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12-28-2012, 04:22 PM
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12-28-2012, 06:34 PM
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I'm not going to henna my hair with powder, my dh gave me the saddest face. He wants no change in my hair, he told me it would be the same if I were dying my hair, he will miss it! 
I can't. I will stick to my premade glosses my hair color hasnt changed yet and my hair is so much more pliant and agreeable. Ill stick to those, less cleanup anyway. 
ETA: All your journeys sound very exciting. I am sort of living vicariously through your ayurvedic adventures so do keep posting!
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12-28-2012, 07:07 PM
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Actually except for the few grays I have which are now copper my hair color hasn't changed enough to be noticed. The first time I did henna I waited all day for someone to notice and no one ever did then or since. My hair is natully reddish brown and it still is. Also the color depends on what kind you use. You might also try Cassia aka Neutral Henna.
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12-29-2012, 01:47 AM
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A compliment of the highest order!
You aren't kidding. Henna is one incredibly messy adventure, as I recall. If I weren't so into coloring my hair and doing it naturally, I'd take a pass too.
Cool! For my part, I'll be giving a henna/amla update soon 
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12-29-2012, 08:41 AM
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Last edited by ricotdorothy; 12-29-2012 at 08:43 AM.
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12-29-2012, 08:53 PM
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OH GOODIE!!!  since ive been natural there has only been one other person that said this her name is meechymonroe she is all over ytube and has a blog. You should check her out! Tell her i said hi if u do
btw THANK YOU for the compliment 
yes i cant wait for my next treatment! You will love it
hey korkscrew first off i want to thank you for your kindness its greatly appreciated  before my hair felt thirsty,lots of shedding and my scalp was itching i was in serious need of a deep treatment after the treatment my hair is silky soft  minimal to no shedding, coils are elongated .although i didnt get the highlight i wanted due to the amla powder i stll amm amazed by the results from just one treatment 
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12-30-2012, 01:04 AM
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Hey, just telling the truth about your looks  And you are most welcome, fellow curly 
Sounds like amla is acting as a really good conditioner for your hair and scalp! Terrific! Sounds like the amla darkened your hair a bit? Is that why you didn't get the highlights you wanted?
I thought amla is supposed to tighten curls, not loosen or elongate them, but you just taught me that these herbs can behave very differently on different heads.
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12-30-2012, 01:40 AM
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[QUOTE=Korkscrew;2093580] because i did the henna treatment it gave me loose curls
I just added amla powder and brahim powder to it. I didn't use gloves and my hands were brown so i am assuming the color took just didnt show visibly. Maybe it will the next treatments.
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12-30-2012, 10:50 AM
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[QUOTE=dee-nature;2093581] *Stares longingly over at my Nupur 9* No color change, you say? lol
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12-30-2012, 12:47 PM
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[QUOTE=ricotdorothy;2093652] Hey sweets i used jamila henna & mixed it. The store i bought it @ didn't carry Nupur. And i no visible color change ...thats not to say it didn't take sun hasn't been out lately so i dont know how it looks in the sunlight
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12-31-2012, 12:05 AM
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Here are the results for my first amla treatment. I really like it and over henna its less time consuming and i like how my hair looks. The curls pop,they stretch at the same time and its less drying. I wont give up on henna but i favor amla. Also i mixed brahim powder with this
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12-31-2012, 08:47 AM
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Very informative! Sounds awesome, how does your scalp feel?
ETA: That's right, get that bsl!! 
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Last edited by ricotdorothy; 12-31-2012 at 08:50 AM.
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12-31-2012, 12:14 PM
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Scalp feels clean,and refreshed. And most importantly NO itching! I really like it i always look forward to my next treatment. I havent detangled going on 2 weeks! Ricotorothy i hope to reach WL ,if not true mbl by next year. after this pic was taken last nite i gave myself a good trim i feel like i cut more than i usually do but i cant stand straggly end
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12-31-2012, 12:30 PM
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No itching? *heads to local indian grocer  * I should have though of that before, just doing a straight amla treatment. That doesn't change the color of your hair but it certainly improves the condition. I think mbl is definitely in the bag for you by next year. I have the same goal actually. I don't know if anybody else feels like this, but even though my hair is already longer than it has ever been, I still keep getting the chills as if something I do or fail to do will halt its progress. I am always looking over my shoulder...at my ends, lol.
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12-31-2012, 05:34 PM
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LOL. I meant no itchy scalp. But i feel you. my initial goal was WL by next year i set that goal when i first bcd but with trimming and mishaps its gonna cut close.
I think i will just be happy with thick healthy hair that i can see on my chest when i look down
Eta: i added EVOO to my mix too.
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01-01-2013, 05:21 AM
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Results of Henna/amla treatment
Well, I did the henna/amla treatment.
This post is long in case the details help others who are interested in doing the henna thing. Click on “My Album” to see my “Post-henna” pics. You can also check out my “Pre-henna” pics too for comparison.)
Background facts: my hair started out as a combo of dark & light brown, plus about 15-20% gray (mostly in the crown). My goal w/henna was to make my brown a dark red (like wine or burgundy), and the grays light warm auburn, to compliment my yellow-olive complexion. My hope w/adding amla was that the amla might keep the henna from loosening my curls. Decided not to use indigo with it. I figured I can always do another henna for darker color, but once it's too dark, there's no way to lighten it w/out developer or some inevitably damaging process.
Strand tests/ recipe: Did 2 batches of strand tests that oxidized over a a period of about 1.5 weeks. The recipe I chose was 4:1 henna/amla. I used Raj Twilight brand BAQ henna (2.6% lawsone content). I left it on for 4 hr.s. It was a bit of a mistake in the end, because my favored strand test showed my desired hair color (even 1 week later), but in reality the gray hairs came out darker than the strand test strands. Too dark for my taste.
Applying henna: Gotta say, about the smell … lots of folks say it's like hay, freshly mowed grass, Mother Earth itself or some sexy, back to basics scent. Nah. Go to your freezer and crack open a box of frozen spinach. Let it thaw and take a whiff. That's the smell. That plus the encrusted ass of a cow. So I added ground coriander powder to the mix (as advised) and it was like spritzing a pile of puppy doodles with a couple droplets of weak cologne. I mean, henna smells like henna, plus whatever you add to it. There is no escape unless you use nose plugs. … Stirring my henna w/distilled water: did it the wrong way. Emptied the packets of powder first then poured the water in all at once. Bad idea. I never got all the lumps out, even 1.7 hr.s of stirring, later. Should have gradually mixed the water into the powder.
… Whatever room you choose for application could resemble a 2-week old crime scene when you're done, though the one thing I did right was to apply the henna evenly and w/smooth movements so that most of the mess stayed around the bathroom sink. Some of the mess comes from touching things in the room you had no idea you were going to need to touch along the way. … Wore gloves and a finger on one of them broke leaving an ungodly black and orange stain I still have, weeks later, though it has faded a lot. … Wearing the henna turned out to be the easiest, albeit runniest step.
Rinse out: Maybe it's the brand of henna, but it was super easy to rinse out the henna. The amla was a bit gritty but came out easily too. I understand this is not always a pleasant experience for ppl. But this was one step that seemed okay for me. After the rinse out, I just went ahead and added LI conditioner and some JOICO gel to lock in the moisture. (May have used a touch of KCCC.)
Result: Can't say my hair dried any faster than usual (as it has for others post-henna). The color was perfectly bright on my grays at first, though I knew it would darken over time – it just darkened too much. Can barely see the henna on my brown hair, unless in the sun (as expected). Got perfect gray coverage, probably from the high lawsone content. Was disappointed to find my curls loosened slightly, even w/amla on board. Some of that is because I have wavy hair mixed in to my 3b/c curls. It made them “hang” more when I've always wanted root lift. Ugh. I'm hoping they'll recover in a couple weeks. … Consolation?: VOLUME GALORE!! My hair already has that, but wow, my hair was a mighty mane that day I washed the henna out! I had HIH for several days. But a couple washes later my volume returned to normal. (It's okay hair, I love you just the way you are lol.) … I will only henna my roots in the future to avoid further loosening of curls on the rest of my head. And I will mix the Raj henna + amla with conditioner to dilute the strength of the henna so my grays are more orangy-brassy. When I run out of Raj, I will switch to something like Punjabi Prime, a weaker henna (1.7% lawsone), for brassier, lighter look on grays. Not sure why, but that brassy look on me just seems better than a darker, ambivalent deep orange-red. … My hair does look healthier and is definitely less porous. If you have questions, I will try and answer them to the best of my ability, as a relative newbie to henna
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01-02-2013, 02:14 AM
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Woow korkscrew thats one heck of review. Very detailed i must say i couldnt stop laughing @ your smell description! I personally like it but people have different reactions to scents. So did hubby help? U mentioned him helping since your hair is so long. How long did this take you.
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01-02-2013, 06:23 PM
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Dee. Glad you had a few chuckles. I wish I liked the smell too (you lucky devil). To be fair, some of my bias against the smell comes from my one and only other henna experience seven years ago. I stupidly kept applying the henna even though I was getting a migraine headache and feeling nauseous 
... I should have stopped, rinsed my hair out, grabbed some Advil and taken a nap. Instead, I got stubborn. Ended up crouched in the tub w/a half application of henna on my head and tossed up pineapple/ pepperoni pizza chunks swirling around and over my toes. I think that explains the problem tolerating henna smell or anything associated w/it. PS: Don't ask me if I kept applying the henna despite puking, because the answer is pretty disturbing. In the end I wasted my time because I had to rinse all the henna out way too early because of the weight of it on my head PLUS the migraine pain.
OK, you asked if hubby helped. Well for that 1st fiasco, he stood from a distance, wringing his hands and drumming his feet on the ground in protest ( OMG Korkscrew, that looks nasty. ... OMG what a mess! ... OMG you're gonna throw up! ... OMG and now you're gonna keep going?!?).
This time, the moment he heard the words henna and next Saturday, he whipped out his cell and blocked off the whole day in his calendar with the words "GUY'S NIGHT OUT".
As for how long it took: It took about an hour to apply, solo. I bet it'll take others less time (As you know, I have a lot of hair). How long does it take you to apply?
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01-02-2013, 08:00 PM
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*HUG* I wish I could come over and help you myself. 
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01-02-2013, 08:02 PM
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Your results are absolutely gorgeous!!!
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Your hair was already gorgeous so now I am curious!
