Kimmaytube's new hair products

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I just can't. She irks me too.
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I'm (unfortunately) a huge "judge a product by its packaging" type of gal and the packaging is just too cute... I will most likely purchase a product or two sometime next week. I also like most of the ingredients, too so.... haha

When I order and receive them, I'll have a review up on my blog.. In case anyone is wondering- woo! 8D
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Her product names and packaging are so darn cute! Congrats to her!
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I think the bottles are very cute. And the ingredients look acceptable. I wish her all the best.. she is annoying but a sista is DOING the darn thing. I gotta give her that much. I doubt if I buy the products though.
I dnt like her or her attitude sooo she wnt be getting my money
o_O...... As long as she provides good customer service, ships within her policy's time frame and provides a product that's accurate in it's description.....I don't have to be e-pals with an owner in order for me to purchase from their product line. Based off of correspondence there are many product line owners who's personality I don't particually like, but they provide a quality product and good cs so I don't care. I just don't understand that type thinking but everyone's diff I suppose.. If she's a professional business woman it would stay strictly business and no one would have to deal with her personality. ...so I would give it a try if I had to choose from the more expensive online products.

One thing I'm slightly annoyed by is the influx of youtubers (who did product reviews for other product lines, made recipes using other product lines, etc) popping up with their own line. Like honestly.....it seems like everyone and their mama who can get access to a stick blender BTMS and coconut oil has a "product line".
People tickle me...so many have little to no moral standards when it comes to who they buy from or "stick" up for.

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o_O...... As long as she provides good customer service, ships within her policy's time frame and provides a product that's accurate in it's description.....I don't have to be e-pals with an owner in order for me to purchase from their product line. Based off of correspondence there are many product line owners who's personality I don't particually like, but they provide a quality product and good cs so I don't care. I just don't understand that type thinking but everyone's diff I suppose.. If she's a professional business woman it would stay strictly business and no one would have to deal with her personality. ...so I would give it a try if I had to choose from the more expensive online products.

One thing I'm slightly annoyed by is the influx of youtubers (who did product reviews for other product lines, made recipes using other product lines, etc) popping up with their own line. Like honestly.....it seems like everyone and their mama who can get access to a stick blender BTMS and coconut oil has a "product line".
Originally Posted by Lovemenappy
A lot of consumers think like you. I don't understand that.

In business, it's VERY easy to turn off customers, with your demeanor. I don't buy from folks I don't "like", in the sense of finding them pleasant and professional with their online/real space presentation. There are a LOT of folks like me. Lots. Please believe me. Sales people understand what I'm talking about. They may not come out and say, "I would never buy from her, because of her attitude and the way she talks/has talked to her subscribers". They'll just not purchase from her. Those are the kind of potential customers you can't account for - you'll never know what you could have done, had you been more concerned about your online presence.

There's simply too many choices - and most of these chicks breakin' out with product lines aren't doing ANYTHING revolutionary - including the woman we're discussing.

I don't have to buy from anybody I "don't like", cuz there's too many good products out there, made by people who understand the importance of presentation - self, and product. I "like" them in the sense that they stay out of/don't create online drama, handle customer disputes professionally (with a "smile"), and get my goods to me, in a timely manner.

That being sad, I wish Kim Love much success - seriously. If I were new in the product purchase game, I'd give her some dough. Her packaging is very nice, and I'm sure folks won't have to worry about "bleeding labels", products growing mold after 30 days, and some of the other nonsense that most of us product junkies have experienced, after deciding to give an indie company some play. She's tight,in that respect, and I'm sure she'll do well.
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^^^

All of that. Darcy's Botanicals is a big hit or miss for me, but because Lysandra has a beautiful personality, wonderful customer service, and great business ethic, I always try to buy at least 2 products a year just to show my support. For me it's not just about the products but the person behind it. Kim's products can grow my hair an extra inch a month, make it as soft as clouds, and smell like rainbows and gumdrops and I STILL wouldn't buy from her. It's a matter of principle.
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I'm a pj who still hasn't found a good leave in, so unless the reviews are bad, she'll eventually get my money. A vendor has to say something really offensive (imo) or is a Nazi or talks bad about my mama, for me to write their product off. Personality means zip to me, if you have the goods that's all my hair cares about. But that's just me.
What exactly did she do? Did she skin a cat?

I watch her videos and the pH ones are interesting. The videos look well made, professional and clean.

Most people would get annoyed of you continuing to go on their channel if you don't believe their views.
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What exactly did she do? Did she skin a cat?

I watch her videos and the pH ones are interesting. The videos look well made, professional and clean.

Most people would get annoyed of you continuing to go on their channel if you don't believe their views.
Originally Posted by HipsterSoul
Folks have been saying for years now that it's not the quality of her videos but her attitude to viewers and commenters. There are more than a few people here who were blocked(myself included) for doing nothing other than making a suggestion, asking a question, or making a slight correction. Disagreements not being necessary. Then there was the drama between her, AE, and taren where she showed herself being less of a professional. She's has shown herself to be prideful, arrogant, disrespectful, and downright nasty to youtubers and viewers alike. Her videos may be informative, her hair may be healthy, and yes her bottles in the haircare line are cute and probably work but her attitude is a major turnoff for a lot of folks as you read in this thread.
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What exactly did she do? Did she skin a cat?

I watch her videos and the pH ones are interesting. The videos look well made, professional and clean.

Most people would get annoyed of you continuing to go on their channel if you don't believe their views.
Originally Posted by HipsterSoul
Folks have been saying for years now that it's not the quality of her videos but her attitude to viewers and commenters. There are more than a few people here who were blocked(myself included) for doing nothing other than making a suggestion, asking a question, or making a slight correction. Disagreements not being necessary. Then there was the drama between her, AE, and taren where she showed herself being less of a professional. She's has shown herself to be prideful, arrogant, disrespectful, and downright nasty to youtubers and viewers alike. Her videos may be informative, her hair may be healthy, and yes her bottles in the haircare line are cute and probably work but her attitude is a major turnoff for a lot of folks as you read in this thread.
Originally Posted by soleilmoncur
Oh, ok. I see where people might say she's arrogant. I never comment on her videos or read the comments so I don't notice.
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...and one more thing: It is never in the best interest of the owner of a product line to think, "My customers don't have to LIKE me..."

People will buy from you (as soleilmoncur already mentioned) just because they like you. Rashida (b.a.s.k), for instance - I will always buy from her. She can basically do no wrong, unless she totally goes out of her character, or she starts makin' garbage - I highly doubt that either will happen.

She made a strong impression. She's a nice lady. She's professional, courteous, and concentrates on handling her business. In the short time that she has been in business, she's managed to raise the bar (in EVERY area) and these new kids on the block better recognize. I'm pretty much going to try whatever she formulates, because I like her and I trust her. She has a customer for life.

There's all types of ways to generate business. Being "liked" is one of the easiest. So, a smart business person doesn't blow one of the easiest ways to get people to part with their loot. For the record, I'm not one of the people who are overly concerned with "supporting black owned businesses". I buy from the folks who want my business.
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I guess for me, I see it as someone who is trying to make a name with a new brand for natural hair. On top of that, it's like buying from a small, locally owned business. Just a natural helping another natural.

I can't go by heresay. I have to witness for myself, her snapping at people. Otherwise her videos seem professional and do the job.
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I guess for me, I see it as someone who is trying to make a name with a new brand for natural hair. On top of that, it's like buying from a small, locally owned business. Just a natural helping another natural.

I can't go by heresay. I have to witness for myself, her snapping at people. Otherwise her videos seem professional and do the job.
Originally Posted by HipsterSoul
You can search on this site and youtube since you don't want to go by "hearsay". But if you're so determined to buy from her then even that probably won't change your mind.

So many folks want to "buy black" or buy locally to support their own regardless, but for me to put it frank, it's quite stupid. There are too many great companies out there who are not a black brand to waste money and time on folks who know that there are people who are going to throw money at them just because they're black and natural, and not give 2 cents on being a professional brand. We have ladies mixing up rogaine and shea butter and saying it's safe to use on children, selling pink oil at $50, repackaging someone else's product and selling it as their own, using bases and then marketing it as "homemade" and marking the price up 300%, or having just deplorable products and customer service. Why should I have to settle for that just to say that I'm supporting local black businesses? I know my worth and NC is too full of information for me to buy from folks just because they're black.

But it's not my money.
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What exactly did she do? Did she skin a cat?

I watch her videos and the pH ones are interesting. The videos look well made, professional and clean.

Most people would get annoyed of you continuing to go on their channel if you don't believe their views.
Originally Posted by HipsterSoul
Thanks for asking. I was wondering myself with all the talk about morals, but it seems to be personality issues which is reflective of both people engaged in the conflict.

I don't know the personalities of most of the people I buy hair/beauty products/clothes/shoes/accessories from because they do not have 100+ videos posted on youtube and had to interact with some of the people on there. I have seen all sorts of youtubers get snippy on there, but I don't blame them because I can only imagine what they have to put up with regularly.

I don't think it is stupid to support black-owned businesses. There are enough producing great products AND offering great customer service that it is a false dichotomy to imply it is either black-owned businesses or good customer service. I prefer to buy from a black-owned business, but I base my purchases on what works, what I am willing to spend, and what is convenient for me. If all three are a black-owned business, I am a happy camper.

If the reviews from someone with my similar hair properties are good and I am in a buying mood, I might pick something up. She has not done anything to me or anyone I know or love.

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I think this needs to be said:

First off, folks were asked would they buy Kim's products. Period. Some said they would (yay!) and some said they wouldn't (yay!). That's the way it goes.

My reasons for not buying don't have to be anyone else's. Nobody is trying to get anyone not to buy from Kim. However, I think things get stuck when others feel another person's reasons have to be weighed on their personal scale. They do not. For some, Kim's behavior is "hearsay". For others, like me, it's direct experience. Either way, do you. It's your money, your convictions, your hair.

Finally, nobody said it's "stupid" to buy from black businesses. I said that it's not my primary consideration when I decide to purchase. If I'm black, and the person I'm considering buying from is black, seems like the consideration for the other should be mutual, if the "black card" is going to be on the table. Of course there are black companies that give good customer service, and make great products - I gave an example of one in this thread.

As a black person, I would never rest in the faulty assumption that my "blackness" automatically gives me a pass (or should give me a pass) with another person...because that other person is also black.

Today, you need to dig deep and do your best, and expect that level of commitment to make the difference in whether or not you succeed.

Best of luck to Kim...I'm out.
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You can search on this site and youtube since you don't want to go by "hearsay". But if you're so determined to buy from her then even that probably won't change your mind.

So many folks want to "buy black" or buy locally to support their own regardless, but for me to put it frank, it's quite stupid. There are too many great companies out there who are not a black brand to waste money and time on folks who know that there are people who are going to throw money at them just because they're black and natural, and not give 2 cents on being a professional brand.
Originally Posted by soleilmoncur
I think this needs to be said:

First off, folks were asked would they buy Kim's products. Period. Some said they would (yay!) and some said they wouldn't (yay!). That's the way it goes.

My reasons for not buying don't have to be anyone else's. Nobody is trying to get anyone not to buy from Kim. However, I think things get stuck when others feel another person's reasons have to be weighed on their personal scale. They do not. For some, Kim's behavior is "hearsay". For others, like me, it's direct experience. Either way, do you. It's your money, your convictions, your hair.

Finally, nobody said it's "stupid" to buy from black businesses. I said that it's not my primary consideration when I decide to purchase. If I'm black, and the person I'm considering buying from is black, seems like the consideration for the other should be mutual, if the "black card" is going to be on the table. Of course there are black companies that give good customer service, and make great products - I gave an example of one in this thread.

As a black person, I would never rest in the faulty assumption that my "blackness" automatically gives me a pass (or should give me a pass) with another person...because that other person is also black.

Today, you need to dig deep and do your best, and expect that level of commitment to make the difference in whether or not you succeed.

Best of luck to Kim...I'm out.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
Agree with all parts of your comment.

Everyone needs to do what works for them and not imply others have no standards/morals because they purchase from people they have never had problems with.

As for the 'stupid' line, it was from the comment made by soleilmoncur a few posts before mine. I have quoted the first part of it in this comment.
I tried her stuff yesterday. I've only used it once so these are my first impressions. Her packaging is professional and the labels didn't scratch off in the shower.

Detangler - Nice smell, nice consistency, and decent slip. The only pre-poo I've ever used is the Shea Moisture Purification Masque. I much prefer the Shea Moisture, but I think this will work great for me as a leave-in.

Cleanser - It was thick and smelled like peppermint & tea tree. It had little foam and got my hair clean. That's pretty much all I'm looking for in a shampoo so I'm happy with it. It reminds me of that Curls Cleanser that's available at Target (can't think of the name).

Conditioner - This was nice and also had decent slip. I don't remember it smelling like anything. The consistency was thick and a little bubbly. Overall I liked the conditioner.

Leave-in - This smelled nice but had no slip and a weird consistency. It was grainy when I rubbed it in my hands, and it did nothing for my hair. I'm not sure why because all the ingredients looked nice. But with the consistency and performance I definitely won't be purchasing this again. I'm curious to see what others thought about this.

ETA: As for her attitude, I really don't have issues with her. But I'm pretty blunt myself so I probably don't see a problem with it because I can relate. The only difference is I'm not running a business where I'm (and by default my attitude is) the face of the brand. If she offended me I wouldn't purchase from her. If her customer service sucked I wouldn't purchase from her. In the end, like NEA said it's our money. I don't think anyone is telling those of us who purchased that we are stupid for buying from her. They were just stating why they wouldn't. I don't see the problem with that. I do prefer to buy black and I will pay more to buy black because I understand that with any small business it will cost more to produce a product than those producing on a grand scale. I won't buy black if the service or the product sucks though.
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