Help! 4b hair in winter!!

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So technically I guess you can say I'm a newbie I started transitioning in July 2012 I believe and then I got all the rest of my permed ends cut off In December of that same year. So I have a TWA and it's been growing which is great and I have been using Shea Moisture products which I love but my hair WILL not stay moisturized and my hair seems like it gets heavy from the products that I put in my hair so I wash it once every week or every 2 weeks depending on how bad it is. I also use Hollywood Beauty Tea Tree Oil and Carols Daughter Hair Balm to add some extra moisture when my hair is wet and daily when it's dry!

If somebody can give me some tips on how to keep my hair moisturized in this cold weather I would be greatful! and also how to keep it moisturized in the warmer weather as well!
I don't know if you already do this or not, but I would highly recommend deep conditioning every time you wash. Even a two minute mask will work wonders over the long term when it comes to moisture retention. I make sure to diligently do so during the dry Winter months. HTH
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Favorite products:
Shampoo: KC Come Clean
Conditioner: Tresemme Naturals
Styling: Donna Marie Dream Curling Cream, EcoStyler Gel (pink)

Buttercreams are the only things that keep my hair moisturized. I use Naturalee olive and jojoba cream and it's great. Not sure what you could use if you prefer otg products. Do you use sm curl enhancing smoothie?
Some SheaMoisture products contain glycerin (and wax) and glycerin is a humectant, best used in humid weather, otherwise it can be drying to hair. I'd place anything w/glycerin into the back of your closet, until muggy weather.

Also, noticed the common denominator w/all the products you listed: very heavy on all sorts of oil. I don't have your hair type but I'm guessing you've benefitted from this, at least some, as the oils and butters are less likely to weigh your very curly hair down. BUT, you still could be suffering from buildup IMO.

I know the trend is to rigidly follow the whole "Curly Girl" routine and curse regular sulphate shampoos, but that's extreme. It's healthy to have a good ole fashion shampoo (a "clarifying" shampoo, specifically) every once in a while if you're constantly applying oils and butters. Because if you don't, you're gradually forming a barrier over your hair so that eventually little to no moisture can penetrate and hydrate it. It can lead to dryness and in "4" type hair especially, breakage. ... So I'd use a clarifying shampoo (like Suave) before putting any more products into it ... then use a conditioner w/out glycerin and see if you notice a return of some softness. Then I'd occasionally use the shampoo again. ... If you've recently shampooed, then maybe something else is going on.
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Some SheaMoisture products contain glycerin (and wax) and glycerin is a humectant, best used in humid weather, otherwise it can be drying to hair. I'd place anything w/glycerin into the back of your closet, until muggy weather.

Also, noticed the common denominator w/all the products you listed: very heavy on all sorts of oil. I don't have your hair type but I'm guessing you've benefitted from this, at least some, as the oils and butters are less likely to weigh your very curly hair down. BUT, you still could be suffering from buildup IMO.

I know the trend is to rigidly follow the whole "Curly Girl" routine and curse regular sulphate shampoos, but that's extreme. It's healthy to have a good ole fashion shampoo (a "clarifying" shampoo, specifically) every once in a while if you're constantly applying oils and butters. Because if you don't, you're gradually forming a barrier over your hair so that eventually little to no moisture can penetrate and hydrate it. It can lead to dryness and in "4" type hair especially, breakage. ... So I'd use a clarifying shampoo (like Suave) before putting any more products into it ... then use a conditioner w/out glycerin and see if you notice a return of some softness. Then I'd occasionally use the shampoo again. ... If you've recently shampooed, then maybe something else is going on.
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
There are cleansing conditioners with Cocamidopropyl Betaine that can remove buildup as well. Jessicurl Hair Cleansing cream, Curl Junkie Daily Fix Cleansing Conditioner, L'Oreal Evercreme Cleansing Conditioner are some of the cleansing conditioners that contact Cocamidopropyl Betaine.

texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal
co-wash - NaturelleGrow Coconut Water or Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark & Blue Malva Cleansing Conditioners
LI - KCKT mixed w/ SM C & H Curl & Style Milk
DC - NG Mango & Coconut H2O or Chamomile/Brdck Root
Gel - SM souffle (winter), KCCC (summer) or CR Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel (year round)
Sealers - Virgin Coconut Oil, Avocado butter, Aloe butter
Ayurvedic treatments - Jamila Henna, Sukesh, Aloe Vera Powder, Hibiscus Powder
.




Yes, cocamidopropyl betaine can be used for silicone buildup, but unlike SLS - type agents, it won't remove hard water build up, and I'm unable to locate any online source siting CB's use for oil buildup (outside of mineral oil buildup).

CB also won't remove buildup related to use of certain medicines, if that's a concern for someone.
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Yes, cocamidopropyl betaine can be used for silicone buildup, but unlike SLS - type agents, it won't remove hard water build up, and I'm unable to locate any online source siting CB's use for oil buildup (outside of mineral oil buildup).

CB also won't remove buildup related to use of certain medicines, if that's a concern for someone.
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
Kinky Curly Come Clean is good for hard water build up.

NEW & IMPROVED Formula with Phytic Acid - a natural chealating agent that removes hard water minerals such as calcium & magnesium. An all natural replacement for EDTA derived from soy & corn, it wlll soften hard water, rinse cleaner and prevent hard water buildup on your hair.

Our exclusive blend of Mandarin Orange extract will gently clean your hair and scalp of dulling buildup while Sea Kelp will help maintain its proper moisture balance.

This Sulfate Free shampoo is perfect for dry damaged hair and gentle enough for everyday use.


Purified water, organic mandarin orange fruit, organic marigold flower, organic white willow bark, organic sea kelp, c14-16 olefin, sulfonate and cocamidopropyl betaine (coconut derived), phytic acid, citric acid, sea salt, phenoxyethanol, natural fragrance

texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal
co-wash - NaturelleGrow Coconut Water or Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark & Blue Malva Cleansing Conditioners
LI - KCKT mixed w/ SM C & H Curl & Style Milk
DC - NG Mango & Coconut H2O or Chamomile/Brdck Root
Gel - SM souffle (winter), KCCC (summer) or CR Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel (year round)
Sealers - Virgin Coconut Oil, Avocado butter, Aloe butter
Ayurvedic treatments - Jamila Henna, Sukesh, Aloe Vera Powder, Hibiscus Powder
.




At this site and on Amazon, CC has a rating 3.5, with people complaining that it's too harsh compared to regular sulfate shampoos. Meanwhile, the Suave clarifying shampoo has a 5 star rating here and on Amazon. It's terrific. I've used it for years.

Plus $12 for 8 oz.s of CC is far too steep (a consistent complaint from a lot of people about all Kinky Curly products). Meanwhile, you can get that 5 star 22.5 oz.s of Suave for $2.29, and it practically lasts forever

... Oh, and Suave will also remove hard water buildup.
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Last edited by Korkscrew; 02-27-2013 at 02:52 PM.

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