Hairdresser Vent

Ugh, Have you ever had a hairdresser that thinks they know your hair better than you do. What is worse is this was my second time in five years going to this guy. He's great in that he can cut and color and he does take care of your hair well while you are there. But the rest I think is just his opinion. He told me the products I am using are making my hair very dry. How do you know if this is the first time you seen me? Maybe my hair is always this way OR it could be the products he used on me; all products I've used before and am not fond of. Before washing my hair he didn't say anything about it. But after washing it he said, " what do you wash your hair with?" I said donna marie shampoo, it's non-sulfate. he then said, oh sounds very drying, I have a shampoo I'll recommend. I'm thinking to myself you've never heard of it and haven't seen the ingredients so how does it sound drying? So then he applies Redken all soft as a DC and then finally Jane carter replenishing conditioner as an hair rinse. While trimming my hair while the JC was on he said now I can feel how dry your hair is the leave in you are using (taliah waajid bodifier) is drying your hair out. I will recommend some products for you.

Anyway when I go to checkout. He has Redken all soft, JC replnishing conditioner, JC hair mist leave in, deva care shampoo and miss jessies butter cream

I tell him I'm not buying the mist I already have some oyin frank juice at home. He says you need to do a complete overhaul of your products they are drying your hair out. I said I'll just take the shampoo. I'll think about the Miss jessies buttercreme at a later time.

Now don't get me wrong. I expect a hairdresser to make recommendations but you don't know my hair well. You are not familar enough with the products I am using to bash them. I have been natural for a longtime. I know what my hair does and does not like. He tells me my hair will curl up better with more moisture. One, I'm not obsessed with curl definition. I think he thinks that non defined curls means your hair is too dry or damaged in some way. Yes, my hair is a little dry. Always has been but I think it has more to do with my texture than anything. Some people confuse texture with dryness. Oftentimes I'm quite satisfired with how my hair feels. It isn't dry like a brillo or anything. It's soft to the touch but not silky if that makes sense. Frankly it was probably that JC replenishing conditioner that dried my hair out. I tried her mist and hated it, no way was he gonna get me to buy that...now that did dry my hair out.

Have you had hairdressers recommend products to you that you know won't do a thing? No matter how much you try to tell them, this is your hair and nothing is wrong with it.

I guess I'll keep going to him but he's expecting me to try all this products and come back so he can see how my hair is doing. I have no intentions of changing my entire regimen. Because I like the way my hair feels and I like the way it looks. I just don't want to hear it when I go back. I know my hair is fine. Just cut it, color it and style it dude! Sorry, I think I was a little insulted. I don't want this man to think that I'm about to change my stuff or buy the products I want him to buy. By going to him my hair is gonna be exactly the same since my regimen at home will be the same. I hope he doesn't try to make me think my hair is unhealthy every visit!
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IMO, if you are displeased with your hairdresser in ANY WAY, I think you should move on to a new one. I understand he makes your hair look good - he makes loyal customers by having them be pleased with the results. However, if he is using products you don't particularly care for, either you let him know or you don't go to him for services. Unless he's doing your hair for free, I really think this guy is a no-go.

A red flag went up for me when you said that you told him about your non-sulfate shampoo and he said it was drying. If I understood you correctly, you told him it was a non-sulfate. Non-sulfates aren't necessarily super moisturizing, but they definitely aren't drying! It seems he doesn't know what he is talking about in that regard.


In short, this particular stylist/ hairdresser isn't right for your hair based on your description.
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You took the words right out of my mouth, LaCurlyMariposa.

And I would add that finding a hairdresser that styles your hair well is not necessarily the same as finding one that takes care of your hair well. If you really like the way he styles, cuts and colors your hair then I would ignore his nonsense, nod and smile then get up out of his chair with your fly style/cut/color and enjoy it with him to never see you again until you're ready for another styling session.

I would take none of his product recommendations (as it appears he knows nothing about what YOUR hair likes) and either find another hairdresser who can truly take care of your hair where it will thrive or do it yourself.

Sounds like you're doing a pretty good job on your own with your hair, why bother with a hairdresser at all? I haven't been to one in years and don't plan to go to one anytime soon but that's just me.

At the same time, I also understand wanting a certain look and needing someone else with higher hair styling skills than you may possess to give it to you.

Either way, I would stop going as LaCurlyMariposa said or tune him
out when you do go for a means to an end. You know?

Sorry you had such a rotten experience.

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The reason I dont go to stylists any more is that so many of them have a one head fits all approach. Redken and MJ both have silicones and MJ has mineral oil which my hair hates. Im not accussing but is it possible this man has an arrangement with these companies and was asked to push their products? Especially if he doesnt know "your" hair well it seems odd he would be so sure what would work. I could see if he gave you a few possibilities try but saying a particular product will definitely work sounds sketchy. We know on the boards there is no product that everyone's hair likes.
How is he gonna talk about how dry your hair is after he shampoo's your hair? Did it not occur to him that maybe the shampoo he used played a role in how your hair felt? Even the other products he used subsequently.

I think you should stop going to him.
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IMO, if you are displeased with your hairdresser in ANY WAY, I think you should move on to a new one. I understand he makes your hair look good - he makes loyal customers by having them be pleased with the results. However, if he is using products you don't particularly care for, either you let him know or you don't go to him for services. Unless he's doing your hair for free, I really think this guy is a no-go.

A red flag went up for me when you said that you told him about your non-sulfate shampoo and he said it was drying. If I understood you correctly, you told him it was a non-sulfate. Non-sulfates aren't necessarily super moisturizing, but they definitely aren't drying! It seems he doesn't know what he is talking about in that regard.


In short, this particular stylist/ hairdresser isn't right for your hair based on your description.
Originally Posted by LaCurlyMariposa
You are so right. I think I should be completely satisfied in every way. I guess the search continues.



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You took the words right out of my mouth, LaCurlyMariposa.

And I would add that finding a hairdresser that styles your hair well is not necessarily the same as finding one that takes care of your hair well. If you really like the way he styles, cuts and colors your hair then I would ignore his nonsense, nod and smile then get up out of his chair with your fly style/cut/color and enjoy it with him to never see you again until you're ready for another styling session.

I would take none of his product recommendations (as it appears he knows nothing about what YOUR hair likes) and either find another hairdresser who can truly take care of your hair where it will thrive or do it yourself.

Sounds like you're doing a pretty good job on your own with your hair, why bother with a hairdresser at all? I haven't been to one in years and don't plan to go to one anytime soon but that's just me.

At the same time, I also understand wanting a certain look and needing someone else with higher hair styling skills than you may possess to give it to you.

Either way, I would stop going as LaCurlyMariposa said or tune him
out when you do go for a means to an end. You know?

Sorry you had such a rotten experience.

Ciao!
Originally Posted by belwillcoily
You are right. I either need to suck it up and let his bad advice go in one ear and out the other or just find someone one new which i'm leaning towards.



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Yeah miss jessies is not a quality product in my opinion but he loves them. Jane carter is high quality but does nothing for my hair. You are right about the one size fits all approach.

The reason I dont go to stylists any more is that so many of them have a one head fits all approach. Redken and MJ both have silicones and MJ has mineral oil which my hair hates. Im not accussing but is it possible this man has an arrangement with these companies and was asked to push their products? Especially if he doesnt know "your" hair well it seems odd he would be so sure what would work. I could see if he gave you a few possibilities try but saying a particular product will definitely work sounds sketchy. We know on the boards there is no product that everyone's hair likes.
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That's what got me! I really the jc replenishing conditioner dried me too. But honestly when I felt my hair it felt drier than when I came in but still okay to me. My hair will never be silky soft.

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I was like you. I never went to the hairdresser because I do styles just as good or better so why pay? I even did my own trims and color. However, sense I decided on blond highlights I thought that was better left in the hands of the professional. If I didn't have these highlights we wouldn't evenbe having this conversation cuz I'd.still be doing my hair at home. Lol
You took the words right out of my mouth, LaCurlyMariposa.

And I would add that finding a hairdresser that styles your hair well is not necessarily the same as finding one that takes care of your hair well. If you really like the way he styles, cuts and colors your hair then I would ignore his nonsense, nod and smile then get up out of his chair with your fly style/cut/color and enjoy it with him to never see you again until you're ready for another styling session.

I would take none of his product recommendations (as it appears he knows nothing about what YOUR hair likes) and either find another hairdresser who can truly take care of your hair where it will thrive or do it yourself.

Sounds like you're doing a pretty good job on your own with your hair, why bother with a hairdresser at all? I haven't been to one in years and don't plan to go to one anytime soon but that's just me.

At the same time, I also understand wanting a certain look and needing someone else with higher hair styling skills than you may possess to give it to you.

Either way, I would stop going as LaCurlyMariposa said or tune him
out when you do go for a means to an end. You know?

Sorry you had such a rotten experience.

Ciao!
Originally Posted by belwillcoily


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