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Old 08-03-2012, 03:09 PM   #1
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I've got about 3 inch hair right now and lately I've been styling it with just leave in conditioner and different oils like olive or coconut. I ordered some Eco styler olive oil gel and got it in the mail today and after using it I've noticed that my hair doesn't react very well to gel. Is anyone else like this??? When I style my hair with gel it looks really good initially and then as it dries it just starts to poof and frizz up......but when I just use the leave in for styling although I don't get as much definition as with the gel, my hair maintains the same look throughout and doesn't poof and frizz up as it dries like with the gel.

So what should I do??? I'd like to maintain more of the initial definition that I get from the gel without getting the frizzy puff later on. So, for now I'll just continue to use the leave in and sacrifice some definition, but does anyone have any advice??
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:20 PM   #2
 
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Maybe you're just reacting to THAT particular gel? My hair hates ecostyler and la looks, and I eventually realized ita because of the protein. The only cheap gel I can use is la Bella (I think that's he name?) but it took me a while to find that out, and even then it dries me out more than I like so I go with garnier more often than not. You might just have to experiment with products for a while
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What method do you use to apply the gel?

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Old 08-03-2012, 03:31 PM   #4
 
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It could be the gel or the method. I know in my case my hair doesn't like olive oil itself when I'm styling with gel, it always frizzes and looks icky. If I do use any oils is after the gel and very little coconut oil slightly brushed over it for a little shine. I pretty much have cut out the oil part though unless I want a little frizz that day.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:44 PM   #5
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Oh, this is the 3rd gel I've used, sorry I should have been more clear about that. I used to rock an s curl but the two different gels that used to work on my hair back then don't work now and result in a worse look than the Eco gel.
I think I'm moving in the right direction with the Eco cause it does better than the other two I've tried but still not to where I'd want.

Anyhow the way I applied it is.......After I got out the shower this morning I put on some leave in conditioner and a little olive oil, then like 3-4 hours later when I was leaving the house I sprayed my hair with my olive oil and water mixture and then once it was wet enough I put the Eco on there. Maybe too many different products at once on my hair????
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:08 PM   #6
 
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I just did a pH test on the OO EcoStyler and its 6.0. Maybe thats the issue.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:27 PM   #7
 
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I just did a pH test on the OO EcoStyler and its 6.0. Maybe thats the issue.
6 is fine. The ph of hair is generally between 4.5 - 5.5 range. Hair products with the ph between 5 - 7 range are best.


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Old 08-03-2012, 08:48 PM   #8
 
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What is your porosity? That could affect whether your hair prefers wet or damp styling. I prefer just conditioner and oil styling but in the summer humidity i need more. My hair only likes damp stying so the issue would be I'd have to blot to get my li to absorb then later reintroduce water because the heavier gels need plenty of water to spred over hair. So gels were difficult for me at first. What finally dawned on me is than thinner consistency gels work better for me because I can apply them to damp hair. So i like going heavy on li then apply light gel. I got a sample of Kynx gel and it was the ideal consistency, not total liquid but not thick. Were it not for the mo and pvp which became an issue bc of lint sticking in my hair I would buy it. But I really like flaxseed gel. I accidentally made mine runnier than usual recently and got amazing results. Have you tried curl creams? I really like Roots of Natue coil creme because it is a little runny and work perfect on my hair over li.
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:21 PM   #9
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I'm not really sure what my porosity is, I read a little about different porosity tests but didn't think it was too important so I overlooked it. I've tried a curly pudding, just one, and it was ok.....it didn't leave my hair as frizzy as the gel when it dried but I still preferred the way the leave in worked in comparison to the pudding so I haven't used that in a few weeks. It's still lying around here somewhere though, I might give it another try.
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:34 PM   #10
 
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I like really liquidy gels.... Paul Mitchell super sculpt does well for me.

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Old 08-03-2012, 11:12 PM   #11
 
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I'm not really sure what my porosity is, I read a little about different porosity tests but didn't think it was too important so I overlooked it. I've tried a curly pudding, just one, and it was ok.....it didn't leave my hair as frizzy as the gel when it dried but I still preferred the way the leave in worked in comparison to the pudding so I haven't used that in a few weeks. It's still lying around here somewhere though, I might give it another try.
Are you saying you used the pudding instead of the leave in? My hair would never go for that. I always use li under my stylers and creams, puddings, gels, ect are all stylers for me. I know some people used the Let's Jam Custard without li but I wouldn't even try it.
And porosity is VERY important. It will affect what techniques will work for you in styling, conditioning ect. I was one of those people who kept buying more products thinking things didn't work for me because every sat on my hair and didnt absorb. Then I found out in some cases it is not the product but the way I applied it or that I didnt open the cuticle first to get my hair ready to absorb.
Did you really dismiss porosity?? It is a little disheartening sharing experiences and advice when so many people come on here asking about "what is my curl type?" and then blow off porosity when we are constantly telling people that porosity is more important. I honestly think everyone should at least try to figure out their hair properties before asking for advice on a problem because then we can better try to help.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:45 PM   #12
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What's a good test for porosity???
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:53 AM   #13
 
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A good test is taking a few strands of hair and putting it in some water for a minute or two... how it sinks or floats will tell you the porosity of your hair... if it floats on top then you have low porosity because it takes longer for the water to penetrate the hair shaft... and same if it sinks.. high porosity because the hair sucks up water.


Also, I had issues finding a good gel myself but I learned I can actually use ANY gel if I also spray my hair with water and vegetable glycerin... NO crunch.. NO residue..and curls that are soft and defined yet still can hold to the next day.
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:59 PM   #14
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Ok thanks, I'll try that tonight. I think I really just need to find a gel that works with my hair, I'm sure it's just the ones I've tried so far haven't been the best for my hair.
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Oh, this is the 3rd gel I've used, sorry I should have been more clear about that. I used to rock an s curl but the two different gels that used to work on my hair back then don't work now and result in a worse look than the Eco gel.
I think I'm moving in the right direction with the Eco cause it does better than the other two I've tried but still not to where I'd want.

Anyhow the way I applied it is.......After I got out the shower this morning I put on some leave in conditioner and a little olive oil, then like 3-4 hours later when I was leaving the house I sprayed my hair with my olive oil and water mixture and then once it was wet enough I put the Eco on there. Maybe too many different products at once on my hair????
Try it without adding more oil and water to your hair, but if you want your hair to be damp when adding the gel, apply the gel sooner after showering. Maybe leave out the oil after the leave-in and add it last, on top of the gel instead.
I don't really think you need to oil your hair twice in one morning.
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:19 PM   #16
 
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you're not the only one. Any gel I use make my hair look worse and feel horrible!! Besides, i don't really need gel anyway. so don't worry, gel dries hair out anyway
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:39 PM   #17
 
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I swear by Eco Blue, Eco Pink, KBN's Gel...none of these dry my hair out. Eco Olive Oil and Argan Oil...were too strong and dried my hair something horrible.

I only use a moisturizing leave-in which also helps to keep my hair from drying crunchy.

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