CurlTalk

CurlTalk (http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/)
-   4 (http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/4/)
-   -   Deva Cuts and Styling on 4a Hair (http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/4/144042-deva-cuts-styling-4a-hair.html)

Alice_42 05-02-2012 06:27 AM

Deva Cuts and Styling on 4a Hair
 
Since I'm graduating in May, I figured I'd take this opportunity to pamper myself and get a high end, fancy smancy Deva cut. One of my biggest concern about them is the fact that I don't wear my hair in a wash and go all the time and I don't really want to! For those of you who have gotten a Deva cut, did you have to change your usual styling (twists, braids, twist outs, braid outs, etc) habits? Did these styles look better or worse than before?

Thanks for all your help!

juanab 05-02-2012 08:09 AM

I can't answer your question, but I wanted to say congrats on your upcoming graduation.

itsKelCeeEee 05-02-2012 08:00 PM

Whooooa I read your blog all the time yo. Good stuff :) Congratulations!

Unfortunately I have no idea either, but I really want to see what people say because I always figured that they wouldn't work the same for kinkier hair textures. I could be wrong, I probably am since everyone's head is different, but I've always been pretty wary of anything involving scissors.

CurvyCurly 05-02-2012 08:43 PM

I got a Deva cut by a trained stylist about a year ago when I was doing washNgo's most of the time. Well I have about four different textures throughout my head.

Each time I washed and allowed it to air dry the style never really looked the same because of the texture differences some curls hang lower or shrank up differently depending on whether I used a denman, teezer, finger combed etc.

Understand that if you have the same texture throughout, your hair will be somewhat even or will have a decent shape/cut when stretched after your Deva cut however if you have many different textures like me...when stretched or blown straight you will notice different lengths.

It's been over eight months since my last Deva cut and I was pondering whether to just have it blow dried, flat ironed, and cut while perfectly straight like I used to do.

If you're a washNgo person a Deva cut may be ideal because the Deva cut caters to the shape you want after doing a washNgo however if you like wearing stretched styles it may be better to have your hair cut and shaped after it has been straightened.

HTH

Alice_42 05-03-2012 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juanab (Post 1945430)
I can't answer your question, but I wanted to say congrats on your upcoming graduation.

Thank you!

Quote:

Whooooa I read your blog all the time yo. Good stuff :icon_smile: Congratulations!

Unfortunately I have no idea either, but I really want to see what people say because I always figured that they wouldn't work the same for kinkier hair textures. I could be wrong, I probably am since everyone's head is different, but I've always been pretty wary of anything involving scissors.
Thank you! The only styling pictures I've actually seen were wash and gos and straight so I'm really curious about twist outs and braid outs because those are my go-to styles.

Quote:

I got a Deva cut by a trained stylist about a year ago when I was doing washNgo's most of the time. Well I have about four different textures throughout my head.

Each time I washed and allowed it to air dry the style never really looked the same because of the texture differences some curls hang lower or shrank up differently depending on whether I used a denman, teezer, finger combed etc.

Understand that if you have the same texture throughout, your hair will be somewhat even or will have a decent shape/cut when stretched after your Deva cut however if you have many different textures like me...when stretched or blown straight you will notice different lengths.

It's been over eight months since my last Deva cut and I was pondering whether to just have it blow dried, flat ironed, and cut while perfectly straight like I used to do.

If you're a washNgo person a Deva cut may be ideal because the Deva cut caters to the shape you want after doing a washNgo however if you like wearing stretched styles it may be better to have your hair cut and shaped after it has been straightened.

HTH
I don't have the same texture throwout, but it's pretty uniform across my entire head with only slight differences. The one thing I noticed when I had my hair cut straight is it never fell in a way I liked in wash and gos or stretched style (the layers always end up super choppy). Have you ever had that problem when your hair was cut straight?

triple_spiral 05-03-2012 10:44 PM

I just had a devacut earlier today, and I had another one almost a year ago. My sister (who has texturized straightish ends, and then very kinky hair underneath - 4b maybe) also just had a cut, we went together.

The guy who cut our hair said he's done alot of type 4 (not his words, but hair "like ours") before. I agree that it's great if you wash-n-go alot, might be iffy if you plan on straightening. I'm not sure about braids/twists because I don't really do either....but for the way my hair has been cut, I don't think doing braids etc would be any more difficult - the layers are not really that uneven, because my hair is pretty uniform. It does have more definite layers though.The cut prevents that "stacked" effect - where the bottom is really puffy and big because the curls are on top of one another, and the top gets flat. "triangle head" is what I usually call it.

Oh, also, as far as that "curl by curl cutting" thing....I would say for type 4 hair they cut more "bit by bit". Which is good because curl by curl would take about seven hours. It's a very slow cut still, with alot of standing back and checking to see how things are going.

I might post some pictures tomorrow or this weekend.

Alice_42 05-04-2012 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triple_spiral (Post 1946958)
I just had a devacut earlier today, and I had another one almost a year ago. My sister (who has texturized straightish ends, and then very kinky hair underneath - 4b maybe) also just had a cut, we went together.

The guy who cut our hair said he's done alot of type 4 (not his words, but hair "like ours") before. I agree that it's great if you wash-n-go alot, might be iffy if you plan on straightening. I'm not sure about braids/twists because I don't really do either....but for the way my hair has been cut, I don't think doing braids etc would be any more difficult - the layers are not really that uneven, because my hair is pretty uniform. It does have more definite layers though.The cut prevents that "stacked" effect - where the bottom is really puffy and big because the curls are on top of one another, and the top gets flat. "triangle head" is what I usually call it.

Oh, also, as far as that "curl by curl cutting" thing....I would say for type 4 hair they cut more "bit by bit". Which is good because curl by curl would take about seven hours. It's a very slow cut still, with alot of standing back and checking to see how things are going.

I might post some pictures tomorrow or this weekend.

I would love to see pictures! How is the cut growing out for you?

CurvyCurly 05-04-2012 12:23 PM

triple_spiral said....."The cut prevents that "stacked" effect - where the bottom is really puffy and big because the curls are on top of one another, and the top gets flat. "triangle head" is what I usually call it.

Oh, also, as far as that "curl by curl cutting" thing....I would say for type 4 hair they cut more "bit by bit". Which is good because curl by curl would take about seven hours. It's a very slow cut still, with alot of standing back and checking to see how things are going."



Yes, I agree with this. I was starting to have what I call 'Mushroom Head' thing going on, which is why I got the Deva cut. I had her "round out" (layer) the shape a bit more; it worked great and framed my face when I did mostly washNgo's last summer. Over this past winter I did more protective styles like twist/braidouts and noticed the uneven areas because I have more shrinkage on my right than left and something totally different going on front and back.

Yep, it's more like clump by clump versus 'curl by curl' for type 4 hair.

It's definitely time to get another cut because my hair is fine so the longer is gets the thinner/scragglier it looks.

QtBoutique 05-04-2012 12:42 PM

I don't know what area you live in but I'm in the DC metro area and I've had a Deva cut twice at Fiddleheads Salon. The first time I went I was four months natural and wore a wash n go. The cut was done very slowly and turned out nice and even all around. The styling, however, was abysmal. There was no curl definition to be found in my whole head and the Deva Care products made my hair feel waxy. It seemed like the stylist just thought, "She's Black. She likes Afros," so she decided to pick my hair out (with her hands) and separate and fluff up my curls as much as possible. I was not happy. (-__-)

The second time I went was in February, just before my one year BC anniversary. This time I wore a twist out, hoping the way I came with my hair styled would give the stylist (I went to the same person) some idea of how I like to wear my hair. Having my hair stretched allowed her to get through my cut much faster this time, but she did the exact same thing when it came time to style. Just separated my curls as much as possible to give me a big ass afro. And now I'm realizing she cut one side too short because it hangs shorter with my two strand twists. I was pissed that even with my hair having a full 8 months of growth, she still couldn't find a style other than a picked out afro to give me. And obviously going to her with my hair stretched was a bad idea because now I have to grow my hair out with the intention of cutting it again, just to make it even.

Sorry, for the long response, but I wanted to be accurate. This is just my experience with one stylist in one area, so things could be totally different for you. I just know I won't be going back to that stylist if I ever choose to go to that establishment again. I'll probably cut my hair myself, using two strand twists. If you do choose to go, I say wear a wash n go so they can see exactly how much your hair shrinks. HTH.

triple_spiral 05-04-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QtBoutique (Post 1947291)
I don't know what area you live in but I'm in the DC metro area and I've had a Deva cut twice at Fiddleheads Salon. The first time I went I was four months natural and wore a wash n go. The cut was done very slowly and turned out nice and even all around. The styling, however, was abysmal. There was no curl definition to be found in my whole head and the Deva Care products made my hair feel waxy. It seemed like the stylist just thought, "She's Black. She likes Afros," so she decided to pick my hair out (with her hands) and separate and fluff up my curls as much as possible. I was not happy. (-__-)

The second time I went was in February, just before my one year BC anniversary. This time I wore a twist out, hoping the way I came with my hair styled would give the stylist (I went to the same person) some idea of how I like to wear my hair. Having my hair stretched allowed her to get through my cut much faster this time, but she did the exact same thing when it came time to style. Just separated my curls as much as possible to give me a big ass afro. And now I'm realizing she cut one side too short because it hangs shorter with my two strand twists. I was pissed that even with my hair having a full 8 months of growth, she still couldn't find a style other than a picked out afro to give me. And obviously going to her with my hair stretched was a bad idea because now I have to grow my hair out with the intention of cutting it again, just to make it even.

Sorry, for the long response, but I wanted to be accurate. This is just my experience with one stylist in one area, so things could be totally different for you. I just know I won't be going back to that stylist if I ever choose to go to that establishment again. I'll probably cut my hair myself, using two strand twists. If you do choose to go, I say wear a wash n go so they can see exactly how much your hair shrinks. HTH.

I had the same kind of experience this last time - whereas the first time I went I got the "standard" devachan cut (shirley temple looking curls), this last time he fluffed it up as much as possible, mussed it up and broke apart curls with his fingers, etc. Now I didn't really mind, I think having my hair look more like a fro is awesome because I struggle to get volume and it looks trendier, IMO.

Also, definitely don't alter your hair at all before going in....stretching, straightening, even heavy/elongating products......they base their cut off of what they see when you walk in, they don't restyle at all before snipping away.

triple_spiral 05-04-2012 11:16 PM

hair cut pics
 
4 Attachment(s)
So the first two were my hair before, my problems was that it was tangling every where (maybe heat damage from over-diffusing), very frizzy, super super flat on top and in the back. And the shape was very blah and boring and triangular.

The post pics are after my first time washing and styling it myself the next day. I did freak a little about having it so short again, but my stylist and I talked mostly about giving me more volume and layers and shape, length was never a priority for me. Also it's been so hot today that I was glad to have the hair off! Also, though he did take alot off (I can't pull it back into a ponytail anymore!) people say it doesn't look that much shorter, though maybe they're just humoring me lol

Overall I'm very happy with it. If it grows out as well as my last devacut I shouldn't need another for about 8 or 9 months....

Alice_42 05-06-2012 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triple_spiral (Post 1947578)
So the first two were my hair before, my problems was that it was tangling every where (maybe heat damage from over-diffusing), very frizzy, super super flat on top and in the back. And the shape was very blah and boring and triangular.

The post pics are after my first time washing and styling it myself the next day. I did freak a little about having it so short again, but my stylist and I talked mostly about giving me more volume and layers and shape, length was never a priority for me. Also it's been so hot today that I was glad to have the hair off! Also, though he did take alot off (I can't pull it back into a ponytail anymore!) people say it doesn't look that much shorter, though maybe they're just humoring me lol

Overall I'm very happy with it. If it grows out as well as my last devacut I shouldn't need another for about 8 or 9 months....

Looks great! I'm starting to get really excited for this :)


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:58 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2011 NaturallyCurly.com