Best hair gel for 3c/4a hair -thread

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Hello curlieas,

Nowadays i am searching for a hair gel that defines my 3c/4a hair without drying it out or make my hair stiff.

Any tip curlies?

I have 3c/4a (not really sure which hait category i beling to) hair whitch is highly porous and have low elasticity.

This is a picture of my hairImageUploadedByCurlTalk1356481630.430721.jpg
Hair type/properties:
3c hair, high porosity, mediumdensity, low elasticity, fine hair.

Curly hair routine/regime:
Combine the modified cg-method (low poo) and a modified tightly curly method.
-Condition and leave in: Aubrey Organics, Giovanni Barzilian keratin and argan oil
-Sealer: shea butter, Argan, olive and coconutoil
-Gel: homemade flaxseed gel, Kinky curly custard, Queen Helene Curl royal shaping creme.
I absolutely LOVE Kinky Curly -Curly Custard!
it gives you definition, shine and does not flake up if you distribute it appropriately!
Best way to do it is like this:
after you've washed and detangled your hair, section it in 4 parts, then take those 4 and section them off into 4 more parts (gives you a total of 16 little chunks)
Make sure your hair is still wet… this product works best when there's still plenty of water still in (Have a water spay bottle handy in case you need to wet your sections)
take them one by one and apply the custard, comb it in with a regular comb and if you are feeling brave, do it with a small comb (you know, the ones they use in salons to make rollers before they put you under that dreadful drier! yuck!) I find this gives it even more definition and stretch. Finish it off with your favorite oil… I love just plain ol' olive oil from the kitchen.
After you've applied your oil and product, double strand twist your little chunk into a bantu knot and put a baby rubber band (not too thight) to keep your knot in place.
Proceed to the next chunk until you've done your whole head.

I find that if I leave my knots in for a few days (infusing them with oils once in a while), my hair responds better (It's like boot camp for curls… they last 2 weeks at times, looking fresh!)
You may choose to un-loose the knots and go about your bussiness…

But if you don't…. here's step 2:

After about 2 days of your Bantu Knots and oil infusions
when you un-loose your knots you may find that your hair is looking crunchy and dry… don't freak out (like I did…. lol) this is NOT the final out come!
just take them out one at a time and separate them. Apply oils (olive, coconut, jojoba or shea) to the ends and work your way up to the root and back down in a stretching out motion. Take your water bottle and spay that chunk then take more Curly Custard and apply a bit, then stretch and stretch and stretch some more…. WATCH THE MAGIC HAPPEN BEFORE YOUR EYES LOL… beautiful curls will start to manifest… just keep stretching!

After your finished with your last chunk, shake your head like a rockstar and LEAVE IT ALONE till it's dry….

I hope this helps
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Last edited by Made2shine; 12-25-2012 at 06:14 PM. Reason: Added more to it cause I forgot a few things!
I absolutely LOVE Kinky Curly -Curly Custard!
it gives you definition, shine and does not flake up if you distribute it appropriately!
Best way to do it is like this:
after you've washed and detangled your hair, section it in 4 parts, then take those 4 and section them off into 4 more parts (gives you a total of 16 little chunks)
Make sure your hair is still wet… this product works best when there's still plenty of water still in (Have a water spay bottle handy in case you need to wet your sections)
take them one by one and apply the custard, comb it in with a regular comb and if you are feeling brave, do it with a small comb (you know, the ones they use in salons to make rollers before they put you under that dreadful drier! yuck!) I find this gives it even more definition and stretch. Finish it off with your favorite oil… I love just plain ol' olive oil from the kitchen.
After you've applied your oil and product, double strand twist your little chunk into a bantu knot and put a baby rubber band (not too thight) to keep your knot in place.
Proceed to the next chunk until you've done your whole head.

I find that if I leave my knots in for a few days (infusing them with oils once in a while), my hair responds better (It's like boot camp for curls… they last 2 weeks at times, looking fresh!)
You may choose to un-loose the knots and go about your bussiness…

But if you don't…. here's step 2:

After about 2 days of your Bantu Knots and oil infusions
when you un-loose your knots you may find that your hair is looking crunchy and dry… don't freak out (like I did…. lol) this is NOT the final out come!
just take them out one at a time and separate them. Apply oils (olive, coconut, jojoba or shea) to the ends and work your way up to the root and back down in a stretching out motion. Take your water bottle and spay that chunk then take more Curly Custard and apply a bit, then stretch and stretch and stretch some more…. WATCH THE MAGIC HAPPEN BEFORE YOUR EYES LOL… beautiful curls will start to manifest… just keep stretching!

After your finished with your last chunk, shake your head like a rockstar and LEAVE IT ALONE till it's dry….

I hope this helps
Originally Posted by Made2shine
You have convinced me :-) kinky is now on my shoppinglist. And thank you so much for the advices
Hair type/properties:
3c hair, high porosity, mediumdensity, low elasticity, fine hair.

Curly hair routine/regime:
Combine the modified cg-method (low poo) and a modified tightly curly method.
-Condition and leave in: Aubrey Organics, Giovanni Barzilian keratin and argan oil
-Sealer: shea butter, Argan, olive and coconutoil
-Gel: homemade flaxseed gel, Kinky curly custard, Queen Helene Curl royal shaping creme.
I love Curly Kinks Coil Jam, Lets Jam Cream Custard Gel, and As I Am Smoothing Gel.
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Shampoos: Ion Hard Water Shampoo
Conditioners: Curl Junkie
Stylers: As I Am Smoothing Gel, Jane Carter Incredible Curls, Camille Rose Almond Jai Twisting Butter, Hairveda Whipped Gelly
Moisturizers: Camille Rose Moisture Milk, Camille Rose Fresh Curl
Leave-Ins: KBB Sweet Ambrosia
Pomades: Hairveda Almond Glaze
I think it is trial and error. Also li and oil make a difference for softness. I dont like kccc because it takes forever to dry on my hair. Usually I stick to activator gel or flaxseed.
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My hair is low to normal porosity and very elastic but I think you should give Garnier's Pure Clean gel a try. It's has lots of slip. I pair it with a level 8 or 5 hold eco styler gel sometimes.
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Eco Styler Krystal:
So far its been pretty good. I wanted to try KCCC for a while, but the price was outrageous, considering the fact that i have no money. I just mix ECK with olive oil and some curl activating products(applied and left to dry before or at the same time). When i tried all that with li, it was horrible (i mix it in my hand before) it was all gunky.... It's prbly the leave in. I might try it again. The trick is to leave it in twists if you have time. Don't play around with it. Just let it air dry naturally. I Got great results.
Thank you all!

I have heard so much about fsg so this weekend i did it. I made homemade flaxseed gel and applied it to my soaking wet hair after applying conditioner. OMG!!!! The best gel i have ever used. It didnt dry my hair out and itgave me soft and welldefined curls.
Anyone here who have the same experience?

The only minus is that i have to refrigerate it. I cant carry the gel with me in my purse daily.

Do you now if i can add sth to this gel so i dont need to refrigerate it??
Hair type/properties:
3c hair, high porosity, mediumdensity, low elasticity, fine hair.

Curly hair routine/regime:
Combine the modified cg-method (low poo) and a modified tightly curly method.
-Condition and leave in: Aubrey Organics, Giovanni Barzilian keratin and argan oil
-Sealer: shea butter, Argan, olive and coconutoil
-Gel: homemade flaxseed gel, Kinky curly custard, Queen Helene Curl royal shaping creme.
Thank you all!

I have heard so much about fsg so this weekend i did it. I made homemade flaxseed gel and applied it to my soaking wet hair after applying conditioner. OMG!!!! The best gel i have ever used. It didnt dry my hair out and itgave me soft and welldefined curls.
Anyone here who have the same experience?

The only minus is that i have to refrigerate it. I cant carry the gel with me in my purse daily.

Do you now if i can add sth to this gel so i dont need to refrigerate it??
Originally Posted by Curly Sara
As I mentioned in my earlier post I use fsg. I love it but only in the summer. I don't think you can get around refrigeration but you can add preservatives to get it from spoiling as quickly. The new SM souffle has flaxseed oil in it. That may work for you.
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My hair is low to normal porosity and very elastic but I think you should give Garnier's Pure Clean gel a try. It's has lots of slip. I pair it with a level 8 or 5 hold eco styler gel sometimes.
Originally Posted by Antonia
I love the Pure Clean Gel in the spring/summer. I cant use it in the winter though
I too love Flax Seed gel. My recipe
Is 2 cups water for 1/4 cup FS plus I add 1 tbsp each jojoba oil and glycerin but pure FSG is great too. You can also add a few drops of lemongrass essential oil (maybe 4) and/or tea tree, rosemary etc.
I too love Flax Seed gel. My recipe
Is 2 cups water for 1/4 cup FS plus I add 1 tbsp each jojoba oil and glycerin but pure FSG is great too. You can also add a few drops of lemongrass essential oil (maybe 4) and/or tea tree, rosemary etc.
Originally Posted by rmc2
I use the same recipe -2 tbs flax seed in one cup of water. I only mixed some coconut oil in it.
Why do you use glycerin? Isnt it a humectant that does not work well in cold weather?
Hair type/properties:
3c hair, high porosity, mediumdensity, low elasticity, fine hair.

Curly hair routine/regime:
Combine the modified cg-method (low poo) and a modified tightly curly method.
-Condition and leave in: Aubrey Organics, Giovanni Barzilian keratin and argan oil
-Sealer: shea butter, Argan, olive and coconutoil
-Gel: homemade flaxseed gel, Kinky curly custard, Queen Helene Curl royal shaping creme.
Thank you all!

I have heard so much about fsg so this weekend i did it. I made homemade flaxseed gel and applied it to my soaking wet hair after applying conditioner. OMG!!!! The best gel i have ever used. It didnt dry my hair out and itgave me soft and welldefined curls.
Anyone here who have the same experience?

The only minus is that i have to refrigerate it. I cant carry the gel with me in my purse daily.

Do you now if i can add sth to this gel so i dont need to refrigerate it??
Originally Posted by Curly Sara
As I mentioned in my earlier post I use fsg. I love it but only in the summer. I don't think you can get around refrigeration but you can add preservatives to get it from spoiling as quickly. The new SM souffle has flaxseed oil in it. That may work for you.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Thanks! Which preservatives are you referring to?
Hair type/properties:
3c hair, high porosity, mediumdensity, low elasticity, fine hair.

Curly hair routine/regime:
Combine the modified cg-method (low poo) and a modified tightly curly method.
-Condition and leave in: Aubrey Organics, Giovanni Barzilian keratin and argan oil
-Sealer: shea butter, Argan, olive and coconutoil
-Gel: homemade flaxseed gel, Kinky curly custard, Queen Helene Curl royal shaping creme.
Curly Sara, I have no problems with the glycerin during winter. I add it just because it was in the recipe. Many say that it is a myth the say that glycerin should be avoided in winter. So long as a lot of water is mixed with the glycerin (used on wet hair after washing hair or using water spray for second etc day hair), there will more than
enough water in the hair to "satiate" the glycerin; and your hair will not be dry.
Some preservatives include vitamin E and some even say that essential oil like lemongrass and tea tree can be used but I am not sure. I just refrigerate mine and keep it for 2 weeks with some essential oil. I don't bother to really find out if I have enough preservatives.
https://www.thesage.com/catalog/Preservatives.html

I pulled this link from the No Fail Flaxseed gel thread. It's a long thread but a good read. Also you will see curlies of all patterns can have success with FSG. I think there are some vendors that sell it premade.
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Curly Sara, I have no problems with the glycerin during winter. I add it just because it was in the recipe. Many say that it is a myth the say that glycerin should be avoided in winter. So long as a lot of water is mixed with the glycerin (used on wet hair after washing hair or using water spray for second etc day hair), there will more than
enough water in the hair to "satiate" the glycerin; and your hair will not be dry.
Originally Posted by rmc2
yea using a product with glycerin before a hot shower helps with the moisture balance
i like to mix gel and conditioner together to create a custard. gives great lasting curl definition, easy to make, and cheap.
i like to mix gel and conditioner together to create a custard. gives great lasting curl definition, easy to make, and cheap.
Originally Posted by honeysweet20
I have also experimented with this by mixing "honey suckle rose" conditioner from iherb.com (use couponcode BIF028 and get discount on your first order) and homemade flaxseed gel and sealing my ends with evoo. It gives me good results in form of moisturized defined curls.
This in combination with a moderate tightly curly method and cg-method has so far given me good hair-results!! I have never had better hair-days.

So i have found out that its not just about the products you use but also your hair-technique.
And its very important that you first analyse your hairproperties (elasticity, porosity etc.) before you choose products and techniques and not get so focused om hairtype in itself.
Hair type/properties:
3c hair, high porosity, mediumdensity, low elasticity, fine hair.

Curly hair routine/regime:
Combine the modified cg-method (low poo) and a modified tightly curly method.
-Condition and leave in: Aubrey Organics, Giovanni Barzilian keratin and argan oil
-Sealer: shea butter, Argan, olive and coconutoil
-Gel: homemade flaxseed gel, Kinky curly custard, Queen Helene Curl royal shaping creme.

Last edited by Curly Sara; 02-16-2013 at 04:46 AM.
I like EcoStyler. But it can get crunchy.


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