When You Used to Relax ... ?

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Kynnib, thanks for sharing your experience You guys are helping me see that lots of us had to do other things to our hair even AFTER using a relaxer if we wanted it to not look so curly.
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Before going natural I didnt have bone straight hair. I had a slight texture left behind. I prefered it that way. I rarely used heat relaxed. I did protective styles, bun/ updos i learn off yt. If I wanted straight hair I rollerset and saran wrap. flatirons rarely touched my hair. If i did flatiron i would rollerset first, no blow drying
ever.

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After applying and rinsing out Luster Pink, were you able to just let your hair dry naturally and it would just dry straight? ... Or did you have to tweak things further, like AdThomas and I had to?

Btw, I took a quick look at your blog pics (I'll read it later tomorrow) and ... your hair is amazing I admit too being thoroughly envious of your root lift.
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
I guess I should elaborate. LoL!

Luster did the best job. It mad my hair as straight as it could get. There was still a slight wave in it, but it actually made it look relaxed.

I'm low porosity with the STRONGEST of hair. I actually fell asleep with a super relaxer in my hair and my hair was fine. I've put a curl on top of a relaxer on top of a curl and never lost hair. I had to cut my straight ends off.

So no relaxer would straighten my hair to bone straight.

But I guess my strong hair is a blessing.

Thanks for even looking at my blog!!! I know it's pretty inactive.

I also have a YouTube. I'm oddly more active there.

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Originally Posted by BlackAngelPlayah
Seems like most curlies and coilies don't go natural until they heat-damage or relax their hair off a cliff. Since your hair is superhumanly strong, what prompted you to go natural when the relaxers were working for you? Were you inspired by some person or people who were already natural? Did you just get sick of straight hair? Inquiring minds want to know.

I especially like your hair in your Eco Styler vid! You and so many curlies seem to hit it off with Eco. I want to love it but it left me looking like a tumble weed ... Think it's the glycerin.
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
Dang, my bad. LoL! Wasn't expecting replies.

I went natural because I wanted locs. I was totally in love with locs. In 2005 I was just sick of trying to have straight hair that never looked good. It looked ok. But it was never straight and smooth like other people's hair came out. The straight just never suited me.

So armed with my determination to loc my hair I went forth. Ready to shake off that fakeness of the relaxer. And as it locked up I just felt happier and happier. Confident even. I'd never felt that!

Then in 2011 I think I wanted to see my hair. See what it was like. I had some idea because I wasn't relaxed until I was about 12 or something, but I just really wanted to see it now. So I picked my locs apart and ended up cutting it short. I was in love again. The curls were so cute. And REAL!!

I guess that was the main thing. I was tired of walking around with hair that wasn't mine. I wasn't born with straight hair, why force it? Who said our hair wasn't acceptable? That it was bad or needed to be corrected? I beg to differ.


And here I am. 8 years later. A relaxer has never crossed my mind. and doesn't see it ever will. As for relaxers doing fine for me, my hair was strong, but mentally relaxers aren't the best for anyone.


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I guess I should elaborate. LoL!

Luster did the best job. It mad my hair as straight as it could get. There was still a slight wave in it, but it actually made it look relaxed.

I'm low porosity with the STRONGEST of hair. I actually fell asleep with a super relaxer in my hair and my hair was fine. I've put a curl on top of a relaxer on top of a curl and never lost hair. I had to cut my straight ends off.

So no relaxer would straighten my hair to bone straight.

But I guess my strong hair is a blessing.

Thanks for even looking at my blog!!! I know it's pretty inactive.

I also have a YouTube. I'm oddly more active there.

BlackAngel Playah - YouTube

And I'm BlackAngelPlayah on Instagram.
Originally Posted by BlackAngelPlayah
Seems like most curlies and coilies don't go natural until they heat-damage or relax their hair off a cliff. Since your hair is superhumanly strong, what prompted you to go natural when the relaxers were working for you? Were you inspired by some person or people who were already natural? Did you just get sick of straight hair? Inquiring minds want to know.

I especially like your hair in your Eco Styler vid! You and so many curlies seem to hit it off with Eco. I want to love it but it left me looking like a tumble weed ... Think it's the glycerin.
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
Dang, my bad. LoL! Wasn't expecting replies.

I went natural because I wanted locs. I was totally in love with locs. In 2005 I was just sick of trying to have straight hair that never looked good. It looked ok. But it was never straight and smooth like other people's hair came out. The straight just never suited me.

So armed with my determination to loc my hair I went forth. Ready to shake off that fakeness of the relaxer. And as it locked up I just felt happier and happier. Confident even. I'd never felt that!

Then in 2011 I think I wanted to see my hair. See what it was like. I had some idea because I wasn't relaxed until I was about 12 or something, but I just really wanted to see it now. So I picked my locs apart and ended up cutting it short. I was in love again. The curls were so cute. And REAL!!

I guess that was the main thing. I was tired of walking around with hair that wasn't mine. I wasn't born with straight hair, why force it? Who said our hair wasn't acceptable? That it was bad or needed to be corrected? I beg to differ.


And here I am. 8 years later. A relaxer has never crossed my mind. and doesn't see it ever will. As for relaxers doing fine for me, my hair was strong, but mentally relaxers aren't the best for anyone.


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Originally Posted by BlackAngelPlayah
I totally feel you. I have never been the slightest bit tempted to relax even when extremely frustrated. I think it is remembering all those bad burns. And having to rub Neosporin on my scalp. If I ever got tomy hair was that much trouble it would be hello twa.
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Exactly. I would plait it up and wear a hat. LoL!


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Hey gals, this question leads back down memory lane (at least for those of us who've relaxed our hair prior to going natural) ...

Were any chemical relaxers you used completely successful in straightening your hair? Did your hair revert back to its natural state once wet, so that it was still necessary to manipulate it w/a blow dryer and/or heat as it dried for it to look straight or partially straight? I ask this because, for me the answer to all those questions is a resounding NO. Those chemicals basically failed the Hell out of me and I wonder how they were for you. I wonder what level of success or failure you personally had w/that stuff
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
My hair would not fully get straight when it was relaxed. My mother often joked that if she didn't see them put on the relaxer, she would not believe it was done. Honestly, my hair looked like you Rudy Huxtable ish - basically like you took type 4 hair and blew it out with a width tooth comb attachment on a blow dryer. It still looked super kinky, but stretched and easier to comb through. This was from when I really young to about pre-teens. When puberty and hormones kicked in, my hair became less resistant to the relaxer and my hair became more prone to breakage. My hair would get bone straight and when wet it would like 2a-ish. My hair would get super straight, but because I had high density (fine strands) which gave the illusion of thick hair, and the experience from when I was younger, the stylist would use super strength relaxers. My hair would break off like crazy and I had to 2 big chops in grade 7 and in grade 10 only to relax a few months later.

ETA: I think my hair was low po back in the day, normal now that it is virgin, and high when colour treated.
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In 1999 I had microbraids in my hair for a few months. The takedown was too much, so I just cut my hair. After that, I was just too lazy to relax again and then I just got used to being natural. My hair right now is about 2". I did my millionth big chop mid August (not from a relaxer, just felt like having short hair again). Yeah, so laziness was motivation to be go natural.
Short is wonderful IMO and I bet your hair is very pretty I went through years of wearing mine short because it was so easy.

I'm thinking of going back to that now LOL In fact I just had a dream the other night: Some strange guy wearing a Honey Boo Boo disguise mask broke down the front door to our house and cornered my husband and me. Dude was wielding hedge clippers. He aimed at my head and swung, over and over again, slicing thick chunks of my hair off, until nothing remained but scalp. I looked down and there were curls where the carpet used to be. I grabbed the intruder and hugged him, rocked him in my arms, crying tears of gratitude and joy. Hubby dropped to his knees, threw his arms out to his sides, closed his eyes and shouted "Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Oh dear God ... Hallelujah!"
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intense dream ... when short do you get an afro, or just kinda way 'cause not enough length?
Short is wonderful IMO and I bet your hair is very pretty I went through years of wearing mine short because it was so easy.

I'm thinking of going back to that now LOL In fact I just had a dream the other night: Some strange guy wearing a Honey Boo Boo disguise mask broke down the front door to our house and cornered my husband and me. Dude was wielding hedge clippers. He aimed at my head and swung, over and over again, slicing thick chunks of my hair off, until nothing remained but scalp. I looked down and there were curls where the carpet used to be. I grabbed the intruder and hugged him, rocked him in my arms, crying tears of gratitude and joy. Hubby dropped to his knees, threw his arms out to his sides, closed his eyes and shouted "Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Oh dear God ... Hallelujah!"
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
Funny you say that, Korkscrew. I have gone back and forth about wanting to go long, as in below shoulder length but since I'm in the 2s (2b/2c) I'd probably lose the curl as it got longer. I usually go three months between trims. Perfect balance between enjoying the curls and not having it be too much to take care of. Plus, I think the "fro" look fits me. One day though, I might get adventurous enough to create a 3 or 4 look. Though I'd likely need a rod set to get there.
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intense dream ... when short do you get an afro, or just kinda way 'cause not enough length?
Originally Posted by africana
Intense: yeah that describes it perfectly. When I woke up I instinctively clutched my skull with both hands. There was of course still a ton of hair and I felt really relieved and really disappointed.

Hmmm ... well, I like to keep the hair at my crown no longer than about 2.5 inches long (it's work and money because it grows quickly), and then a lot of short layers throughout the length of my hair until the bottom 2 inches or so. Anything that short or shorter results in a curl pattern of 3c (crown is curliest, and other areas in back). But then it's 3b most other places with a 3a. When it's super short (close to the head), oddly enough it just looks like a bunch of waves. BUT I can form a floppy half-fro with it (maybe cause I'm Halfrican haha) once it starts growing out just a little ... When I go to get a Deva cut my hair has that half-fro look as they unwind my curls and I love it. I'm going to have to put some of those pics in one of my pic albums. ... What about you? What is your hair like at various lengths?

Funny you say that, Korkscrew. I have gone back and forth about wanting to go long, as in below shoulder length but since I'm in the 2s (2b/2c) I'd probably lose the curl as it got longer. I usually go three months between trims. Perfect balance between enjoying the curls and not having it be too much to take care of. Plus, I think the "fro" look fits me. One day though, I might get adventurous enough to create a 3 or 4 look. Though I'd likely need a rod set to get there.
Originally Posted by bobby
It's great that you've nailed down a routine that works for you Bobby If you ever experiment with curling rods, would you consider posting pics of your results? (That would be fun.)
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intense dream ... when short do you get an afro, or just kinda way 'cause not enough length?
Originally Posted by africana
Intense: yeah that describes it perfectly. When I woke up I instinctively clutched my skull with both hands. There was of course still a ton of hair and I felt really relieved and really disappointed.

Hmmm ... well, I like to keep the hair at my crown no longer than about 2.5 inches long (it's work and money because it grows quickly), and then a lot of short layers throughout the length of my hair until the bottom 2 inches or so. Anything that short or shorter results in a curl pattern of 3c (crown is curliest, and other areas in back). But then it's 3b most other places with a 3a. When it's super short (close to the head), oddly enough it just looks like a bunch of waves. BUT I can form a floppy half-fro with it (maybe cause I'm Halfrican haha) once it starts growing out just a little ... When I go to get a Deva cut my hair has that half-fro look as they unwind my curls and I love it. I'm going to have to put some of those pics in one of my pic albums. ... What about you? What is your hair like at various lengths?

Funny you say that, Korkscrew. I have gone back and forth about wanting to go long, as in below shoulder length but since I'm in the 2s (2b/2c) I'd probably lose the curl as it got longer. I usually go three months between trims. Perfect balance between enjoying the curls and not having it be too much to take care of. Plus, I think the "fro" look fits me. One day though, I might get adventurous enough to create a 3 or 4 look. Though I'd likely need a rod set to get there.
Originally Posted by bobby
It's great that you've nailed down a routine that works for you Bobby If you ever experiment with curling rods, would you consider posting pics of your results? (That would be fun.)
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
For you, absolutely. I'd need someone to do it for me though as I wouldn't know the first thing about doing it to make it look right. I would never get it permed (couldn't stand the chemicals) but I could do a rod set once. LOL
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I have low porosity hair. Like others have said, stylists would leave relaxers on way longer than they should to try and get my hair as straight as possible. My hair was never one texture. On a single strand of hair it would be bone straight, super curly in the middle, and wavy at the ends. You could see the different times my hair resisted the relaxer lol it was a mess I could never wear it out without blowdrying and flat ironing my hair to get it straight.

My straightened relaxed hair was frizzier than my straightened natural hair.
Bonita, I would guess the upside of that is you won't be so tempted to start straightening again (?) ... Well, that's definitely the case for me. It wasn't working anyway so it's not like I'm going to throw my hands up in the air one day and say, "I'm sick of naturally curly hair so I'm going to try and chemically straighten my hair so that it's still curly but ruined." lol
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No it's still hard not to straighten lol.. My hair isn't hard to straighten with heat it's just damn near impossible to get it straight with a relaxer..

But I haven't used heat in almost 6 months and I've seen my hair really flourish in that time..
LOL my mind was so fixated on relaxers I forgot about all those other alternative straightening methods

Six months ... now that's discipline! Or at least it was for me, looking back on it. Are you comfortable posting some pics of your (now healthier, unstraightened) hair?
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Sure!

The first pic is from summer 2011 when I was still heat styling.. My hair was NOT moisturized and the heat damage really showed when I wore it curly.

I actually cut about 6 inches off last August..

The next two pics are more recent; the middle one is from November I believe and the last one is after my first henna treatment two weeks ago.. The resolution on my cell camera isn't the best but hopefully you can see how much shinier my hair is now that I've given up the heat/straight styles.. It also retains length so much better. My hair is 2 inches away from waist length right now.. I don't think it's ever been this long before..
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