When You Used to Relax ... ?

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Hey gals, this question leads back down memory lane (at least for those of us who've relaxed our hair prior to going natural) ...

Were any chemical relaxers you used completely successful in straightening your hair? Did your hair revert back to its natural state once wet, so that it was still necessary to manipulate it w/a blow dryer and/or heat as it dried for it to look straight or partially straight? I ask this because, for me the answer to all those questions is a resounding NO. Those chemicals basically failed the Hell out of me and I wonder how they were for you. I wonder what level of success or failure you personally had w/that stuff
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Yes and no.mine would take but it would take longer than the regular time. Stylist would leave it in longer and repeatedly work it through. I know now my hair is lopo which is chemical resistant. Needless to say I usually had horrible scalp burns and scabs. Sometimes my hair would stick to my scalp in the scab and I would have to peel it off. Horrible memories!!!! I would still have to blow dry or rollerset or wrap my hair

Now I have a cousin who relaxers never took in her hair. She would sweat and it would all curl back up like she never relaxed it. People were always oohing ahing over her hair but She hates curly hair. Last time I saw her she had done BKT and it looked like it didn't take either and her hair was dry.
Luster Pink did a great job on my hair. If I was still relaxing, I'd be using that.
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Sorry this is so long. I got all chatty from too much caffeine ...

I completely relate to the burning and scabby scalp thing! Happened so often. Just like you, they kept it on a longer time than usual. Yeah, that surely was treacherous. Never again.

Never. Again.

Are you saying "lopo" is another term for "chemically resistant"? Also, when you say you had to roller set, blow dry and wrap, do you mean that's what you had to do to make it straight again after wetting it (like the problem I had)?

Too bad your cousin doesn't like her curly hair! Then again, it surely took me a minute to REALLY embrace mine (Let's be honest: it took years).

My mother has natural hair reluctance and is attached to the hot comb (no relaxers). Her attitude about natural hair is pretty extreme - one she shares w/many of her generation. It took a while for me to realize that my sibs and I may have disliked our hair, in part, because of her attitude toward her own. And years after going natural, I finally grasped that it's pointless to try and change her attitude. Her natural hair (from what I recall * sigh *) looks gorgeous but she "reasons" that - are you ready? - all African hair is "ugly and hard like steel wool" because of the "Biblical curse of Ham" ... I mean I just love her but she needs to invest in different reading material and get out more. Maybe - I say this sarcastically and I think you'll get it - maybe she is the one justification for that "Touch My Hair Campaign" petting zoo situation. I mean, maybe she could get educated on how soft and healthy natural hair often is. Again, I really think she suffers a lot from certain generational thinking. Seems we younger folk have advanced beyond some of this stuff. I certainly hope so. Btw, I've noticed many of my older Jewish peeps suffering the same kind of curl phobia.

You brought up the BKT and my reaction was "Oh yeah, another dodged bullet" LOL ... Have heard so many people complain about dry hair (like your cousin's) ... or general hair damage, because of that mess. Almost got this "treatment" one time. Did you ever get a BKT, or consider it?
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Luster Pink did a great job on my hair. If I was still relaxing, I'd be using that.
Originally Posted by BlackAngelPlayah
After applying and rinsing out Luster Pink, were you able to just let your hair dry naturally and it would just dry straight? ... Or did you have to tweak things further, like AdThomas and I had to?

Btw, I took a quick look at your blog pics (I'll read it later tomorrow) and ... your hair is amazing I admit too being thoroughly envious of your root lift.
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Sorry this is so long. I got all chatty from too much caffeine ...

I completely relate to the burning and scabby scalp thing! Happened so often. Just like you, they kept it on a longer time than usual. Yeah, that surely was treacherous. Never again.

Never. Again.

Are you saying "lopo" is another term for "chemically resistant"? Also, when you say you had to roller set, blow dry and wrap, do you mean that's what you had to do to make it straight again after wetting it (like the problem I had)?

Too bad your cousin doesn't like her curly hair! Then again, it surely took me a minute to REALLY embrace mine (Let's be honest: it took years).

My mother has natural hair reluctance and is attached to the hot comb (no relaxers). Her attitude about natural hair is pretty extreme - one she shares w/many of her generation. It took a while for me to realize that my sibs and I may have disliked our hair, in part, because of her attitude toward her own. And years after going natural, I finally grasped that it's pointless to try and change her attitude. Her natural hair (from what I recall * sigh *) looks gorgeous but she "reasons" that - are you ready? - all African hair is "ugly and hard like steel wool" because of the "Biblical curse of Ham" ... I mean I just love her but she needs to invest in different reading material and get out more. Maybe - I say this sarcastically and I think you'll get it - maybe she is the one justification for that "Touch My Hair Campaign" petting zoo situation. I mean, maybe she could get educated on how soft and healthy natural hair often is. Again, I really think she suffers a lot from certain generational thinking. Seems we younger folk have advanced beyond some of this stuff. I certainly hope so. Btw, I've noticed many of my older Jewish peeps suffering the same kind of curl phobia.

You brought up the BKT and my reaction was "Oh yeah, another dodged bullet" LOL ... Have heard so many people complain about dry hair (like your cousin's) ... or general hair damage, because of that mess. Almost got this "treatment" one time. Did you ever get a BKT, or consider it?
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
I mean low porosity hair is chemical resistant. Figuring out I'm lopo changed my world as far as how I take care of my natural hair.

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I see. Mine is normal/high now (though ppl's porosity can change, depending). I don't think it was lopo then, because I didn't have problems w/my hair "taking" products easily, and it definitely took color easily. Looks like I may never know why the stuff didn't work. Oh well.
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Last edited by Korkscrew; 06-14-2013 at 02:24 PM.
I see. Mine is normal/high now (though ppl's porosity can change, depending). I don't think it was lopo then, because I didn't have problems w/my hair "taking" products easily, and it definitely took color easily. Looks like I may never know why the stuff didn't work. Oh well.
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
I did okay with rinses but permanent was a disaster.
Hi Korkscrew your hair is a 3 something right? My friend's hair is like you described. She relaxes her hair but it always reverts back to curly. She says the relaxer helps to tame her curls but it doesn't make it permanently straight. Maybe you have unbreakable protein bonds. That's a good problem to have
My hair never stayed straight from relaxers. If I left in a long time to try to get it straight, it would be over processed and break off . I would just wear my hair in a loose curly wash n go. It would only stay straight until I washed it.

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My mom used to use 2 boxes of Olive Oil's super strength relaxers on my hair and it didn't get ANYWHERE near straight. My hair was still curly, but a lot more manageable. It was such a waste.
Hi Korkscrew your hair is a 3 something right? My friend's hair is like you described. She relaxes her hair but it always reverts back to curly. She says the relaxer helps to tame her curls but it doesn't make it permanently straight. Maybe you have unbreakable protein bonds. That's a good problem to have
Originally Posted by secret_karma
Hi Secretkarma! Yeah you're right. It's a very dense forest of 3b/3c w/some 3a Thanks for letting me know about your friend. It's comforting to hear it wasn't just me failed by relaxers (though I wish none of us went through it). Wish I had unbreakable protein bonds LOL I see what you're getting at but sadly, I accidentally chemically straightened my hair recently by using a box hair dye that contained too much developer. It was straightened in places and damaged. Not a cute look at all. Had to baby my hair, grow some of it out and switch over to Henna for color.

My hair never stayed straight from relaxers. If I left in a long time to try to get it straight, it would be over processed and break off . I would just wear my hair in a loose curly wash n go. It would only stay straight until I washed it.

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Originally Posted by lashon20
Lashon, more good info thanks Looks like these relaxers have failed quite a few of us.

Question: When you did your WNGs after having a relaxer, was your hair a lot less curly, or do you think there was very little difference in your curl pattern from before vs. after your relaxer? (Mine was only changed from about a 3b/c to a strong 2c/3a and that's after relaxing and then trying to blow-drying my wet hair straight )

My mom used to use 2 boxes of Olive Oil's super strength relaxers on my hair and it didn't get ANYWHERE near straight. My hair was still curly, but a lot more manageable. It was such a waste.
Originally Posted by anissafersure
Thanks for more confirmation that relaxers were and still are BS. I just remember being a kid and staring longingly at all those boxed relaxers at the grocery, of women w/straight STRAIGHT hair and thinking I could just slap some of that magic poison, oops I meant lotion, on my head, rinse it out and every strand on my skull would be forever flattened and silky with the sun rising before me amen. Guess not
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My hair was a lot looser with the relaxer like 3c. But without a relaxer I have tight 4a curls.
Hi Korkscrew your hair is a 3 something right? My friend's hair is like you described. She relaxes her hair but it always reverts back to curly. She says the relaxer helps to tame her curls but it doesn't make it permanently straight. Maybe you have unbreakable protein bonds. That's a good problem to have
Originally Posted by secret_karma
Hi Secretkarma! Yeah you're right. It's a very dense forest of 3b/3c w/some 3a Thanks for letting me know about your friend. It's comforting to hear it wasn't just me failed by relaxers (though I wish none of us went through it). Wish I had unbreakable protein bonds LOL … I see what you're getting at but sadly, I accidentally chemically straightened my hair recently by using a box hair dye that contained too much developer. It was straightened in places and damaged. Not a cute look at all. Had to baby my hair, grow some of it out and switch over to Henna for color.

My hair never stayed straight from relaxers. If I left in a long time to try to get it straight, it would be over processed and break off . I would just wear my hair in a loose curly wash n go. It would only stay straight until I washed it.

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Originally Posted by lashon20
Lashon, more good info – thanks Looks like these relaxers have failed quite a few of us.

Question: When you did your WNGs after having a relaxer, was your hair a lot less curly, or do you think there was very little difference in your curl pattern from before vs. after your relaxer? (Mine was only changed from about a 3b/c to a strong 2c/3a … and that's after relaxing and then trying to blow-drying my wet hair straight )

My mom used to use 2 boxes of Olive Oil's super strength relaxers on my hair and it didn't get ANYWHERE near straight. My hair was still curly, but a lot more manageable. It was such a waste.
Originally Posted by anissafersure
Thanks for more confirmation that relaxers were and still are BS. I just remember being a kid and staring longingly at all those boxed relaxers at the grocery, of women w/straight STRAIGHT hair and thinking I could just slap some of that magic poison, oops I meant lotion, on my head, rinse it out and every strand on my skull would be forever flattened and silky with the sun rising before me amen. Guess not
Originally Posted by Korkscrew


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Sorry this is so long. I got all chatty from too much caffeine ...

I completely relate to the burning and scabby scalp thing! Happened so often. Just like you, they kept it on a longer time than usual. Yeah, that surely was treacherous. Never again.

Never. Again.

Are you saying "lopo" is another term for "chemically resistant"? Also, when you say you had to roller set, blow dry and wrap, do you mean that's what you had to do to make it straight again after wetting it (like the problem I had)?

Too bad your cousin doesn't like her curly hair! Then again, it surely took me a minute to REALLY embrace mine (Let's be honest: it took years).

My mother has natural hair reluctance and is attached to the hot comb (no relaxers). Her attitude about natural hair is pretty extreme - one she shares w/many of her generation. It took a while for me to realize that my sibs and I may have disliked our hair, in part, because of her attitude toward her own. And years after going natural, I finally grasped that it's pointless to try and change her attitude. Her natural hair (from what I recall * sigh *) looks gorgeous but she "reasons" that - are you ready? - all African hair is "ugly and hard like steel wool" because of the "Biblical curse of Ham" ... I mean I just love her but she needs to invest in different reading material and get out more. Maybe - I say this sarcastically and I think you'll get it - maybe she is the one justification for that "Touch My Hair Campaign" petting zoo situation. I mean, maybe she could get educated on how soft and healthy natural hair often is. Again, I really think she suffers a lot from certain generational thinking. Seems we younger folk have advanced beyond some of this stuff. I certainly hope so. Btw, I've noticed many of my older Jewish peeps suffering the same kind of curl phobia.

You brought up the BKT and my reaction was "Oh yeah, another dodged bullet" LOL ... Have heard so many people complain about dry hair (like your cousin's) ... or general hair damage, because of that mess. Almost got this "treatment" one time. Did you ever get a BKT, or consider it?
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
Omg, I am ROFL LOL!! I'm crying laughing!! This was the absolute best laugh I've had today. I'm shocked my mom didn't think to use that one on me. She has gotten on my nerves about my hair in the last week and I'm trying to decide whether to be a good daughter and shrug it off or tell her. The crazy part is that she hasn't seen my hair or its progress in over a year.
I always had to get a roller set or blow dried, then flat ironed to get it straight. Soon as I'd wash my hair it would revert back. Now it was never as coarse as it is now when it was relaxed it just looked like heat damaged natural hair. My stylist would leave it on longer than necessary and spray certain spots with Sheen if I said it burned. SMH I don't think I ever got a relaxer w/out having to deal with scabs a few days later. I do not miss those days!

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I have three biracial daughters and I was constantly encouraged to perm their hair by their father's family... So I did. I have since learned better and they are all natural, however, when they were relaxed I still had to take a straighten iron to it because it always ended up having an weird wave pattern. I complete understand the unsupportive family. My mother as well as their dads family think I am crazy for not relaxing their hair. I don't have much support from either side, but I know what is best for my kids, so their opinions don't matter much to me.
I always had to get a roller set or blow dried, then flat ironed to get it straight. Soon as I'd wash my hair it would revert back. Now it was never as coarse as it is now when it was relaxed it just looked like heat damaged natural hair. My stylist would leave it on longer than necessary and spray certain spots with Sheen if I said it burned. SMH I don't think I ever got a relaxer w/out having to deal with scabs a few days later. I do not miss those days!

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Originally Posted by randi415
I remember the oil sheen for the burning. It didn't do jack. And when I complained to a stylist once about the scabs she told me to get some Neosporin. Like that should have to be used in my scalp. I have apologized too my scalp for the unnecessary torture.
I have three biracial daughters and I was constantly encouraged to perm their hair by their father's family... So I did. I have since learned better and they are all natural, however, when they were relaxed I still had to take a straighten iron to it because it always ended up having an weird wave pattern. I complete understand the unsupportive family. My mother as well as their dads family think I am crazy for not relaxing their hair. I don't have much support from either side, but I know what is best for my kids, so their opinions don't matter much to me.
Originally Posted by brimom19
I don't know how old your daughters are but I personally don't believe in putting relaxers in children's hair. I would not subject my child if I had one to even the possibility of the kind of chemical burns I had.
If they keep bothering you to relax then they must get the vibe they can pressure you enough to change your mind. You n eed to stop engaging in these conversations with them. you let them know in a firm way the answer is no and it is not up for discussion. And every time they start shut that mess down quick. You even give the look like a mama gives when you are one move away from getting your tail beat. They will get the idea. And they will leave you alone.
Their dads family doesn't bother me about it anymore. Their dad is on board and that is enough said. My mother is another issue, she has always tried to be "in my business". But as I said her opinion doesn't matter, but it doesn't stop her from stating it.

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