!

I.AM.STILL.LAUGHING.
Originally Posted by *Marah*
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds

-Albert Einstein
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I mean its come to
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I'm giving them 3 business days to let me know if they are seriously going to change things or not. Like you I think thats fair but if they don't then I know what the deal is. Inaction speaks loudly. I have more loyalty to my people than to textured media. I can't with the bald headed reindeer games.
Originally Posted by sienna40
Lawd.. no she did not put up a Ceily "Until you do right by ME every thing you THINK about is gonna fail" picture up..

OH MY Goodness.. I am about to have a heart attack ...
Originally Posted by *Marah*
Yep...I caught that too. I was like, "Is that The Color Purple? Naw...it's my eyes playin' tricks..."
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My logical mind can't wrap itself around the fact that folks who KNEW the flavor of this place, from the very beginning, when it got real thick, and up till now...decided to remain. Why? Seems like "thug" is the least of it. Was it like a "Hope springs eternal" type thing? People were just planning on things changing? Again, this has been going on for years, right? When the concerns were ignored the FIRST time, that would have been the last time for me. But that's just how I am. I'm not generous with "second chances", not when it comes to folks tolerating blatant racism.

I need to try and find some of this stuff, because I missed all of it.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
I'm still catching up in the thread but I wanted to comment on this right here at least based on my experiences.

Around 2006 there was a mass exodus of black posters (including me) that left the site because of inconsistant moderation and the fact that posters were posting veiled and not so veiled racist remarks that were allowed to remain while black posters were told to stop being "bullies" and mean (sound familiar?). During this time, there were really no other message boards dedicated to natural hair except NP.com and many of us had left there prior to coming to NC.com because of the cenorship and issues with "having defined curls". There was an undertone that discouraged people that had curls from talking about defining them. So those of us that left started a new board called Happy Curls. It thrived for a few years and then slowed died out around 2009-10ish.

Around that time is when I started back lurking here. I lurked for a while and I really didn't start posting back on NC.com regularly until around 2010. I actually started back posting because it seemed the atomosphere had changed a lot...there wasn't many issues with the racist posts and veiled comments and such and I actually thought that since a certain group of white posters left in protest around the same time as the exodus that the site had changed. As of lately, that has all been called into question yet again.

I can only speak for myself, but NC.com is where I come to shoot the ****. I like the posters in 4a and a few in nonhair and when I'm at work and I get tired of looking at chemical equations and toxicology reports, this is where I come to get my mental coffee break. Initally I used to order products from curlmart because it was easier than ordering from multiple sites that were not secure, but I long ago stopped ordering through curlmart because of the high shipping costs. After the exodus in 2006, I dayum sure wasn't giving curlmart any of my money.

So now here we are today. At this point for me, I could give a dayum about Wiley's comment or RCW posting it in her siggy. I'm used to dealing with overt and covert racism on a daily basis, so I'd rather know where I stand with a person on the issue of race. Wiley's made it clear where she stands, so I know how to treat her accordingly...no more no less. Ban her, don't ban her...makes me no nevermind. I usually can't understand the babble she posts anyway and I don't have the time or patience to decode the ish so its just another poster I can breeze on by when I'm reading.

What concerns me and what prompted my inital post was the return to inconsistant moderation and the claim/assertion by the mods that black posters are "meanies and bullies" and are constantly being told to "play nice" because some people like to twist things and play the victim. The fact that I've seen several of you post about not feeling welcome in other sections of the board bothers me because you should feel welcome everywhere here....espcially since 75% of the dayum ads are directed at you...**** we're the revenue generators around here.

NC.com blew up when more and more black women decided to go natural and began using the net for information/resources. NP.com can be mad intimidating espically for someone that hasn't taken off the mental shackles of "good hair" and are only interested in wearing thier hair natural if it looks a certain way (i.e with definable/visible curls). Hence the success of this site and its sister sites.

I see the writing on the wall and it seems that at least on NC.com, history does indeed repeat itself. The issues with moderation continue. Black posters are still accused of being mean and bullies even when it is CLEAR that other posters are the agressors and initiated any conflict. I know that Gretchen has asked for suggestions on how to make the site better and I fully plan to send some to her (and I encourage the rest of you to do the same), and I know it will take time to implement any changes. I don't know if those suggestions will help...I don't know if thing will change. I'm not even so sure I have the patience to even wait and see what will happen to be honest.
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I don't think I've ever came this close to crying over hair/body product. I done dropped my Bask whipped custard.

I watched as at least 4 ounces of product spattered onto my carpet. I tried to save it, but it was too late. My hand grazed the jar and I think that impact made even more product come out. I'm absolutely devastated. Damn my slippy hands. I just got out the shower and was gonna move my jar to my desk area so I can moisturize my skin. Oh where did I go wrong?!

Originally Posted by CocoT
http://listentoleon.net/wp/wp-conten...-damn-damn.jpg

That is so cold. But you did get your $$ worth when you put your foot in it.

I can't with the bald headed reindeer games.
Originally Posted by sienna40
LOL!!

Sure did.
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CocoT, a product junkie crack head.. cause only a crack head would drop some stuff clear on the floor and then actually put their doggone FOOT in it.. and attempt to use it. Like in the movies when crack heads drop their stuff and they go snort it right on the floor.

Wait..can you snort crack ? Or is that cocaine ?

Well whatever..she emulatin' Pookie from New Jack City!



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