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Ummm, I have no interest in seeing it. It didn't hit the "must see" level for me.
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Lol I was trying to explain what genre I thought the film fell into after I saw it (had never heard of "spaghetti western" or whatever) so I kept naming films that I felt were sorta similar: "It was kind of like Pulp Fiction? And Dust til Dawn"....and then I realized I was just naming QT movies. I guess he's a genre in and of himself.
Originally Posted by AmberBrown


That's actually really funny that you did that, I can spot his films a mile away, my friend had no idea he did any of those movies after we saw this one. I was like HOW CAN YOU NOT NOTICE his style.

His films are always good tho.

Again the movie was good but not feels good to me.

But now that I remembered the scene where they're on the horses about to ambush, i do wanna see it again because that scene was hilarious for me. Besides Leo Dio loooking hawt with his brown teefes.
I wanna see this movie.

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Django was amazing on so many levels! I want to see it again.


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Originally Posted by CocoT
Really?

I mean it was good, but I'm wasn't moved by it. I think the longness off it, is what made me not like it. I thought it was about to end so many times and was soo mad that it didn't end. Also not enough leo dio, GOTTA WAIT TILL HALF WAY THRU THE MOVIE FOR HIS ASS. I PAID MONEY FOR HIM AND ONLY HIS FACE.


I kind of felt like Dr. Schult, was annoying because he's Mister save all the black people from slavery, that kind of annoyed me a tiny bit.

Also saying the n word so many times in a jokingly manner, like "I've never seen a n**** on a horse before" etc, made me feel like it's gonna have white people quoting it like crazy and thinking its okay.


I'd probably watch it one more time, but after that no more, maybe like a year later or something.
Originally Posted by murrrcat
SPOILERS*SPOILERS*SPOILERS*SPOILERS*SPOILERS*SPOIL ERS!!!!!!

I was sure I'd dislike it for all the reasons you listed, but I ended up LOVING it. Best film I've seen all year (disclaimer: I only remember the films I've seen since August...).

I have an issue with the "n" word being used a-historically. I think it was very apropos for it to be flung all over the place in Django. That's what they called us...I also hope the constant and CLEARLY denigrating use of the word might cause a couple black people who think they're "reclaiming" something by tossing slurs to rethink some things.

I think that Dr. Schultz could have easily become a "captain save a negro" without Jamie Foxx's stoic, self-determined acting. Despite the fact Django started the film in a position of disadvantage as a slave (and honestly, he ended the film at a disadvantage as a free black man) he negotiated his conditions from jump. He always knew what he wanted and what his purpose was. To save Broomhilde. And he made sure that the doctor knew that. And while their rescue strategy started out as Schultz's brainchild, by the time they got to Candieland it was clear even to Monsieur Candy that Django was running the show.

And speaking of Broomhilde, god did I love to see a black woman portrayed as the damsel for once. It was extremely refreshing to see a black woman play something other than the sassy, tough as nails, "un-feminine" stereotype. I have a couple white "feminist" friends decrying Kerry Washington's role as weak and existing only for a man, but dang. Media portrayal as "weak" was never really a problem that "strong black women" had.

This movie was just an A on all fronts for me. I'm not hating on your post Murrcat I just have all of these FEELS and you gave me a springboard.
Originally Posted by AmberBrown
Well hey there! I haven't seen you around here in a while.

Also, I agree with you 100%. Best film I've seen in a while hands down. Especially about Broomhilda. I heard that there was some backlash about this character but after having seen it I understand where that comes from more, and it annoys me. I think you put it perfectly, and I also think its ironic that feminists seem to be the forefront with the backlash but historically feminism wasn't even for black women.

As for the n-word, I doubt this movie will inspire white people to go running around calling black people the n-word all willy milky now. If it does I really don't care. As long as they don't say it to me or in my presence. In context I don't see the big deal. Spike Lee and people who think like him getting all mad about the amount of times it was used and they think this movie is disrespectful to slaves/our ancestors, but I think that's ridiculous. The only reason he's saying that is because the movie was made by tarentino, a white man. Can we talk about black representation in Spike's movies? Please. Django is an empowering story, and I don't think it demeans our history at all.

As for Dr. Shultz's character, I'm not mad about it. I can understand how some could have some resentment with the "white savior" character, but I feel like if you watch a movie like this with your guard up like that you're gonna feel that way. I didn't get that impression. The reality is that things like that did happen. Some whites did it because they despised slavery, some did it because they didn't feel that blacks were inhuman, some did it out of pity, some did it out of love. It's all really complicated. But at the end of the day, good things came from it. Black people had to demand our respect and worked hard to earn it.


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There's quite a backlash against the film for romanticizing slavery & spike lee isn't crazy about the movie. But I think he's hating.

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Originally Posted by ss40
He is mad and he can stay mad.

The film doesn't romanticize slavery. I only hear people who haven't seen the movie saying this. If you don't want to see it for that reason, here is the real tea: There is a romantic story during the time period of which this movie is set, but the movie itself isn't romanticizing slavery. Ain't nothing romantic about slavery and to imply such is so beyond absurd it isn't even funny. But slaves did have romance. I'm quite certain of that or else a lot of us, including myself wouldn't be here today.


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I wasn't saying they would go around calling black people the n word. but Okay. I'm just saying it's a very quote worthy movie, so I don't want to hear it, cause it'll come out waaaay wrong.

I didn't have my gaurd up at all, I just thought it was being pushed too hard, like damn dr schults calm down, you doing the most. I actually thought when people said that this movie was gonna be stupid because of the white savior role I rolled my eyes, and still wanted to see it, but now I kind of see what they mean.


I don't know. I just didn't see the feels. I didn't even care to see it after I saw the previews, only for the LD.

I'd give it a 4.5 stars. Only for comedy and great acting. Storyline too Quintin tarantino-y.



That being said Inglourius Basterds gave me the feels back in the day.

Maybe I should watch it twice, so I can catch the feels.


anywho....


anyone think leo dio, was a bit two sided in the movie with his acting?
I can't explain with out spoiling stuff, but one way he said something, and then right after it would be a totally different way. If that makes sense.

AND him and that skull speech, lawd I hope no one thinks that true, or watches it and thinks that true. Minus idiots, The youth be so impressionable.


But I guess If I take it as Inglourius Basterds, it's a dream revenge movie, so I can see how it turns the feels on.
Hi Coco, I'm glad I decided to stop by now I needed to share some Django feels lol.

Murrrcat, I actually agree about the "N" word. Some people are going to take it as another excuse to run their fool mouths. Those people have been casualties of the War against Stupid for a long time though. I can't be mad at the movie for that.

I'd wager that Spike Lee is mad he didn't get the movie. Which...yeah, it's too bad that he's not "mainstream" enough to have his choice of films....but c'mon son. Don't just make stuff up.
I wasn't saying they would go around calling black people the n word. but Okay. I'm just saying it's a very quote worthy movie, so I don't want to hear it, cause it'll come out waaaay wrong.

I didn't have my gaurd up at all, I just thought it was being pushed too hard, like damn dr schults calm down, you doing the most. I actually thought when people said that this movie was gonna be stupid because of the white savior role I rolled my eyes, and still wanted to see it, but now I kind of see what they mean.


I don't know. I just didn't see the feels. I didn't even care to see it after I saw the previews, only for the LD.

I'd give it a 4.5 stars. Only for comedy and great acting. Storyline too Quintin tarantino-y.



That being said Inglourius Basterds gave me the feels back in the day.

Maybe I should watch it twice, so I can catch the feels.


anywho....


anyone think leo dio, was a bit two sided in the movie with his acting?
I can't explain with out spoiling stuff, but one way he said something, and then right after it would be a totally different way. If that makes sense.

AND him and that skull speech, lawd I hope no one thinks that true, or watches it and thinks that true. Minus idiots, The youth be so impressionable.


But I guess If I take it as Inglourius Basterds, it's a dream revenge movie, so I can see how it turns the feels on.
Originally Posted by murrrcat
I get it. My post wasn't directed entirely at you but it did just make me think of some things and I got a little carried away. I'm not trying to make you feel something you didn't or can't at all. I get some people won't be moved or that impressed by it and I have no reason to be offended. It's not like I bought your movie ticket or created the movie.lol

However, I don't see nothing wrong with sharing opinions and perspectives, or even a little friendly debate.

And I don't really know what you mean with Leonardo's character. Can you give an example?

Oh btw, did y'all know he actually cut his own hand during that scene? He just didn't break character. I knew all that blood came out of nowhere so I looked it up and found out.


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Hi Coco, I'm glad I decided to stop by now I needed to share some Django feels lol.

Murrrcat, I actually agree about the "N" word. Some people are going to take it as another excuse to run their fool mouths. Those people have been casualties of the War against Stupid for a long time though. I can't be mad at the movie for that.

I'd wager that Spike Lee is mad he didn't get the movie. Which...yeah, it's too bad that he's not "mainstream" enough to have his choice of films....but c'mon son. Don't just make stuff up.
Originally Posted by AmberBrown
I'm curious as to how a movie like this would have looked if Spike did it. Or how he would have preferred a story like this to look.


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I don't need to watch that movie. In fact I usually avoid movies about institutionalized racism because they get me so worked up. I just finished watching Amistad tonight and I am pissed. Mississippi Burning, Roots, Glory or anything the like that has me ready to start a revolution.
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Hi Coco, I'm glad I decided to stop by now I needed to share some Django feels lol.

Murrrcat, I actually agree about the "N" word. Some people are going to take it as another excuse to run their fool mouths. Those people have been casualties of the War against Stupid for a long time though. I can't be mad at the movie for that.

I'd wager that Spike Lee is mad he didn't get the movie. Which...yeah, it's too bad that he's not "mainstream" enough to have his choice of films....but c'mon son. Don't just make stuff up.
Originally Posted by AmberBrown
I'm curious as to how a movie like this would have looked if Spike did it. Or how he would have preferred a story like this to look.


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Originally Posted by CocoT
So am I. I hate it when people talk isht about what's wrong with something and then never say how they'd make it better. Apparently, he made his first criticism (to many "n" bombs) before he'd even seen the movie? Idk. Maybe he'd just replace every incidence of that word with something else. Which sounds stupid. Maybe he'd rate the movie NC&W(hites) and only let mature black audiences who wouldn't misuse the word watch it. Ha. Or maybe he'd just kill it before it was written.

I don't know if it's just how the media paints him....but Spike's been coming off as extremely petty and spiteful lately.
I don't need to watch that movie. In fact I usually avoid movies about institutionalized racism because they get me so worked up. I just finished watching Amistad tonight and I am pissed. Mississippi Burning, Roots, Glory or anything the like that has me ready to start a revolution.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Well slavery wasn't a pleasant experience. Telling the story isn't supposed to be a comforting tale that's easy to digest. If you're gonna tell the story, there is no good way around the brutality....unless you completely ignore it (which happens, and isn't really a good way around it.Smh). That's what's hard about movies set during the period can be so I understand if people are afraid of movies like this for that reason. When it is told with honesty and depicting the harsh reality it is not easy to stomach. There were some scenes in Django that were hard to watch because the context and brutality were just so powerful.


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Spike doesn't do films like this. Q.T. Has been talking about doing a Black spaghetti western for a while. I'm a fan of both directors. who doesn't love Jackie Brown or Malcolm X. I think I watch both films annually.

Spike is wrong because he knows Q.T. Has a certain style. Spike acts like he thought it would be more like a Clint Eastwood film or something. Like I said, Spike is hating because Red Hook Summer went from the theater to Netflix in 3 months. How many movies does he expect us to watch about Brooklyn? Gosh.

Is funny to hear folks say they don't want to see this film. I watch movies like A time to kill, Malcolm X, American History X, Higher Learning, & even Rosewood, to remind myself that we are not far removed from those times.

But if Django is more like inglorious basterds I know I'm going to enjoy it more if I watch it from that angle.

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Spike Lee and Tarantino have always had beef I think. Either it was him or him and Samuel Jackson that say he wants to be down or black so bad thus his gratuitous use of the "n" word on films that can go that direction.
And yah Spike is starting to sound like a grumpy old man. I never watched a lot of Lee movies if I had to be honest. Last movie I saw was Inside Man. Other than that I have seen bits and pieces of a Spike Lee Joint.
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Yea, some scenes were disturbing, but I don't think they were powerful because of the context, I think they were just brutal because it's Q.T.'s film.

If you haven't seen Inglourious Basterds, I would recommend it, if you guys liked this movie because they're pretty much the same style.
Dr. Schultz is in it too. hhahahhhaha

I think that might be why I'm hesitant to get the feels with this movie, cause everyone is praising it but wasn't nobody praising inglourious basterds LOL. I was out in the streets forcing people to watch this movie hahahahahahaah That was my movie. I almost married it. That was a good effing movie. I'm about to go watch it, I forgot I owned it.




I never heard that about spike lee and q.t. that's interesting.....and now that you've said that....I'm going to pay more attention
Inglorious *******s was 3 years ago though. Why would we be focusing on that film? Plus, it received a lot of accolades so I'm sure people know how good it was.


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Inglorious *******s was 3 years ago though. Why would we be focusing on that film? Plus, it received a lot of accolades so I'm sure people know how good it was.


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Originally Posted by CocoT

I didn't mean now...obviously. I meant at the time no one was going hard about it like they are this film. I'm talking about people people, not people that rate movies etc etc. I'm assuming only because of jamie fox and it having to do with slavery.


Anyway I'm done talking about this because everything I say is misconstrued into a different way.
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