Discouraged

I'm a 4c and lately I've been trying to go natural but every time i get online to look up protective hairstyles or hair care tips all I see are things geared towards 4as,4bs, or people with transitioning hair. Is the battle really worth it to stay natural?
The battle is worth it. You just have to try. I don't hair type so I have no clue. My advice would be listen to your hair. I have my own channel but the focus is not on hair typing but giving your hair what it needs so that it can thrive. Most videos do give you a general idea on what to do and some techniques. If you need any help just let me know. Don't be discouraged.
I'm a 4c and lately I've been trying to go natural but every time i get online to look up protective hairstyles or hair care tips all I see are things geared towards 4as,4bs, or people with transitioning hair. Is the battle really worth it to stay natural?
Originally Posted by Afrocan

it really depends on what your long-term goals and needs are. but, old habits die hard and the important thing is to not beat yourself up for any decision you make that you feel is best for you... although wigs can be a fun way of providing variety also (no-glue-or-lace-front, though)...


hth!
'Poo: Aubrey Organics or Suave Clarifying
or Liquid African Black Soap (only 4-ingredients ; awesome!)
Co-Wash: Aubrey Organics or Suave Condish
Condish: Aubrey Organics or Onion Mask or Yogurt
DT: Honey + Olive Oil + AO Condish or Yogurt mix
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Best Gel Combo, Ever!: Elasta Qp Feels Like Silk Liquid Gel +/under Eco Styler [Krystal, Brown] Gel (or under Wetline Extreme Styling Gel)- awesome!!
You definitely shouldn't be discouraged. Many of the things that are good for 4a/b's could work for you too. Also, if you are looking for a method specific to 4c's then you may want to try the maximum hydration method. You can find a lot of info on youtube.
I personally never correctly determined my hair type, but I know that I fall in the 4 range. That being said, I relied on information about a plethora of hair types. I honestly don't believe that type matters nearly as much as we want to believe it does. In fact, when I stopped trying to determine my type, my hair care became easier.
Fine Strands, High Density, (Seemingly) Normal Porosity
I'm a 4c and lately I've been trying to go natural but every time i get online to look up protective hairstyles or hair care tips all I see are things geared towards 4as,4bs, or people with transitioning hair. Is the battle really worth it to stay natural?
Originally Posted by Afrocan

If you're looking for some YouTubers with a pattern similar to yours maybe try NaturalMe4C, JenellBStewart, AnnisaLiMara, Jessica Pettway, LoveLayefa and Jouellzy.
Shampoo: Shea Moisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl & Shine
Cowash: Curls Unleashed No Restrictions Conditioner
Deep Conditioner: Shea Moisture Deep Treatment Masque
Leave-In: Curls Unleashed No Boundaries
Oils: olive, argan, and Jamaican Black castor oils

Last edited by SweetRellie; 01-02-2015 at 01:38 PM.
I see a lot of people with that hair type on youtube. You can't just go by someone having your hair type that what they do their hair and what products they use will work for you. Or that someone with a different hair type can't have a product or technique that works for you. Most of my hair is 4a/3c but unlike many with this hair type twists/braids as a ps don't work well in my hair. It causes my hair to tangle badly if left more than a few days. I just saw where one of the Mowry twins is sporting braids. Her hair is looser than mine and it works for her. My only ps is a bun.
I'd say do what you like and feels right.

Though, with that said, how long have you actually been taking care of your hair in its natural state vs. non-natural state? There is a learning curve either way.

I am not really good at hair or styling in general--I can barely braid, and I couldn't really do too much cool stuff with a curling iron/flat iron when my hair was straightened.

That said, I'm still learning how to style my hair with the plethora of products available. Just keep trying. The longer and healthier it gets, the more you don't need to rely on anyone else for any advice.

The most basic thing is moisture/protein balance. I went natural (i.e. stopped relaxing/cut off relaxed hair) several times before I figured out that a lot of the habits I had were counterintuitive or were not meant for my hair in its natural state. It took me trial and error to learn what moisturizes my hair thoroughly--I also stopped reading magazines and listening to salon stylists who hadn't a clue. You can get great info from other 4c bloggers/vloggers, but you also must realize it may not even work because of your hair's porosity.

I urge you to just keep trying to give it a chance for at least a year or two. Your great--natural--hair is waiting to make its debut! I'm approaching year 2 and wish I hadn't given up so soon the many other times.



Last Relaxer: 12/24/2012
Weekly Products I'm Using:
VO5 Silky Experiences Coconut Milk Conditioner
KCKT
Grapeseed Oil
my hair is normal-ish porosity / dense / fine+medium strands
Thanks for the encouragement u guys, I'm feeling a lot better about taking care of my hair. I've only been natural for about a year and I was just fumbling along but now I'm going to explore things for all 4 hair-types
I am not in the Type 4 category however I have friends and family members who are so I would like to encourage you, [as I encourage them].

If your hair is short before you get totally frustrated and go back to the perm, you may want to try Marley twists or braids with Marley hair just until your hair gets longer.

Sisters with type 4 hair seem to enjoy being natural more once their hair is longer.

My daughter braided my granddaughter's hair with Marley hair and it looked so good! Her hair has grown out a great deal however she still wears the braids because she just started high school and feels better with more length, but wants to stay natural.

I hope this helps...
My hair is "exotic, beautiful and free",,,yeah, that be ME!!!
3B/C - Easy to straighten, [no heat ever/no protect. styling].

Low Porosity/Medium Density
Mid Width/BSL-stretched/
BC - 12/2012

I am a "Co-Wash/Finger Comb Lady!

Scalp Cleanser - SM ABS Purification Hair Masque
Co-wash - Tresemme Naturals
Hydration - SM CH Curl Smoothie
DIY - Flax Seed Gel
Styler - SM CH Curl & Style Milk
Deep Cond. - SM Manuka & Mafura DC

what exactly are you looking for? Maybe we can provide some pics/tips/ideas
Thanks for the encouragement u guys, I'm feeling a lot better about taking care of my hair. I've only been natural for about a year and I was just fumbling along but now I'm going to explore things for all 4 hair-types
Originally Posted by Afrocan

Hey Afrocan, I'm a 4a-c but my son is a 4c with low porosity, so I have familiarity with the issues you may be facing. He styles his hair in a Mohawk, which is not a protective style , but nonetheless means he has enough hair on his head for me to tell what works and doesn't.


It's funny with reading some blogs and watching youtubers. I do find there are things 3c's seem to be able to do with their hair--for example, leaving on rinse-out conditioners --that I can not. But then every product recommended by a 4 natural hair type doesn't necessarily work for me or my son's hair. What I have looked for is consistency in terms of what seems to work regardless of who is recommending it. But I also will add that sometimes 2b's or 3c's are doing regimen's and using products that they learned about through 4's, hence why there is a lot of overlap i.e.- L.O.C. method on 2b hair. Yes I have heard of that. So yes, you may be able to learn something from a 2b-3c, but most likely it's something they picked up from our camp that's working on their hair or it was something designed for a kinkier/coilier hair texture that seems to work well for them. My son and I can not take cheapie conditioners (other than for co-washing) or runny creams seriously. Our hair laughs at it.


My regimen and product usage is in my siggie. But I'll share what I'm using for my son. And I would say his regimen is the bomb and better than mine. My regimen is still a work in progress due to more complexity.


Shampoo day
  • Pre-poo with cold-pressed oils: EVOO, JBCO and/or extra virgin avocado oil (coconut oil does nothing for my son's hair)
  • Cantu shampoo for natural hair
  • Shea Moisture Manuka honey and Mafura oil masque ~ or ~ 3-4 tbsp. Shea Moisture deep treatment masque mixed w/ 1 tsp. of raw honey and 1 tbsp. EVOO (adjust accordingly)
  • L.O.C.: Eden Bodyworks leave-in conditioner, Sweet almond oil and Cantu curling cream
  • (optional- recommended to aid in sealing in moisture) Cantu curling custard for added hold or Oyin Handmade burnt sugar pomade for softness.
  • Twist-outs: As I Am twist defining cream (this is what I use but it should definitely work for you). You can coil your hair with it if it is too short to do a full twist-out.
  • Refresher: As I Am cocoa shea spray


Co-wash
  • VO5 Moisture Milks 'strawberry and cream" conditioner
  • Cantu conditioner for natural hair
  • Proceed with LOC method and style


These are just products and suggestions. Obviously there are probably a ton of things that you can use, but these are affordable and easier to find then most.


In terms of protective styling, if your hair is very fragile and snaps very easily then first you should consider using a product to balance the protein levels in your hair. Because Cantu natural hair has olefin sulfonate in it (the shampoo is still very gentle), you can pre-poo with something like Aphogee curlific texture treatment or occasionally use Aphogee two step treatment (the sample packets cost around $3.50 at Sally's) to make sure your moisture/protein levels are balanced. That should keep your hair from getting damaged easily. Other than that, I would do like adthomas suggested and throw your hair back in a bun if it's long enough. But as long as your hair is strong and healthy and you keep styling to a minimum, you should be fine.
4A-C/ med-high porosity/dense
Pre-poo: TN NC + coconut oil
Shampoo: Curly Sexy Hair
D.C.: SM DT masque mix, Eco-lesterol
Leave-in: Eden BW, SM Detangler, As I Am
Oil: Sweet Almond oil
Moisturizer/Styler:
Pudding: As I Am twist defining cream
Cream: CR Curlaide & MM
Custard: Eco custard
Butter: JC N&S
Milk: OH HD
Gel: Curls passion fruit control paste, Ecostyler, Curls Goddess Glaze & Gel-les-c
Refresher: As I Am cocoashea spray

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