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Old 06-12-2012, 09:16 PM   #1
 
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Default A really good moisturizing conditioner

I have 4a/4b/4c hair. My hair is thick, course, and dense. My problem is that I cannot find a conditioner that can penetrate and moisturize my hair. The products just feels like they are just sitting on my hair like they dont moisturize but don't strip it either. I have tried almost all products on the ground such as shea moisture, assuie, tresseme, V05 (hate it feels like water), garner fructis, creme of nature, hair mayo (home made one and one from sally's) and etc. I mostly try ground products because I am a college curly on a budge. Has anybody tried a really good moisturizing conditioner?? SN: because I live in a small area there are only certain products that they have and even in the surrounding areas
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:51 PM   #2
 
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I had the same problem a few months back getting the same mediocre results when using store brand products or even stuff from health stores that had all natural ingredients. I'm also at university so it was getting very very frustrating!!
I bought the science of black hair book just to see if I really was on the right track in terms of understanding my hair. Anywho, in the products section there were different recommendations for hair products.
The key thing I took away from that section was to stick to one brand of hair care products (if u could)that balanced your moisture and protein well.
So I bought the elucence brand and my hair has been amazing since then.
The moisture conditioner by that brand is THE best conditioner I've ever used for my hair. The protein conditioner is even better!! I have 4b more 4c type curls (or non-curls), so moisture was defo needed. I also realised that my hair responded better to the first sets on ingredients being an infusion rather than just the bog standard 'water, cetly alcohol..." Etc. I didn't realise this untill I used hello hydration and Avalon where my hair felt yucky for that week Lool.

One question to also ask: how would you describe your porosity?

Another thing I've started to do now is to mix my moisture conditioner with acv or if I do a protein dc ill mix it up again.
my hair is more sheeny, bouncy, defined and healthier looking.
I can attest that to both the change in conditioner, getting my balance right and chucking acv into the mix.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:29 AM   #3
 
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sounds like you need to clarify and then try one conditioner afterwards


I would suggest Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose conditioner
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:23 PM   #4
 
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I really like Dessert Essence Coconut Conditioner. It's about $8 for 8 oz. if you buy it at Vitamin Shoppe or Whole Foods or stores like that, but if you buy it online from sites like Vitacost, it's $4 and some change.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:04 AM   #5
 
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I have low porosity hair and I usually clarify my hair one or twice a month to make sure I get all of the build up out of my hair especially since I very rarely use shampoo. I have been wanting to try Aubrey organics and Giovanni for a while now and I have heard some really good reviews about them as well. Thanks for the website I will definitely check it out. If anyone else has anymore suggestion please post.
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Maybe a porosity control conditioner would be best
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:39 PM   #7
 
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I would suggest Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose conditioner
so far it's the best conditioner i've used and i've been natural for over 10 years. i've tried a truck load of products and this is the best conditioner yet.

keep in mind, it is a horrible detangler. so if you equate good conditioner with providing good slip in the shower, this is not the conditioner for you.

if you are looking for a conditioner that will keep your hair soft after it is dry than this is the "one".

i would also suggest that your shampoo be of good quality or you may not really feel the positive affects of the honeysuckle rose conditioner. so avoid sulfates and cones.

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Old 06-20-2012, 10:49 PM   #8
 
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HERBAL ESSENCES HELLO HYDRATION.

this thing packs in moisture like craaaaazy! I love it! Im not a 4 but when I was researching to buy this, a ton of 4's on the curly Nikki forum really recommended it! An added plus-this has SO much slip it makes detangling a breeze

The down side-it has bis-aminopropyl dimethicone. This cone is CG friendly but builds up on some peoples hair (although I've heard that's rare and can be avoided by the occasional low poo)
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:22 PM   #9
 
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Try adding oils and heat to your conditioners. Do you pre poo. Also lots of natural 4's are protein sensitive so make sure to balance your moisture and protein. I luke aussie 3 minute deep conditioner.
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My hair is 4b/c, thick, coarse and dense. What I started doing is: 1st - rinsing my hair with conditioner, like VO5, or any co-wash conditioner, then rinsing it out really well, keeping it detangled; 2nd - blot hair with towel so that it's not dripping wet, to get damp hair; 3rd - putting a plastic cap on and the sitting under a heating cap or a hair dryer for 10 minutes on hot; 4th - then immediately apply a moisturizing conditioner or any deep conditioning treatment while the hair is warm.

My hair seems to absorb the conditioning properties better this way. Perhaps because the cuticle is more open.

If my hair is in need of clarifying, then I clarify first.

Also, I've found that giving my hair a protein treatment as a pre-poo, then shampooing and following with a good moisturizing treatment gets really good results.

AO Honeysuckle Rose is a great moisturizing conditioner. I often add full fat yogurt and baby banana to it. A little honey and wheat germ oil doesn't hurt either.
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:06 AM   #11
 
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For an inexpensive conditioner, I suggest Aussie Moist. But the best conditioner I've used by far has been CHI Nourish Intense Hair Masque. It is AMAZING though quite pricey.

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First, clarify. You have to start on really clean hair.

When I was having this problem, I also made sure the cuticle of my hair was open, by sitting under a heating cap for 10 minutes and then applying a good moisturizing conditioner. It seemed to take better.

Elle Pixie's blog http://www.questfortheperfectcurl had a video with hair conditioner recs. I opted for her Dominican conditioner rec: Crecio Pelo. It's available at BSS where Dominican products are sold, totally affordable. I really like this conditioner and have put it in my rotation.

As others have mentioned: AO Honeysuckle Rose is a bet. I also get results from doctoring Tresemme Naturuals Nourishing with the following ingredients, EVOO, honey, baby banana, full fat yogurt and wheat germ oil. You don't need to add a lot of these ingredients. A Tablesppon max of the EVOO, 2 T yogurt and baby banana, 1/2 teaspoon of wheat germ oil (it's very oily so be careful). I try to keep the intergrity of the conditioner and just pump it up a little.

I also like Talijah Wahjid's Herbal Enhancing Conditioner, it's yellow. It mixes well with other things.

And just plain EVOO and honey warmed and mixed.

Just make sure you clean your hair to get rid of any product build-up and do try opening the cuticle first with either a heating cap, under a hooded dryer, a hair steamer or warm hot towels and immediately applying conditioner.

You may have to condition your hair again the next wash, but you won't have to clarify for several washes.

See what happens.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:14 AM   #13
 
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I use giovanni smooth as silk conditioner. Works great! i have 4b natural hair about shoulder length and i've been using this stuff for over 1yr now, it really does work wonders. And the great part about it is..i can use ANY Shampoo (before i use the conditioner) and still be smooth and soft and easier to manage

But i will add that i also use the coconut/lime relaxer(just basically a strong conditioner) before i wash my hair

basically i mix coconut cream and a cap full of lime together(sometimes i add coconut oil, but u dont have to) and then i put it in the fridge over night..next day it is a creamy texture...you put it on your head before you wash your hair(i leave it on for 1hour with disposable shower cap covering it) but you can leave it on as long as you want, the longer the better...then i go and wash my hair(any shampoo will do but i use Head and Shoulders) and after that i put in the Giovanni Conditioner for about 30min and braid my hair into about 6 parts on my head..then i wash that out(with the braids still intact..)
For more conditioned hair i add coconut oil or "Kinky Curly Knot Today Leave in"

After my hair dries i can unbraid and style it however i please, i also think this method helps when i heat style my hair as well.
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Old 07-26-2012, 01:36 PM   #14
 
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Kenra Moisturizing Conditioner. This is an oldie but goody. I know a lot of naturals avoid it because it can be a little pricey and it is only available at salons and places like Ulta, Trade Secrets and Regis. This has been a main stay staple for me.

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Old 10-02-2012, 11:27 AM   #15
 
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Has anyone tried the Trader Joes Spa Nourish???!

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Old 10-03-2012, 09:11 PM   #16
 
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I have tried quite a few brands but I always end right back at herbal essences hello hydration. It has the best slip for detangling but most of all my hair is left moisturized after I rinse it out. I have 4b/c hair. Aussie most and V05 did absolutely nothing for me but I use my Shea moisture restorative conditioner mixed with coconut oil as a great leave-in
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I have 4a/4b/4c hair. My hair is thick, course, and dense. My problem is that I cannot find a conditioner that can penetrate and moisturize my hair. The products just feels like they are just sitting on my hair like they dont moisturize but don't strip it either. I have tried almost all products on the ground such as shea moisture, assuie, tresseme, V05 (hate it feels like water), garner fructis, creme of nature, hair mayo (home made one and one from sally's) and etc. I mostly try ground products because I am a college curly on a budge. Has anybody tried a really good moisturizing conditioner?? SN: because I live in a small area there are only certain products that they have and even in the surrounding areas
Which SHea moisture conditioner have you tried?
I have 4A/4B hair and I use the Raw Shea Butter Restorative conditioner
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HERBAL ESSENCES HELLO HYDRATION.

this thing packs in moisture like craaaaazy! I love it! Im not a 4 but when I was researching to buy this, a ton of 4's on the curly Nikki forum really recommended it! An added plus-this has SO much slip it makes detangling a breeze

The down side-it has bis-aminopropyl dimethicone. This cone is CG friendly but builds up on some peoples hair (although I've heard that's rare and can be avoided by the occasional low poo)
Hello Hydration is awesome! I definitely recommend, too.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:03 AM   #19
 
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Im sorry to hear that. I swear by shea moister but i notice it didnt work for you. My sis has your same issue she said kckt worked for her

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