Experiences with Henna?

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Hi hear you! JC Conditioner is great, but has a bit of protein in it. I've used it after henna'ing before and my hair felt horrible. Very stiff, hard and crunchy. I loved the slip of this conditioner, but I had to retire it. Stick to what you know
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oh, and yes, my hair always dries really quickly after a henna treatment as well. I did a Twist-n-Curl around 4 pm last night and it was completely dry before I went to bed! Usually, it takes until morning...sometimes its still damp in the morning!
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it took a week and now I miss it. It was like reading a novel that took me through time and space. I traveled different seasons and cities.
Anyway I also wanted to mention that I ordered from mehindiskinart three weeks ago. I know someone here is hoping to get their order quickly but I think they are known for being slow.
I ended up using no-name/no-date henna mixed with Light Mtn cassia that I got from an indian store and the local food coop. I have been reading the henna threads on 3 forums so I just made up a recipe borrowed from all of them, which included a tsp of yogurt, green tea and red zinger, Tbsp of honey and evoo. I only let the dye release for an hour in front of a heater than sat with it for two hours, also in front of a heater. My hair is pretty porous so it managed to grab some color. My grey strands are orange the rest of my head is still brown but it has an auburn glow. My 3A curl pattern survived. In fact, it's not curlier but....It's almost acting like it's not winter. It's very soft. I am turning to henna for the stregthening/thickening properties but since I am afraid of becoming a red head and also afraid of commitment I've been hesitant. When my order comes in I plan on using 100% henna and will use the amla in glosses in between hennas. I want to avoid indigo for as long as I can.

Has anyone mixed amla with henna without indigo?

Thanks CurliNikki (and all contributers) for keeping this going and sharing your experiences.
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Ok all this talk about henna and cassia has my head spinning right now. I'm still confused on what's good and what's not. But also i need to know, have any of you heard of a brand called Hask Placenta. It's Henna and Placenta mixed together and the henna is neutral, so it won't add color to your hair which is what i want. Im a big scaredy cat when it comes down to color lol. Do you girls think this will be ok to us or should just stick to the old regular henna or cassia stuff? These are the ingredients :
Purified Water , Acetamide MEA , Cetearyl Alcohol , Ceteareth-20 , Cetyl Alcohol , Soluble Collagen , Propylene Glycol , Isostearyl Ethylimidonium Ethosulfate , Henna Extract , Placenta Extract , Hexylene Glycol , Citric Acid , Imidazolidinyl Urea , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Fragrance , Glycerine , Phosphoric Acid.

I bought this a long time ago and never used it because i chickened out, but now i'm tempted to try it now. So let me know what you think. I'm thinking about using it tomorrow. Gotta sleep on it tonight lol
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^^ I think you would be better off mixing henna and cassia yourself. That stuff doesn't even contain any actual henna...

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Ok all this talk about henna and cassia has my head spinning right now. I'm still confused on what's good and what's not. But also i need to know, have any of you heard of a brand called Hask Placenta. It's Henna and Placenta mixed together and the henna is neutral, so it won't add color to your hair which is what i want. Im a big scaredy cat when it comes down to color lol. Do you girls think this will be ok to us or should just stick to the old regular henna or cassia stuff? These are the ingredients :
Purified Water , Acetamide MEA , Cetearyl Alcohol , Ceteareth-20 , Cetyl Alcohol , Soluble Collagen , Propylene Glycol , Isostearyl Ethylimidonium Ethosulfate , Henna Extract , Placenta Extract , Hexylene Glycol , Citric Acid , Imidazolidinyl Urea , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Fragrance , Glycerine , Phosphoric Acid.

I bought this a long time ago and never used it because i chickened out, but now i'm tempted to try it now. So let me know what you think. I'm thinking about using it tomorrow. Gotta sleep on it tonight lol
Originally Posted by libranessentia
This product only contains henna extract-- the 10th ingredient, and placenta--the eleventh ingredient. So, no this is not henna by any measure, not will this product impart any of the qualities of henna upon your hair. The product consists of mostly humectants & proteins that will dry your hair out if you live in a dry environment like extreme cold or heat without any moisture in the air.

You can look up the rest of the ingredients at: http://www.biracialhair.org/Ingredients.aspx

Placenta
Okay
If these were active, it could hurt your hair's cuticle. Otherwise, they do nothing in a product.
Source(s): Begoun

Acetamide MEA (aka Ethanolamine)
Caution
Increases foam, and used as a thickener. There is concern that this should not be combined with nitrates, because it could create potential carcinogens. The FDA and CIR have concluded this ingredient safe for cosmetic use. Winter, Pg 43.
Although I've been somewhat protein sensitive for a while, I think I'm needing some now. I'm planning on doing a GVP Reconstructing treatment but just wonder when in my henna cycle is the best time to do it - just before I henna, soon after I henna or somewhere in between henna treatments.

Any tips or ideas? Does the timing even matter?

Sorry if this has been discussed and I didn't find it in this super-long thread!
Originally Posted by auntnett
Auntnett - Here is a link to a Q&A on hennaforhair.com. Might answer your protein treatment question.
Originally Posted by mpgirl
Sorry, I somehow missed your answer, Mpgirl. Yeah, I had seen that thread, but it didn't really address this particular question, just made me wonder if I was wrong and didn't need protein after all. However, over a week after I did a treatment, my hair's still bouncin' and behavin' better. I did a henna/indigo gloss Sunday - one week after the protein treatment - with no ill effects at all. I mightn't have done a regular henna treatment quite that soon. . . . Thanks!
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oh wow thanks. Maybe thats the reason why i chickened out the first time. Plus i had a really wacky dream last night about using it and i had horrible hair afterwards and i was crying, but ok, i'm not going to use it then. I told you i had to sleep on it! I'll just go ahead and order the pure and real thing. Thanks girls! As for brands what's the best kind. I've seen something about Rainbow brand and I think Jamilah or something. What are good sites to go to to order this because i would go straight to amazon.com and just start ordering whatever says henna lol. But please tell me your favorite brands. I'm ready to jump on this band wagon too
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oh, and yes, my hair always dries really quickly after a henna treatment as well. I did a Twist-n-Curl around 4 pm last night and it was completely dry before I went to bed! Usually, it takes until morning...sometimes its still damp in the morning!
Originally Posted by curlynikki
Im super excited to do my first Henna of the year tomorrow! Its much needed after straightening my hair last week for Inauguration. OT, CurlyNikki, we narrowly missed each other that weekend especially at the concert and Parade (I was on 12th and Penn)! If I read your blog in time I would have recommended a few places that were fun in DC that weekend lol.
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Does anyone know if agave nectar could be used in place of the honey in the henna mixture? I think it would work since they are very similar. Thoughts?
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Does anyone know if agave nectar could be used in place of the honey in the henna mixture? I think it would work since they are very similar. Thoughts?
Originally Posted by soulsalsa
I've never used it in henna, but I bet it would be fine. If I recall, agave is a bit runnier that honey (I had some agave sweetener a while back), so that's the only thing I'd be careful about.
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Thanks for that tip, I'll remember to use less. I plan to use the agave with some Chai Redbush tea for my Jamila henna mix, it already has clove, ginger, cardamon, etc. in it. So I'm hoping those spices will help with the smell. : )
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I am pretty sure that my first Henna treatment will be this weekend....fingers crossed.
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I know you shouldn't mix Henna with commercial dye (I'm assuming its the chemical properties within the plant that make it react negatively with commercial dyes) but can you mix Cassia since it's a different plant and might have different properties?


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I have my henna in my head as we speak. Was not as messy as I thoughtbut was messy enough. I am scared. I used Reshma. I did a little research and some people have used it with positive results. I am scared...don't want orange/red hair. Gonna try to leave it on overnight...we will see. I am excited...yet scared.
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Yes. There are a lot of posts on the henna forum. I used cassia to dilute the henna b/c I was afraid of getting too red. i think I am gonna go full strength next time.

I know you shouldn't mix Henna with commercial dye (I'm assuming its the chemical properties within the plant that make it react negatively with commercial dyes) but can you mix Cassia since it's a different plant and might have different properties?
Originally Posted by Aello
3A-fi, with 2B underlayer, fine/thin hair with some wily greys.
Devacut 11/14/08. CG since late Sept 08.

New Experiments: CK, HoneyHemp CO, ACV Rinse, Honey, soap bar, aloe, KCCC, JC N&S, AOHR, AO GPB
Want to try:
Jojoba Oil or Coconut oil
GTTT
KBB
KBB Super Silky
KCNT

So I always leave my henna in for 4 hours, but is this only necessarily for those using it for dying purposes, if I left in much less long will it still have add a coat of keratin to my hair?
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So I left it in over night and I just rinsed it out....I am sitting here with deep conditiner in right now. I can't tell much right now...my color did change...it is reddish brown...not too bad...just have to buy another puff. I did not loose much hair when I detangled this morning...I had conditioner in but it detangled easily and I had VERY little hair in the comb. It did not feel soft...but not too hard either...hopefully the conditioner will solve that. Can't tell if my curls were bothered...I sure hope not... I will update once I rinse and style.
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K...hair has dried. Henna left my hair dry. It's a little drier in places...and most places have better definition ....one spot is a frizzy mess. About to rewash and see what I get.
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Today I hennaed my hair. Yesterday I had made a batch with green tea and today I further mixed it with rooibos winter punch tea that I get loose from an organic store (contained dried apples, cinnamon, and lavender and rose leaves) added amla powder and honey. Its the best batch I've made so far. My hair was so very soft afterwards which normally isn't the case with vinegared henna. Its always much stronger afterwards but never this soft.
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