Experiences with Henna?

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It's still shedding like MAD, but that has more to do with the hell that is detangling than anything else. I'm sure that in time that will get better...
Originally Posted by cammiecam
What did you use to wash it out with?
I have found that if you:
a) detangle your hair before you henna ( you can wash (or cowash) and detangle prior and henna on damp hair) , the wash out goes more easily and
b) if you rinse out the henna with tons of conditioner, like half a bottle, ( you can use a cheapie one for this) you're less with the tangles and shedding.
(((sorry about the excessive parentheticals!!!)))
LOL!
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It's still shedding like MAD, but that has more to do with the hell that is detangling than anything else. I'm sure that in time that will get better...
Originally Posted by cammiecam
What did you use to wash it out with?
I have found that if you:
a) detangle your hair before you henna ( you can wash (or cowash) and detangle prior and henna on damp hair) , the wash out goes more easily and
b) if you rinse out the henna with tons of conditioner, like half a bottle, ( you can use a cheapie one for this) you're less with the tangles and shedding.
(((sorry about the excessive parentheticals!!!)))
LOL!
Originally Posted by mermadelove
I do both of those things.. detangled before I applied the henna but I wasn't able to co-wash between the henna and indigo applications. In order for the two step to work, you can't wash or co-wash your hair between rinsing out the henna and applying the indigo. My hair was sooo dry and felt stripped after rinsing out the henna because I had only used water. So by the time I began to apply the indigo my hair was tangled and halfway dry. It was kinda like torture.

Also indigo is crumbly and cakey no matter how smooth you make it, not like henna at all. So it was difficult to just smooth into the hair, everything just turned into an even more tangled mess. More torture.

After I sat with it for the 2 hours I couldn't WAIT to get some conditioner in my hair. Used an entire bottle of TJ's Nourish Spa, then did a DC with AOHSR, THEN another detangling sessions which was what produced all that shedding. It was just that the two step was way too much stress on my hair. I would even venture to say that after all of that my hair was OVER conditioned, I cringed every time I heard that snapping noise that was my hair. I wanted to take my time but I just wanted it over with, my scalp was screaming. I had such a headache.

It's better today.. flat twisted and not to be touched this week AT ALL. MY hair needs a break.

I love the color though and it looks shiny and the curl loosened a bit which is what I wanted. I'd do it again, but I'd NEVER do the two step again. Way too much. next time (probably in about two weeks), I'll just do a hendigo or a gloss.
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So after spending a weekend in henna hell, I will say that I do like the results. My hair is shiny, jet black, moisturized and the curl pattern has loosened up a tiny bit which is a good thing for me anyway. It's still shedding like MAD, but that has more to do with the hell that is detangling than anything else. I'm sure that in time that will get better.

I'd do this again, but I'd definitely do a henna/ingido mix because my hair and scalp felt used and abused by the two step process. WAY too much manipulation...
Originally Posted by cammiecam
It's still shedding like MAD, but that has more to do with the hell that is detangling than anything else. I'm sure that in time that will get better...
Originally Posted by cammiecam
What did you use to wash it out with?
I have found that if you:
a) detangle your hair before you henna ( you can wash (or cowash) and detangle prior and henna on damp hair) , the wash out goes more easily and
b) if you rinse out the henna with tons of conditioner, like half a bottle, ( you can use a cheapie one for this) you're less with the tangles and shedding.
(((sorry about the excessive parentheticals!!!)))
LOL!
Originally Posted by mermadelove
I do both of those things.. detangled before I applied the henna but I wasn't able to co-wash between the henna and indigo applications. In order for the two step to work, you can't wash or co-wash your hair between rinsing out the henna and applying the indigo. My hair was sooo dry and felt stripped after rinsing out the henna because I had only used water. So by the time I began to apply the indigo my hair was tangled and halfway dry. It was kinda like torture.

Also indigo is crumbly and cakey no matter how smooth you make it, not like henna at all. So it was difficult to just smooth into the hair, everything just turned into an even more tangled mess. More torture.

After I sat with it for the 2 hours I couldn't WAIT to get some conditioner in my hair. Used an entire bottle of TJ's Nourish Spa, then did a DC with AOHSR, THEN another detangling sessions which was what produced all that shedding. It was just that the two step was way too much stress on my hair. I would even venture to say that after all of that my hair was OVER conditioned, I cringed every time I heard that snapping noise that was my hair. I wanted to take my time but I just wanted it over with, my scalp was screaming. I had such a headache.

It's better today.. flat twisted and not to be touched this week AT ALL. MY hair needs a break.

I love the color though and it looks shiny and the curl loosened a bit which is what I wanted. I'd do it again, but I'd NEVER do the two step again. Way too much. next time (probably in about two weeks), I'll just do a hendigo or a gloss.
Originally Posted by cammiecam
Wow.....bummer!!! I've actually had great luck with henna glosses. I've never worked with the two step process, just with the henna and indigo premixed.

I'm sending you healing hair vibes!
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Hi , i have had henna that has been harvested since 2007 in my freezer since I got it. I had gotten about 100 boxes .. but stopped using it because of the red colour it deposited. I want to start back in Jan and want to know it it would be ok to use since it has been in the freezer all this time .. orrr if i have to pitch it
Originally Posted by bambii
I am no expert on henna, but from a pure food/herbal perspective, I would hesitate to use anything that's been in the freezer 6 months to a year. And it sounds like your batch has been in there twice that long. I don't think your hair will fall out or anything, but I think you will have to do a lot more treatments to get the color/conditioning results you would get from a fresh batch. It sounds like you were saturated on the color anyway, so maybe if you just do what you usually do it would take longer for the color to saturate your hair and you could do treatments for longer. It's worth a shot. I would try a treatment and if you don't get any negative results, keep on going!
It'll save you money. But in the future, I would buy small batches to keep it fresh if you don't plan to consistently henna.
Originally Posted by mermadelove
Thanks a bunch for answering. Im going to buy another big batch because when I big chop next year I plan to henna twice a week. I just have to make sure my supplier will still be available next year around my BC date. However im going to keep the old set and use that for henna glosses in my deep treatment
Transitioning since Sep 17 2009
BC Due Date: Jam 30 2010
Oct 24 2009 - made henna and put in freezer for the day of my bc .. yes i know .. i prepare well in advance
@bambii
I am lucky that the healing center at which I work I am able to buy in bulk organic henna at a discount!!! But I hear you
about staying supplied!! I haven't received my order yet so I went to the health food store today and bought 4 oz for $7!!
Fortunately, I used a gelled henna recipe which made it so that I only used 1/3 of the container for my shoulder lenght hair!! Henna has become my personal brand of hair heroine !!
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@bambii
I am lucky that the healing center at which I work I am able to buy in bulk organic henna at a discount!!! But I hear you
about staying supplied!! I haven't received my order yet so I went to the health food store today and bought 4 oz for $7!!
Fortunately, I used a gelled henna recipe which made it so that I only used 1/3 of the container for my shoulder lenght hair!! Henna has become my personal brand of hair heroine !!
Originally Posted by mermadelove
Lol i loved henna too, started using it back in 2007 and it made my hair very shiny and soft however the red colour was killing me . I have naturally jet black , or so I thought until I found a patch of my hair that was bright red from the henna . It was not cute at all , and I stopped using it lol. But this time around I dont think I will really care. With repetitive uses of henna my hair should be stronger than ever !
Transitioning since Sep 17 2009
BC Due Date: Jam 30 2010
Oct 24 2009 - made henna and put in freezer for the day of my bc .. yes i know .. i prepare well in advance
Wow...I'm really curious about henna and indigo but Idk if I'm up for the challenege lol. How long did it take u? I feel overwhelmed when I read these henna threads b/c I would wanna use amla as well (for curl retention) and it sounds like several things to do at once

How did u prevent the running colors from staining the floor etc?

So after spending a weekend in henna hell, I will say that I do like the results. My hair is shiny, jet black, moisturized and the curl pattern has loosened up a tiny bit which is a good thing for me anyway. It's still shedding like MAD, but that has more to do with the hell that is detangling than anything else. I'm sure that in time that will get better.

I'd do this again, but I'd definitely do a henna/ingido mix because my hair and scalp felt used and abused by the two step process. WAY too much manipulation...
Originally Posted by cammiecam
i have indigo on the way. i was just wondering, do you have to henna first?? my last henna was in july. my hair has always been super dark, like 2 seconds from being jet black. people couldn't even tell i'd henna'ed.

so should i henna first? or am i ok with just the indigo?
i have indigo on the way. i was just wondering, do you have to henna first?? my last henna was in july. my hair has always been super dark, like 2 seconds from being jet black. people couldn't even tell i'd henna'ed.

so should i henna first? or am i ok with just the indigo?
Originally Posted by mousey

yes, you should always henna before you indigo
Transitioning since Sep 17 2009
BC Due Date: Jam 30 2010
Oct 24 2009 - made henna and put in freezer for the day of my bc .. yes i know .. i prepare well in advance
I just did a full henna treatment with Fia's gelled henna recipe from http://www.hennaforhair.com/mixes/annsophie/ .
I have to say, it washed out so easily!!! It was as easy as washing out a henna gloss. I was wondering if it would help you ladies doing indigo treatments ( either one step or two) to use this method for eas of application and rinsing out. I am telling you that the gelled henna recipe was a mess free application!!!!
It stayed where I put it on my head and rinsed out like a dream. FYI: I used red wine for my acid component, and I added olive oil and essential oils of lavender, tea tree and rosemary to my mix. So I guess you could add whatever you want to it and have it work.
Blessed hair journeys!!
P.S. My 2 pounds of organic henna from mountain rose came in today. YAY!!! I have to wait until next week to try it, though because I just hennaed last night!!!!
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So I have done the Henna and Indigo thing and i have gotten pretty good results. It is time consuming but if you time it right it can be better. Do the henna say on a Friday night. Then wash it out and mix nad apply the indigo. Sleep in it and wash it out in the mornng. I don't alway DT at taht time but i will do a co wash later (next day) and maybe DT. It's time consuming but it works.
"We Live From the Head Down and Not the Feet Up" ~Donnie
Hey I decided to post my pictures after doing my Henna Indigo

http://public.fotki.com/ywoodard/henna-and-indigo/

You'll notice my hair was really red from some chemical color. I actually henna/Indigoed twice to get here because i didn't leave the indigo on long enough the first time and the back got brown not black or even dark dark brown.
"We Live From the Head Down and Not the Feet Up" ~Donnie
So after spending a weekend in henna hell, I will say that I do like the results. My hair is shiny, jet black, moisturized and the curl pattern has loosened up a tiny bit which is a good thing for me anyway. It's still shedding like MAD, but that has more to do with the hell that is detangling than anything else. I'm sure that in time that will get better.

I'd do this again, but I'd definitely do a henna/ingido mix because my hair and scalp felt used and abused by the two step process. WAY too much manipulation...
Originally Posted by cammiecam
What did you use to wash it out with?
I have found that if you:
a) detangle your hair before you henna ( you can wash (or cowash) and detangle prior and henna on damp hair) , the wash out goes more easily and
b) if you rinse out the henna with tons of conditioner, like half a bottle, ( you can use a cheapie one for this) you're less with the tangles and shedding.
(((sorry about the excessive parentheticals!!!)))
LOL!
Originally Posted by mermadelove
I do both of those things.. detangled before I applied the henna but I wasn't able to co-wash between the henna and indigo applications. In order for the two step to work, you can't wash or co-wash your hair between rinsing out the henna and applying the indigo. My hair was sooo dry and felt stripped after rinsing out the henna because I had only used water. So by the time I began to apply the indigo my hair was tangled and halfway dry. It was kinda like torture.

Also indigo is crumbly and cakey no matter how smooth you make it, not like henna at all. So it was difficult to just smooth into the hair, everything just turned into an even more tangled mess. More torture.

After I sat with it for the 2 hours I couldn't WAIT to get some conditioner in my hair. Used an entire bottle of TJ's Nourish Spa, then did a DC with AOHSR, THEN another detangling sessions which was what produced all that shedding. It was just that the two step was way too much stress on my hair. I would even venture to say that after all of that my hair was OVER conditioned, I cringed every time I heard that snapping noise that was my hair. I wanted to take my time but I just wanted it over with, my scalp was screaming. I had such a headache.

It's better today.. flat twisted and not to be touched this week AT ALL. MY hair needs a break.

I love the color though and it looks shiny and the curl loosened a bit which is what I wanted. I'd do it again, but I'd NEVER do the two step again. Way too much. next time (probably in about two weeks), I'll just do a hendigo or a gloss.
Originally Posted by cammiecam
Wow.....bummer!!! I've actually had great luck with henna glosses. I've never worked with the two step process, just with the henna and indigo premixed.

I'm sending you healing hair vibes!
Originally Posted by mermadelove
Thank you! My hair/head feels sooo much better. Feels amazing tooo! I can say that I am officially a henna head. Definitely doing it again.. well a hendigo anyway.
Natural.. Take Two!
Wow...I'm really curious about henna and indigo but Idk if I'm up for the challenege lol. How long did it take u? I feel overwhelmed when I read these henna threads b/c I would wanna use amla as well (for curl retention) and it sounds like several things to do at once

How did u prevent the running colors from staining the floor etc?

So after spending a weekend in henna hell, I will say that I do like the results. My hair is shiny, jet black, moisturized and the curl pattern has loosened up a tiny bit which is a good thing for me anyway. It's still shedding like MAD, but that has more to do with the hell that is detangling than anything else. I'm sure that in time that will get better.

I'd do this again, but I'd definitely do a henna/ingido mix because my hair and scalp felt used and abused by the two step process. WAY too much manipulation...
Originally Posted by cammiecam
Originally Posted by MixedUpCurlyChick
I did the henna Friday night, slept in it, washed it out, then did the indigo that Saturday morning. To keep the blue indigo from dripping all over everything I just kept my head up right and kept a towel around my shoulders to keep things from dripping.

I put huge old posters on the floor of the bathroom to catch the crumbly indigo. newspaper would be a good idea too.
Natural.. Take Two!
Cammiecam so sorry to here about your issues with the two step process. I was wondering how much water you were using in your henna? It draws water so make sure that your mix is like stirred yogurt especially if you are only using water in your mix. You can also put some coconut oil on your hair before you apply the henna to prevent dryness. Let it soak in as long as possible first. It won't stop the color from taking.

I wonder why it made your hair so tangled. Did you make sure that you didn't scrunch your hair up while you were rinsing the powders out? Did you let the conditioner sit on your hair and soften your strands up before you starting detangling?
Cammiecam so sorry to here about your issues with the two step process. I was wondering how much water you were using in your henna? It draws water so make sure that your mix is like stirred yogurt especially if you are only using water in your mix. You can also put some coconut oil on your hair before you apply the henna to prevent dryness. Let it soak in as long as possible first. It won't stop the color from taking.

I wonder why it made your hair so tangled. Did you make sure that you didn't scrunch your hair up while you were rinsing the powders out? Did you let the conditioner sit on your hair and soften your strands up before you starting detangling?
Originally Posted by vkb247
I didn't scrunch my hair while rinsing out the henna.. at least I don't think I did. My hair is prone to tangling because it's extremely tightly curled at the crown. I usually wash my hair in four sections to prevent tangles but with the henna I wasn't able to do that since it was all one big mass of hair.

I actually ended up stirring MORE water into the indigo halfway through the application to see if that would help but indigo is just crumbly, that's just the nature of it's texture I guess. It was already too watery because for the two hours I had it on my head I was dripping quite a bit.

I let the condish sit for more than an hour before detangling, and even slapped more into each section as I detangled in an attempt to make it easier...

I will DEFINITELY try the coconut oil in between the two treatments if I decide to do it again. My hair needed some kind moisture after rinsing out the henna. I was just afraid that the color wouldn't take if I used anything...

Thanks for the advice!
Natural.. Take Two!

Last edited by cammiecam; 10-28-2009 at 02:09 PM.
@camimiecam:
I'm so glad your hair is happy again!!! Yaay! I hate hair trauma! I mentioned above that I did a gelled henna application that made the rinse out waaaaaaay easy-- like a henna gloss. If yo do the two step process again, maybe try that for the henna part or bnoth parts!! The upside of the gelled henna is that you use way less henna for great results. I used 50grams and I have thick, shoulder length hair when dry!
Keep us posted!
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@camimiecam:
I'm so glad your hair is happy again!!! Yaay! I hate hair trauma! I mentioned above that I did a gelled henna application that made the rinse out waaaaaaay easy-- like a henna gloss. If yo do the two step process again, maybe try that for the henna part or bnoth parts!! The upside of the gelled henna is that you use way less henna for great results. I used 50grams and I have thick, shoulder length hair when dry!
Keep us posted!
Originally Posted by mermadelove
I HALVED the recipe that was posted at hennaforhair.
It was plenty!
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wash: JC Hair Cleansing Cream or cowash
Leave in: HE Dangerously Straight, HE HH
Occasional Treatmet/Pre-poo: AV Shikakai Growth Elixir, Wild Woozle Tiare Pomade, Ojon Restorative Hair Tx
Tightly Curly Method Convert <3 cured of PJism (alas.....) Now I'm a makeup PJ!!!
BC'd on 6/17/10!!!! Do I like it?? I love it!!
~*~~*Sparkle on!*~~*~
That was another thing too. I had mixed 100g thinking that would be enough for my hair but ended up using 150g (had to unfreeze a batch I had made earlier in the week when I was working with the first 100 and realized that I was gonna need more) and used almost an entire 200g of the indigo. I apparently had more hair than I thought I did! LOL!

I'll check out the gelled henna recipe. Thanks luv!
Natural.. Take Two!
You're welcome!!! Let me know how it works out!!
How long/thick is your hair? It's hard to tell from your avatar.
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wash: JC Hair Cleansing Cream or cowash
Leave in: HE Dangerously Straight, HE HH
Occasional Treatmet/Pre-poo: AV Shikakai Growth Elixir, Wild Woozle Tiare Pomade, Ojon Restorative Hair Tx
Tightly Curly Method Convert <3 cured of PJism (alas.....) Now I'm a makeup PJ!!!
BC'd on 6/17/10!!!! Do I like it?? I love it!!
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