4B hair crisis !

I have thick coarse 4b hair , i think its 4b because the curl bend sharply , thats 4b right ?

I have medium short hair , very short by girl standards because im male i want to grow it very long ,

I first wetted my hair and apllied conditioner but I didnít apply enough water and conditioner and I kept detangling and now a section of my hair hurts , its like the feeling one someone pulled your hair in a fight and afterwards itís a burning pain , what should I do , can I repair it ?

How do i detangle very short hair ?

And How many times a day should I use a Leave in conditioner ? Im planning to purchase shea moisture leave in conditioner , what should i do if my hair feels dry hours after i apllied the leave in conditioner ?
I have thick coarse 4b hair , i think its 4b because the curl bend sharply , thats 4b right ?

I have medium short hair , very short by girl standards because im male i want to grow it very long ,

I first wetted my hair and apllied conditioner but I didnít apply enough water and conditioner and I kept detangling and now a section of my hair hurts , its like the feeling one someone pulled your hair in a fight and afterwards itís a burning pain , what should I do , can I repair it ?

How do i detangle very short hair ?

And How many times a day should I use a Leave in conditioner ? Im planning to purchase shea moisture leave in conditioner , what should i do if my hair feels dry hours after i apllied the leave in conditioner ?
Originally Posted by Dragonwell
Hi Dragonwell...

is your hair at your ears, neck, or a bit longer? Do you have enough to make a small braid or twist? Not sure what you mean by "medium short".

With 4a/4b hair, I think it helps if your hair is thoroughly saturated with water and a very rich conditioner that gives it good "slip" when you detangle...that will make it less painful to comb out. I recommend a deep conditioner or Dominican conditioner, because these are the bomb.com for detangling purposes and just general softness.


Maybe you know this already, but it also helps to comb very gently with a wide-tooth comb and keep a spray bottle filled with water on hand to dampen your strands when necessary...you can also add a bit of oil if you wish.

I've never tried Shea Moisture products, but I hear good things, esp. about the Coconut Styling Milk and the Curl Smoothie. I'm not sure how many times a day leave-in conditioner should be used, but maybe you can experiment to see what works for you. Some of the others here can advise you on that better than I can.

It can be beneficial to take a supplement like biotin if you want to grow long, healthy hair...and eat as healthy as you can. Lots of dark green veggies, fish, chicken, drink water, etc. Invest in a soft brush or a Denman brush.

Hope that helps and good luck in your journey to beautiful hair!









I have thick coarse 4b hair , i think its 4b because the curl bend sharply , thats 4b right ?

I have medium short hair , very short by girl standards because im male i want to grow it very long ,

I first wetted my hair and apllied conditioner but I didnít apply enough water and conditioner and I kept detangling and now a section of my hair hurts , its like the feeling one someone pulled your hair in a fight and afterwards itís a burning pain , what should I do , can I repair it ?

How do i detangle very short hair ?

And How many times a day should I use a Leave in conditioner ? Im planning to purchase shea moisture leave in conditioner , what should i do if my hair feels dry hours after i apllied the leave in conditioner ?
Originally Posted by Dragonwell
Hi Dragonwell...

is your hair at your ears, neck, or a bit longer? Do you have enough to make a small braid or twist? Not sure what you mean by "medium short".

With 4a/4b hair, I think it helps if your hair is thoroughly saturated with water and a very rich conditioner that gives it good "slip" when you detangle...that will make it less painful to comb out. I recommend a deep conditioner or Dominican conditioner, because these are the bomb.com for detangling purposes and just general softness.


Maybe you know this already, but it also helps to comb very gently with a wide-tooth comb and keep a spray bottle filled with water on hand to dampen your strands when necessary...you can also add a bit of oil if you wish.

I've never tried Shea Moisture products, but I hear good things, esp. about the Coconut Styling Milk and the Curl Smoothie. I'm not sure how many times a day leave-in conditioner should be used, but maybe you can experiment to see what works for you. Some of the others here can advise you on that better than I can.

It can be beneficial to take a supplement like biotin if you want to grow long, healthy hair...and eat as healthy as you can. Lots of dark green veggies, fish, chicken, drink water, etc. Invest in a soft brush or a Denman brush.

Hope that helps and good luck in your journey to beautiful hair!









Originally Posted by curlyhoneyb


Thnx so much for advising , my hair is very short is 4b dry thick curls that bends , and id say its more amber rose , i detangled in a very wrong way and now my hair is damaged and i feel pain in one section , like someone pulled my hair in a fight pain , how can i repair that type of damage , can it ever grow long ?
Hi dragon, sorry to hear about the hair crisis.
Yes, your hair can grow long. Anyone's hair can grow long, it all depends on how you care for it. Hair grows regardless, its retaining length that's the problem.
Like the above poster said, its best to have your hair saturated with water and a conditioner full of slip when you detangle. I, don't use a wide tooth comb to detangle I use my fingers. If you have the patience and time then you may want to start doing it that way. The benefits are less breakage hence more length retention.
The best way to get rid of damage is to trim the damaged hair off. Don't have to cut it all off, but do trims as the new growth comes in. I'm sure there's another way to repair damage, but that's the only way I know how. Hope this helps


Hey, I tweet about my hair journey too along with other things

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Thank you !

This is my regimen

Monday - sulfatefree shampoo - deep condition - protein treatment - leave in
Tuesday leave in
Wednesday leave in
Thursday leave in
Friday leave in
Saturday leave in
Sunday leave in

I deep condition once a weeks
Protein treatment every 2/3 weeks
Claryfing shampoo once monthly

The only thing missing is a conditioner , i thought i could just use a leave in but now i read that you must also use a conditioner , how should i incorporate it into my regimen ?
Thank you !

This is my regimen

Monday - sulfatefree shampoo - deep condition - protein treatment - leave in
Tuesday leave in
Wednesday leave in
Thursday leave in
Friday leave in
Saturday leave in
Sunday leave in

I deep condition once a weeks
Protein treatment every 2/3 weeks
Claryfing shampoo once monthly

The only thing missing is a conditioner , i thought i could just use a leave in but now i read that you must also use a conditioner , how should i incorporate it into my regimen ?
Originally Posted by Dragonwell

I use: no poo- condish- leave in- seal il (oil) - and fsg

On days I do a DC I use :
no poo -DC (let it sit for 30 min while i clean the kitchen) - rinse it out - leave in- oil- and fsg
(i simply use the DC as condish (: )

Hope i could be of help!





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Let's clarify a bit. There's no product that you have to use. If you like using leave-in, that's your deal. It's your hair, so you can use whatever products you like on it...

Anyway, ITA with the other post about cutting off the damaged parts. Also, if your hair is too short to finger comb, I would use a flexible fine/wide tooth comb (depending on whether your hair is fine or coarse or really, just personal preference) to detangle. Make sure to really saturate your hair with conditioner and water first.

And by the way, conditioner and leave-in are not necessarily different things. They're both conditioners, just for different purposes. Really, you can use your Co-wash condish (though I suppose you don't co-wash, but just low-poo) or your RO (rinse out) condish as leave-ins...

I don't know where people got the idea that leaving the conditioner in makes your hair fall out or something ridiculous like that.

Also I'd definitely look into knowing your curl properties rather than curl pattern... (helps a lot with trouble-shooting)
Hair Type: 3c, Med-High Density, Low Porosity
Low Poo: KC Come Clean
Condish: AOHR, TN (Avocado), TJ Balancing Moisture
Leave in: GDL, KBB
Curl Lotion/Gel: CHS/CK
Others: CJ Curl Rehab, Jojoba Oil


CG since '09

I don't know where people got the idea that leaving the conditioner in makes your hair fall out or something ridiculous like that.
Originally Posted by Sandi
Haha I've been wondering about this the other day. Maybe it was a common problem at our grandmas time? I don't know what what kind of ingredients they had in their condish at that time - but since it was "good" to have some uranium in your toothpaste...I can imagine where the idea of loosing hair if you don't wash out your conditioner comes from...



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Last edited by CurlyB_; 12-18-2012 at 12:41 AM.
LOL! This reminds me of how my sister-in-law once complimented me on how healthy and thick my hair looked and asked me specifically what conditioner I use. I told her Giovanni 50:50 Hydrating Calming Conditioner with oil and honey added for the DC, VO5 as my RO and Shea Moisture Restorative Care as my LI. She wrinkled up her nose like something smelled bad then told me my hair would "fall out" from using all those "white people" conditioners on my hair and from leaving conditioner in my hair instead of rinsing it out. Keep in mind, though she is natural (she heat straightens regularly), her hair looks perpetually short, thin and damaged on a good day.

On another note, I remember reading somewhere (maybe one of the forums here in CT) that before hair conditioners were invented/discovered that people applied fabric softener to their hair after shampooing then rinsed it out to help soften the hair after cleansing. I would imagine that leaving fabric softener in your hair might have some ill effects on your hair so maybe that's where the belief that leaving conditioner in your hair causes it to fall out comes from...
Me Fascina El Pelo




Low Porosity; Medium Strands; Dense
LOL! This reminds me of how my sister-in-law once complimented me on how healthy and thick my hair looked and asked me specifically what conditioner I use. I told her Giovanni 50:50 Hydrating Calming Conditioner with oil and honey added for the DC, VO5 as my RO and Shea Moisture Restorative Care as my LI. She wrinkled up her nose like something smelled bad then told me my hair would "fall out" from using all those "white people" conditioners on my hair and from leaving conditioner in my hair instead of rinsing it out. Keep in mind, though she is natural (she heat straightens regularly), her hair looks perpetually short, thin and damaged on a good day.

On another note, I remember reading somewhere (maybe one of the forums here in CT) that before hair conditioners were invented/discovered that people applied fabric softener to their hair after shampooing then rinsed it out to help soften the hair after cleansing. I would imagine that leaving fabric softener in your hair might have some ill effects on your hair so maybe that's where the belief that leaving conditioner in your hair causes it to fall out comes from...
Originally Posted by belwillcoily


How many times a week do you wet your hair ?
I don't use leave in conditioners I use a regular RO as my leave in preferably SM Restorative conditioner or Suave Almonds and Shea Butter. I don't see anything wrong in using only leave ins if your hair is thriving from them.


Hey, I tweet about my hair journey too along with other things

Oh, and my tumblr

New on my healthy hair journey and developing my regimen. Exploring my inner product junkie
LOL! This reminds me of how my sister-in-law once complimented me on how healthy and thick my hair looked and asked me specifically what conditioner I use. I told her Giovanni 50:50 Hydrating Calming Conditioner with oil and honey added for the DC, VO5 as my RO and Shea Moisture Restorative Care as my LI. She wrinkled up her nose like something smelled bad then told me my hair would "fall out" from using all those "white people" conditioners on my hair and from leaving conditioner in my hair instead of rinsing it out. Keep in mind, though she is natural (she heat straightens regularly), her hair looks perpetually short, thin and damaged on a good day.

On another note, I remember reading somewhere (maybe one of the forums here in CT) that before hair conditioners were invented/discovered that people applied fabric softener to their hair after shampooing then rinsed it out to help soften the hair after cleansing. I would imagine that leaving fabric softener in your hair might have some ill effects on your hair so maybe that's where the belief that leaving conditioner in your hair causes it to fall out comes from...
Originally Posted by belwillcoily


How many times a week do you wet your hair ?
Originally Posted by Dragonwell
Hi Dragonwell.

How many times a week I wet my hair depends on how I am wearing it. I'm a two strand twist gal a large percentage of the time. When it's time to cleanse and condition my hair for the week, I do a myriad of things to infuse my LP strands with moisture (i.e. overnight prepoo/overnight DC, moisturizing low 'poo, RO, LI, FSG and final step a very light coating of my oil mix to seal. Since my strands are LP, I don't need a lot of oil for sealing purposes.

If I go on to put my hair in two strands after my weekly cleanse and conditioning, then I don't need to wet my hair again until I wash and condition again which for me is every 5 to 7 days. If I wear my hair out like in twist out for instance, I do wet it very lightly every day until I wash and condition again. The effects of all the moisturizing don't last as long when my hair is not in twists. The twists themselves lock in moisture. When my hair is out, I lose the moisture locking feature and it can dry out quickly thus become brittle and dry and start to break.

My son's hair is about 5 to 6 inches long and he wears it in a 'fro most of the time. Sometimes I put it in flat twists. He wets his hair everyday when he wears his 'fro and his hair stays moisturized for drama and pain free pick out sessions when he styles it.

HTH!
Me Fascina El Pelo




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