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Old 11-19-2013, 09:18 PM   #1
 
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Okay, so I have a frizz problem and I need help. I've tried everything. Gel, mousse, oils. Like I deep conditioned and co-wash. I put my leave in conditioner in the fridge. I have tried washing me hair with cold water, hot water, cool water, warm water and drying it with a cotton shirt. I don't know my hair type, but I'm assuming it's 4 something so I'm posting here. Thanks for the info!
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:55 PM   #2
 
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I don't think frizz is always avoidable. You should examine the ingredients in your products and do a little research on dew points to see what works best for you when. . Most people change products during the year.
Just speaking for my own hair usually my hair is super frizzy when it is not properly moisturized or I don't let it dry completely before disturbing it.
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I like to rinse out my conditioner with cool water, and I never rub my hair with my cotton t-shirt. I put products in when my hair is totally wet, arrange/ part my hair how I want, then I use the shirt just to scrunch my hair gently. Since I've started doing that I have way less frizz.
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Have u used a curl cream? How long do u deep condition? I do so overnight 4-5 nights a week and frizz isn't an issue

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Old 11-20-2013, 10:21 AM   #5
 
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Judging from some of your tendrils you might have a looser curl type however, that's not as important (I'm learning with my own hair) as things like porosity, and texture. You hair looks very dense (hairs per set area of your scalp), but I'm not confident enough to say about porosity and texture. I have low porosity hair and just discovered that my hair loved an overnight coconut oil treatment then washing and deep conditioning. On the flip side of that, my hair is fine textured and I'm afraid to try coconut oil in my styling regimen because of how much I hate the way my hair looks/feels with heavy oils (limp, no volume at all). Check out this page: Curly Hair Tips, Styles & Products - NaturallyCurly for more information. It's where I figured out all of these qualities about my hair.

If your frizz problem is a moisture problem you might have to play with things like spritzing water or a conditioning spritz on throughout the day, using the LOC/LCO method, or more protective styling like buns, braiding, etc.

Then if your problem is a holding problem you may just need a good gel or some type of holding product. I think Adthomas also had a very good point- sometimes you just can't avoid frizz even with holding product.

Last thought that has popped into my mind: I had a section of hair that was staying frizzy no matter what products/care I used a few months ago. After I got a trim (a trim for me = 1/8-1/4 or 1/2" of hair cut off and no more) I didn't have anymore problems, but my hair is also a lot shorter than yours. However it doesn't hurt If it's been a really long time since you had one, that might be a solution. Good luck!
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Have u used a curl cream? How long do u deep condition? I do so overnight 4-5 nights a week and frizz isn't an issue

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Yes and it didn't work. I deep condition for an hour. I've used so many deep conditioners. My favorite is the mixed chicks one, it makes my hair moisturized, but doesn't get rid of the frizz. I have done a deep condition overnight many times before and it doesn't help...
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Judging from some of your tendrils you might have a looser curl type however, that's not as important (I'm learning with my own hair) as things like porosity, and texture. You hair looks very dense (hairs per set area of your scalp), but I'm not confident enough to say about porosity and texture. I have low porosity hair and just discovered that my hair loved an overnight coconut oil treatment then washing and deep conditioning. On the flip side of that, my hair is fine textured and I'm afraid to try coconut oil in my styling regimen because of how much I hate the way my hair looks/feels with heavy oils (limp, no volume at all). Check out this page: Curly Hair Tips, Styles & Products - NaturallyCurly for more information. It's where I figured out all of these qualities about my hair.

If your frizz problem is a moisture problem you might have to play with things like spritzing water or a conditioning spritz on throughout the day, using the LOC/LCO method, or more protective styling like buns, braiding, etc.

Then if your problem is a holding problem you may just need a good gel or some type of holding product. I think Adthomas also had a very good point- sometimes you just can't avoid frizz even with holding product.

Last thought that has popped into my mind: I had a section of hair that was staying frizzy no matter what products/care I used a few months ago. After I got a trim (a trim for me = 1/8-1/4 or 1/2" of hair cut off and no more) I didn't have anymore problems, but my hair is also a lot shorter than yours. However it doesn't hurt If it's been a really long time since you had one, that might be a solution. Good luck!
I know I have very fine hair like you, I think I have coconut oil in my hair in the pictures. It can make my hair look very greasy at times, but I use a little bit and put more on my ends. I was afraid of using oils too because too much of it can make my hair look greasy, heavy, and limp. It makes my hair soft, but it doesn't get rid of frizz.

I need to find out what my porosity is. Thank you!
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This is my hair with gel. It's a little more defined, but still frizzy.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:53 AM   #9
 
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Poursumsugaonme! I had gone looking for information in a different thread, gave information, and learned from another poster there that her fine textured, low porosity hair loves protein treatments which help with frizz. They also mentioned that the treatments help with having tighter curls. So that might be something to look into.

Also- you may like the process that ShamelessMaya from YT had before she shaved her head. She would go through her normal wash session, take larger chunks of hair and sort of finger coil them to dry by air and/or diffuser, then separate the curls out. When I tried this, I figured out that my hair was low porosity. I squeezed as much extra water/product out that I could, air dried for a bit, and used a diffuser on my "coils". My hair wasn't really even close to being damp after 20-30 minutes, it was completely dry a few hours later. Another option, but just in case you do turn out to be low porosity I would recommend doing it on a day when you have awhile before you have to go out.
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:25 PM   #10
 
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I am not sure but I suspect you may have a moisture problem. I have fine low porosity hair so I avoid products with ingredients that speed up buildup by following the CG method. Mixed Chicks dc is not CG friendly. Neither is the li with its emulsifying wax. That is why the line has a sulfate shampoo. You dc also has Isopropyl alcohol is a drying alcohol. I think you should clarify and adjust your moisture routine and see if that helps.
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I am not sure but I suspect you may have a moisture problem. I have fine low porosity hair so I avoid products with ingredients that speed up buildup by following the CG method. Mixed Chicks dc is not CG friendly. Neither is the li with its emulsifying wax. That is why the line has a sulfate shampoo. You dc also has Isopropyl alcohol is a drying alcohol. I think you should clarify and adjust your moisture routine and see if that helps.
I just started to use mixed chicks. My frizz problem was way before it. Actually mixed chicks makes my hair super soft and not dry. I really don't want to stop using it.
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I am not sure but I suspect you may have a moisture problem. I have fine low porosity hair so I avoid products with ingredients that speed up buildup by following the CG method. Mixed Chicks dc is not CG friendly. Neither is the li with its emulsifying wax. That is why the line has a sulfate shampoo. You dc also has Isopropyl alcohol is a drying alcohol. I think you should clarify and adjust your moisture routine and see if that helps.
I just started to use mixed chicks. My frizz problem was way before it. Actually mixed chicks makes my hair super soft and not dry. I really don't want to stop using it.
Well then you are likely to be stuck with frizz.

Only you can work out what's more important getting rid of frizz by trying out adThomas' suggestion or using a product.
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Old 11-23-2013, 02:09 PM   #13
 
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Maybe you could read up on making sure your hair products are in the correct PH levels for your hair.That may help it's pretty interesting.
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Old 11-24-2013, 05:02 PM   #14
 
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I am not sure but I suspect you may have a moisture problem. I have fine low porosity hair so I avoid products with ingredients that speed up buildup by following the CG method. Mixed Chicks dc is not CG friendly. Neither is the li with its emulsifying wax. That is why the line has a sulfate shampoo. You dc also has Isopropyl alcohol is a drying alcohol. I think you should clarify and adjust your moisture routine and see if that helps.
I just started to use mixed chicks. My frizz problem was way before it. Actually mixed chicks makes my hair super soft and not dry. I really don't want to stop using it.
If whatever you were using before MC had the same types of ingredients then my inclination is the same. Of course, Going to CG friendly may or may not be the solution. I am fine, lopo, and protein sensitive so I'm not so lucky not to be picky and I always read ingredient list before buying products. All I can say is when what you're doing isn't working you have to be willng to experiment until you find what does work. Or like Blueblood said you stay with status quo. While isopropyl alcohol aka rubbing alcohol doesn't make my hair horrible I know my hair isn't as moisturized as it is capable of being. I am sure for others it is a non issue.

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I think your hair looks great. However, if you are interested in more definition, you should try the tightly curly method (or a modified version of it). Just google Terri LaFlesh or tightly curly method.
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Old 11-30-2013, 08:40 AM   #16
 
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I don't think it looks too bad.

How often do you detangle your hair?
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:30 AM   #17
 
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It looks like you aren't using enough product/gel. I would trying sectioning the hair and raking it in

Also look at Shingling.

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It looks like you aren't using enough product/gel. I would trying sectioning the hair and raking it in

Also look at Shingling.

HTH
You have a good point about the amount of product cutting down frizz. I get less frizz when I go heavier on styler but the downside is it overwhelms my fine hair by making it coated. Feels awful. Finding the right balance is tricky if you have a lot of hair that is fine. Trial and error
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