hairveda and afroveda

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Afroveda and Hairveda...I heard about these products some years ago when I first went natural. I heard some rumors or scandals about their ingredients and prices. I was wondering if anyone still use these products.
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Last edited by Cerendipity; 05-07-2013 at 08:27 AM.
Are these two brands related?

I use Hairveda Whipped Cream Ends Hydration...I don't have issues with the ingredients, I think they're quite good.

Edit: Actually...I won't be using the Hairveda Whipped Cream anymore. This question kinda peaked my interest and after some Googling and learning about the bases on that product, I have no interest.

Last edited by RizosMio; 02-20-2013 at 08:51 PM.
Love Hairveda Cocasta Oil (major staple), and the two daily conditioners (24-7 Moist and the MoistPro). Also Amala Cream Rinse.

I have some Afroveda Shea Amla and Curl Define that I got last year on a major sale which is the only time Ill buy it.


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I purchased Afroveda Sweet Roots line last summer and I like it. I have not and probably wont reorder only because im impatient. I gave up on Hairveda...hair just doesn't like the line enough.

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I use the Afroveda Shea Alma at when I remoisturize my hair nightly. It's very moisturizing and makes my hair soft
i stopped with afroveda after finding out some products had cones. never repurchased anything.
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LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
i stopped with afroveda after finding out some products had cones. never repurchased anything.
Originally Posted by hippychic
I didn't know anything about it. I only use the butters which don't have cones in them
Ok I just read the thread about the "Afroveda" gate thing. That was almost 3yrs ago., I'm not a mixtress so knowing about bases and stuff is foreign to me because Im not good at mixing stufff. As long as it doesn't have drying alcohols, cones, parabens, mineral oil. petrolatum, or any other harmful rogue ingredients, I don't have an issue with it. If it works for my hair then I'm good. It's kinda like naturals who do use those things, to each is their own. I like Afroveda so far. If that changes Ill let you all know.
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Last edited by Cerendipity; 05-07-2013 at 08:28 AM.
THIS is what Aftoveda Shea Alma does for my hair on my nightly remoisture regimen and why I use and like it.

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what i think hippy meant is she wasnt disclosing CONES in her products(if she was using the bases listed). If you go by some of the bases that were listed, they looked very familiar to her products only hers didnt list cones.
Originally Posted by Cerendipity
I saw that. I wasn't using the products that didn't list cones. It was her conditioners not the butters. Like I said that was almost 3yrs ago and ANY of these product makers could be doing it. Unless we are making our own shampoos and conditioners, we truly don't know what we are using.
what i think hippy meant is she wasnt disclosing CONES in her products(if she was using the bases listed). If you go by some of the bases that were listed, they looked very familiar to her products only hers didnt list cones.
Originally Posted by Cerendipity
I saw that. I wasn't using the products that didn't list cones. It was her conditioners not the butters. Like I said that was almost 3yrs ago and ANY of these product makers could be doing it. Unless we are making our own shampoos and conditioners, we truly don't know what we are using.
Originally Posted by GoldenBlaze
cerendipity is absolutely right about what i thought.

my hair hates hates hates silicones. i couldn't figure out why my hair hated her conditioners because they were supposed to be silicone free. i did like her butters but the mold and separation, along with long wait times and poor customer service issues stopped that too. all of afroveda just left a bad taste in my mouth. made me second guess the integrity of her business and products. if it works for you, fine - do you...
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LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
what i think hippy meant is she wasnt disclosing CONES in her products(if she was using the bases listed). If you go by some of the bases that were listed, they looked very familiar to her products only hers didnt list cones.
Originally Posted by Cerendipity
I saw that. I wasn't using the products that didn't list cones. It was her conditioners not the butters. Like I said that was almost 3yrs ago and ANY of these product makers could be doing it. Unless we are making our own shampoos and conditioners, we truly don't know what we are using.
Originally Posted by GoldenBlaze
cerendipity is absolutely right about what i thought.

my hair hates hates hates silicones. i couldn't figure out why my hair hated her conditioners because they were supposed to be silicone free. i did like her butters but the mold and separation, along with long wait times and poor customer service issues stopped that too. all of afroveda just left a bad taste in my mouth. made me second guess the integrity of her business and products. if it works for you, fine - do you...
Originally Posted by hippychic
That was 3yrs ago. Im sure there are plenty of natural hair consumers who have let that go, because her business is thriving, even in these economic times. In business these days most folks have no integrity but that doesn't stop goods from being sold. Que sera sera...

I saw that. I wasn't using the products that didn't list cones. It was her conditioners not the butters. Like I said that was almost 3yrs ago and ANY of these product makers could be doing it. Unless we are making our own shampoos and conditioners, we truly don't know what we are using.
Originally Posted by GoldenBlaze
cerendipity is absolutely right about what i thought.

my hair hates hates hates silicones. i couldn't figure out why my hair hated her conditioners because they were supposed to be silicone free. i did like her butters but the mold and separation, along with long wait times and poor customer service issues stopped that too. all of afroveda just left a bad taste in my mouth. made me second guess the integrity of her business and products. if it works for you, fine - do you...
Originally Posted by hippychic
That was 3yrs ago. Im sure there are plenty of natural hair consumers who have let that go, because her business is thriving, even in these economic times. In business these days most folks have no integrity but that doesn't stop goods from being sold. Que sera sera...
Originally Posted by GoldenBlaze
I agree with this. Forums, blogs, youtubers etc do not make up even half of the natural hair community. So just because she may have faced a harsh backlash from the online natural hair blogosphere.....it doesn't mean that her other customers (which again are the majority anyway) care about the "issues". For a lot of people...they don't care...and it's not that serious. Even if suchinsuch is using bases....they rather by a finished product (bases or not) that works...rather than purchase a basic product from a wholesaler and add extra ingredients and mix it to work for them. To a non-mixtress the latter alternative may prove to be MORE expensive and time consuming for them than just buying the Afroveda. People will pay for convenience....and a lot of people don't care about that kind of stuff.

I have not purchased from either product lines and most likely never will btw, so I can see this pretty objectively.
I'm personally extremely miffed by the petrolatum in the Hairveda Whipped Cream Ends Hydration base...nowhere does it appear in Hairveda's actual ingredient list. I cleanse with clay and I don't believe it removes such ingredients, so now I'll have to clarify just to be certain. Geez... :/

I have a bottle of 95% full Whipped Cream moisturizer if anyone wants...heh.
I'm personally extremely miffed by the petrolatum in the Hairveda Whipped Cream Ends Hydration base...nowhere does it appear in Hairveda's actual ingredient list. I cleanse with clay and I don't believe it removes such ingredients, so now I'll have to clarify just to be certain. Geez... :/

I have a bottle of 95% full Whipped Cream moisturizer if anyone wants...heh.
Originally Posted by RizosMio
There is a fine line between libel and opinion, and the poster that claimed Hairveda's Whipped Cream product had petrolatum in it was REALLY walking that fine line. It's dangerous because that's how misinformation, rumours, and problems get started. Later on if you read a little further you will see where several posters, including coilynapp who from what I've seen, is very well educated on ingredients addressed the posts regarding bases. In short, it is a stretch to say definitively that Hairvedas leave in cream has petrolatum in it.....a hard stretch. I'm not saying it doesn't Im just saying there is VERY VERY little evidence that that particular product comes from the base that contains petrolatum. So little in fact that I would go so far as to say that woman was irresponsible for making that comment. Not everything comes from a base...and that particular product could very well NOT come from that base or any base at all for that matter. Basically, she doesn't know whether it has petrolatum in it...that particular poster was claiming a lot of products were "bases". Later on it was revealed that what she was calling "bases" in a few situations were actually raw ingredients that were simply conditioner pellets.

If you like a product, and it works for you....use it. You will go nuts and spend an ample amount of money following the "hair dos and donts"...and very few of them are factual. Mineral Oil and Petrolatum are removed just fine from the hair by something as simple as conditioner washing.....so yes your clay treatment will suffice.
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One possibility could be that these companies are copying the ingredients but mixing themselves, so they can leave things out...I'm just not sure I want to risk it.

I'm actually not one of those people that runs from cones or mineral oil, I don't think they're bad ingredients at all. But they should be removed properly. The only reason why I'm avoiding them is because I wash/DC with clay.

Thanks CurlyOne I'll go back and read things a bit more carefully and see from there...my hair has been perfectly fine and without buildup, if that can attest for anything.

Edit: Heyyy I didn't know mineral oil/petrolatum were easily removed? I'll dig a little to be sure but thanks!

Last edited by RizosMio; 02-23-2013 at 08:08 AM.
cerendipity is absolutely right about what i thought.

my hair hates hates hates silicones. i couldn't figure out why my hair hated her conditioners because they were supposed to be silicone free. i did like her butters but the mold and separation, along with long wait times and poor customer service issues stopped that too. all of afroveda just left a bad taste in my mouth. made me second guess the integrity of her business and products. if it works for you, fine - do you...
Originally Posted by hippychic
That was 3yrs ago. Im sure there are plenty of natural hair consumers who have let that go, because her business is thriving, even in these economic times. In business these days most folks have no integrity but that doesn't stop goods from being sold. Que sera sera...
Originally Posted by GoldenBlaze
I agree with this. Forums, blogs, youtubers etc do not make up even half of the natural hair community. So just because she may have faced a harsh backlash from the online natural hair blogosphere.....it doesn't mean that her other customers (which again are the majority anyway) care about the "issues". For a lot of people...they don't care...and it's not that serious. Even if suchinsuch is using bases....they rather by a finished product (bases or not) that works...rather than purchase a basic product from a wholesaler and add extra ingredients and mix it to work for them. To a non-mixtress the latter alternative may prove to be MORE expensive and time consuming for them than just buying the Afroveda. People will pay for convenience....and a lot of people don't care about that kind of stuff.

I have not purchased from either product lines and most likely never will btw, so I can see this pretty objectively.
Originally Posted by TheCurlyOne
Very good point and this is exactly how I feel. I buy for convenience because I'm in no way a mixtress. I know how cones and petrolatum feel in my hair and I don't have that feeling when I use Afroveda. It feels like a moisturizing butter that melts in my strands, making them shiny and soft. That's all that matters to me.

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