CARMEL TREATMENT

CurlJustice · 01-20-2007, 01:53 PM

I'm from Philly, but currently reside in LA. While I was in Philly in december, I got my hair done (full weave; but completely chemical free underneath). My stylist who is also chemical free started telling me about a new product called Carmel. It's supposedly so natural, u can eat it. It's sort of like a deep conditioning product, I guess- except you don't need to apply heat. She said the longer you leave it on, the softer, and more manageable your hair becomes. You can actually leave it on overnight- so the stylist said. The stylist's hair was very pretty and straight, and I asked if it was relaxed. She said that she just used the Carmel treatment and pressed her hair. My grandma also used it, and said that it was ok, but nothing exciting. But I have heard others I know in Philly saying they've heard it's good, but none have tried it yet. Anyway, I have been trying to find it in LA so that I can try it- but when I did an internet search, the only results were for Philly area. Anyone else ANYWHERE heard of or tried this product? If so what'd you think?

nappymd · 01-22-2007, 09:04 PM

Is it a conditioner or a natural texturizer?

lady1gryphon · 01-24-2007, 09:37 AM

Here is the link I found

http://www.unihaircare.com/carmel-na...onditioner.htm

Me personally I am kinda of suspicious of it because they fail to post a picture and provide a list of the ingredients. If it is 100% natural then there should not be any reason to reveal the ingredients.

Remember the Rio Relaxer?

kdcreigh · 01-24-2007, 10:05 AM

There is discussion about this product in the 4a section also. One of the ladies who has posted there has tried this product.

Hairblogger ™ · 01-31-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CurlJustice

a new product called Carmel. It's supposedly so natural, u can eat it. It's sort of like a deep conditioning product, I guess- except you don't need to apply heat. She said the longer you leave it on, the softer, and more manageable your hair becomes. You can actually leave it on overnight- so the stylist said.

It sounds like a Rio-type texturizer, rebranded...

I

at any 'bio-softener' you can leave in over night.

natashamck · 02-01-2007, 05:30 PM

ALSO POSTED IN 4A:

I found the ingredients on a NP.com thread they are:
honey,olive oil,bananas,molasses,cornstarch,water,vinegar,and wheat germ oil

not sure what the affects of those ingredients on your hair would be (especially the vinegar & cornstarch

) Most of the people who posted to that thread seemed to like the products but not the customer service.

From the pictures on the e'tae website this product seems to be really moisturizing - but I'd be afraid that I'd loose some of my curls if I used it before straightening...

adia425 · 02-03-2007, 04:11 AM

Hi,
The cornstarch is probably just to thicken the product. I'm not sure what vinegar does.

In addition to actually using the Carmel treatment, I've also made my own as a conditioning treatment ith molasses, banana, honey and wheat germ; the main ingredients. I'm leaning toward purchasing again b/c I was stuck with banana pulp in my hair with the homemade version (but this does not occur with the commercial version.) But there really are no chemicals besides a preservative in the commercial version.

I'm not sure what everyone means by "texturize" but from my experience with the product store bought/homemade, I had no problem with my hair reverting back to its natural texture. There are several recipes on the web if you use search terms like "molasses honey hair conditioner" if you want to try before you buy or use as an alternative.

Hairblogger ™ · 02-24-2007, 07:19 AM

Those aren't the only ingredients, it also contains some harsh ingredients
alkaline water and soda ash, (lye) elements found in some relaxer products...

The woman on the site's hair looks processed, not simply flatironed.

kdcreigh · 02-24-2007, 10:03 AM

hairblogger - where are you getting your information?

I have the Carmel treatment and have used it. It didn't relax my hair, but it did well-condition my hair.

The ingredients listed on the bottle are those mentioned in previous threads. There is no "alkaline water" or "soda ash." I think you have this treatment confused with another.

Hairblogger ™ · 02-25-2007, 06:58 PM

I hope I'm not mixing my notes up....

But, I'll try to double check-- I can't find the link right now, but I thought the name sounded right...

If it's the one where you go to the site and there's a lady with a chinlenght bob (I guess it's a blow-out) of some sort, but it looks relaxed to me... But, I may be mixing my info, i'll try to double check later in the week when i have more time, but 'sorry' guys, just in case.

kdcreigh · 02-26-2007, 07:08 AM

Hi hairblogger,

The woman on the e'tae main page may actually have relaxed hair. The e'tae salon's main page talks about using their products to extend the time between relaxers.

There are alot of products on the market that claim to be all-natural and then contain things like alkaline water (Fresh Look Hair BodipHier) or guanidine carbonate (Phytorelaxer).

The Naturalaxer is a chemical relaxer that is trying to pass as a 'natural relaxer.' The FAQ page tells it all. You mix two compounds together and it gives off a strong smell (just like Phytorelaxer). It permanently straightens your hair and it is to be applied only to new growth.

The Fresh Look BodipHer FAQ page is just as informative. One of the responses to a question is "The BodipHier is an alkaline product with a pH of 12.0." Just like a traditional lye relaxer.

It is very confusing.

Hairblogger ™ · 02-27-2007, 02:50 PM

I hear you!

I think it's really about finding the right conditioners appropriate for your hair needs. I find that when I have a really solid rich (humectant) condish DT, my hair is a lot softer and than when I try one that is formulated for lighter hair types that may not be as dry as mine...

But it may have been the bodiphier I'm thinking of... But, I will definitely check out the carmel page more thoroughly. I guess the only way to really know would be to have a chemist volunteer to analyze the product, itself...

05-09-2007, 12:02 PM

I agree it sounds like Rio, which took people's hair out.

liznewark · 05-28-2007, 01:00 AM

it is nothing like Rio or Copa. It's simply a deep conditioner made with honey or molasses!

MellymelT · 08-10-2007, 04:46 PM

Hello i live in Philly and i use the carmel on my hair and also my two daughter and believe me it is very good u can order it online if you want to get it and also the other products are really good take a look at the it www.Etaeproducts.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurlJustice

I'm from Philly, but currently reside in LA. While I was in Philly in december, I got my hair done (full weave; but completely chemical free underneath). My stylist who is also chemical free started telling me about a new product called Carmel. It's supposedly so natural, u can eat it. It's sort of like a deep conditioning product, I guess- except you don't need to apply heat. She said the longer you leave it on, the softer, and more manageable your hair becomes. You can actually leave it on overnight- so the stylist said. The stylist's hair was very pretty and straight, and I asked if it was relaxed. She said that she just used the Carmel treatment and pressed her hair. My grandma also used it, and said that it was ok, but nothing exciting. But I have heard others I know in Philly saying they've heard it's good, but none have tried it yet. Anyway, I have been trying to find it in LA so that I can try it- but when I did an internet search, the only results were for Philly area. Anyone else ANYWHERE heard of or tried this product? If so what'd you think?

swytchocolate · 09-04-2008, 01:28 PM

the carmel treatment is an awesome product! it really softens the texture of your hair and makes it sooooo manageable!

i have been natural for 7 yrs now and have used etae for most of that time. i would not recommend making it yourself but i always order my products right off their website. its www.etaeproducts.com

BugEyeZ · 09-13-2008, 10:46 PM

i've made a homemade version of the carmel treatment with fantastic results!!

curlygirlbeautiful · 09-15-2008, 12:10 PM

@bug eyez
what ingredients did u use
w measurements, please thanks

jujucabana · 09-20-2008, 12:53 PM

i liked copa. i wish it was still out. it was great on my hair.

BugEyeZ · 09-20-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by curlygirlbeautiful

@bug eyez
what ingredients did u use
w measurements, please thanks

feel free to check out the homemade products section of my fotki for full details. just click on the link.