Experiences with Henna?

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I just purchase some Shakaki and some other herbs and oils rom Henna Sooq. What I like about that site is you can order samples to try out the herbs and oils. I have yet to use them but am very anxious to try them on my hair.

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I can't order online or get it delivered. Anyways, how about in San Francisco? I could check there but I really wish there was henna here that's closer. I don't really go to SF that much, so I wanna be sure I know where to find it. Thanks.
i thought i would try henna again and quitting it years back and the results were quite nice. I used the rajasthani twilight henna from hennaforhair and ive never had so much dye release. Im said i messed with jamila for as long as i did because it wasnt worth it. If you havent already tried this dye i recommend it. the texture was silky and smooth and it washed out very well. My hair feels really silky now.
4a hair. MOD CG routine.

Present Loves
-Back on the (rajasthani) henna train! My hair is so much better now.
-KBB hair butter mixed with Hairveda Cocasta oil
-Spiral Solutions Deeply Decadent
I finally found henna at Sally's Beauty Supply store. I got the Reshma Femme Henna for Natural highlights which is supposed to be 100% henna and Reshma Femme Henna Natural Burgundy which has other ingredients. I'm aiming for a burgundy or auburn color but I'm not sure whether I should try the 100% henna because im not sure how it's gonna come out or the burgundy one which is the color I'm hoping for but it has additives. By the way, I have black hair but some of it has lightened up into brown and some kind of coppery. Any ideas? And has anyone used this brand before? Im thinking of testing it out in the underlayers of my hair or streaks like highlights.
Yesterday:
-finger-detangled w/ water/glycerin spritz & coconut oil
-henna-ed w/ 60 grams of Godrej Nupur Mehendi & 1 cup of Goya Coconut Milk

Today:
-co-wash-ed with Esencia Mandarin and Citrus Volumizing Conditioner
-deep conditioned w/ a DIY Mix (3/4 cup plain Greek yogurt, 1/4 cup Goya coconut milk, 1 tbsp coconut oil, 1 tbsp castor oil, 1 tbsp glycerin)

I henna-ed overnight. The henna rinsed out easily and didn't stain the bathtub. After the henna, my hair felt stronger yet still soft. After deep conditioning for an hour, my hair felt super soft. Now I'm off to moisturize, seal, stretch and style!
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Last edited by Fronomenal; 06-22-2013 at 10:12 AM.
Did henna yesterday for the 6th time this year. Once a month. It really works like a long lasting dt for me and give me brown/reddish glow to my hair. Makes my hair stringer and softer. I loooooove it. I recommend it for you who have brown to black hair, high porouse 3c hair. It does wonders to the hair.
Hair type/properties:
3c hair, high porosity, mediumdensity, low elasticity, fine hair.

Curly hair routine/regime:
Combine the modified cg-method (low poo) and a modified tightly curly method.
-Condition and leave in: Aubrey Organics, Giovanni Barzilian keratin and argan oil
-Sealer: shea butter, Argan, olive and coconutoil
-Gel: homemade flaxseed gel, Kinky curly custard, Queen Helene Curl royal shaping creme.
Did a henna melt with added indigo from Njoi on etsy. Didn't leave it in long enough. Some of my grays have reddish brown highlights, but the color didn't take at all to the gray in the front and the edges. Strange. Without the indigo those hairs were bright orange. Anyway, I guess I will do it again at the end of month and leave it for 4 hours instead of 1.

My hair was soft after using the melt.
I did my second henna treatment. Hair is extremely soft and takes product a lot better
4a hair. MOD CG routine.

Present Loves
-Back on the (rajasthani) henna train! My hair is so much better now.
-KBB hair butter mixed with Hairveda Cocasta oil
-Spiral Solutions Deeply Decadent
I retouched my gray roots tonight. the color took better than last time. I've learned Imust henna on freshly shampooed hair. with no conditioner in it.
I'm pretty sure I f****d myself over with my last henna concoction. Long story short: I had 4 inches of new growth and wanted it a lighter shade than the rest of my already hennaed hair. I had already added Suave Coconut Conditioner and amla to my mix when I realized it was much too runny - runnier than when I did my strand test. So I added some Knox pectin and a large box of gelatin instant jello mix to thicken it up.

I think it was protein overload that did me in (protein in the conditioner, pectin and gelatin). Plus, henna already mimics protein. Of course the amla only dried me out more. On top of all that, I was using protein-heavy hair products for regular routine after that. My hair looked and felt trashed. Straight, straw-like and fly-away. Took weeks of DC rehab and pampering and it's just now looking more or less normal At first, it took a minute to even figure out why my hair had changed. I was too panicked to think straight. The change in texture was so weird, so different that I forgot about the henna mix and thought it was hormones, gray hairs suddenly changing texture, hard water problems or hidden cones. I thought it might even be time to cut all my hair off and hit reset. Saying all this in case someone has a bad reaction after a henna mixture - that it could be something added to the henna.
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Last edited by Korkscrew; 07-10-2013 at 05:06 PM.
I'm pretty sure I f****d myself over with my last henna concoction. Long story short: I had 4 inches of new growth and wanted it a lighter shade than the rest of my already hennaed hair. I had already added Suave Coconut Conditioner and amla to my mix when I realized it was much too runny - runnier than when I did my strand test. So I added some Knox pectin and a large box of gelatin instant jello mix to thicken it up.

I think it was protein overload that did me in (protein in the conditioner, pectin and gelatin). Plus, henna already mimics protein. Of course the amla only dried me out more. On top of all that, I was using protein-heavy hair products for regular routine after that. My hair looked and felt trashed. Straight, straw-like and fly-away. Took weeks of DC rehab and pampering and it's just now looking more or less normal At first, it took a minute to even figure out why my hair had changed. I was too panicked to think straight. The change in texture was so weird, so different that I forgot about the henna mix and thought it was hormones, gray hairs suddenly changing texture, hard water problems or hidden cones. I thought it might even be time to cut all my hair off and hit reset. Saying all this in case someone has a bad reaction after a henna mixture - that it could be something added to the henna.
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
Protein overload is nothing nice. It takes a while for my hair to bounce back from henna. And I dont use anything with protein with it or immediatey after. I have a few setback from protein overload where I had to cut an inch of two of hair.
I spoke too soon when I said henna covered my grays well, once dry i could see it didnt. I decided to do a complete head henna for the first time in a year. Usually I just touch up gray roots in front. For my dark hair you cant see where henna stops and natural color starts because my hair is reddish brown. Anyway left it in two hours and still not a lot on color deposited in grays. Took the cream henna and slept in it last night. Better but still light. As my grays get longer the repeated henna darkens ends to color I like but nott roots. Is this because Im lopo. Tips for color absorb improvement.?
Protein overload is nothing nice. It takes a while for my hair to bounce back from henna.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Nothing nice and NOT cute to behold I forgot about something: my wretched henna/condish/pectin/gelatin concoction initially came out looking too light and the next day I reapplied the rest of the batch to my hair, to keep in for another 4 hours. So basically I protein overdosed my hair twice in 2 days

And I dont use anything with protein with it or immediatey after. I have a few setback from protein overload where I had to cut an inch of two of hair.
Phew, that's brutal. I definitely think I was almost to that point myself. As for what might better darken your gray roots: what about adding just a touch of indigo to your mix (only applying it to the roots), making sure to strand test it to get a reasonable color from it?
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Protein overload is nothing nice. It takes a while for my hair to bounce back from henna.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Nothing nice and NOT cute to behold I forgot about something: my wretched henna/condish/pectin/gelatin concoction initially came out looking too light and the next day I reapplied the rest of the batch to my hair, to keep in for another 4 hours. So basically I protein overdosed my hair twice in 2 days

And I dont use anything with protein with it or immediatey after. I have a few setback from protein overload where I had to cut an inch of two of hair.
Phew, that's brutal. I definitely think I was almost to that point myself. As for what might better darken your gray roots: what about adding just a touch of indigo to your mix (only applying it to the roots), making sure to strand test it to get a reasonable color from it?
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
Ok. I do have some indigo. Never really used it because i thought two step and after henna not in the mood. I read on Hennasooq that cassia and black tea darkens grays. Will try that too.
Protein overload is nothing nice. It takes a while for my hair to bounce back from henna.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Nothing nice and NOT cute to behold I forgot about something: my wretched henna/condish/pectin/gelatin concoction initially came out looking too light and the next day I reapplied the rest of the batch to my hair, to keep in for another 4 hours. So basically I protein overdosed my hair twice in 2 days

And I dont use anything with protein with it or immediatey after. I have a few setback from protein overload where I had to cut an inch of two of hair.
Phew, that's brutal. I definitely think I was almost to that point myself. As for what might better darken your gray roots: what about adding just a touch of indigo to your mix (only applying it to the roots), making sure to strand test it to get a reasonable color from it?
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
Ok. I do have some indigo. Never really used it because i thought two step and after henna not in the mood. I read on Hennasooq that cassia and black tea darkens grays. Will try that too.
Originally Posted by adthomas
It is a two-step process:

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texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal
co-wash - NaturelleGrow Coconut Water or Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark & Blue Malva Cleansing Conditioners
LI - KCKT mixed w/ SM C & H Curl & Style Milk
DC - NG Mango & Coconut H2O or Chamomile/Brdck Root
Gel - SM souffle (winter), KCCC (summer) or CR Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel (year round)
Sealers - Virgin Coconut Oil, Avocado butter, Aloe butter
Ayurvedic treatments - Jamila Henna, Sukesh, Aloe Vera Powder, Hibiscus Powder
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Ok. I do have some indigo. Never really used it because i thought two step and after henna not in the mood. I read on Hennasooq that cassia and black tea darkens grays. Will try that too.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Yeah, that 2-step thing is a drawback. Another drawback is if you accidentally go too dark w/it, you won't be able to lighten your hair again w/out taking drastic measures. So I was thinking about all this and have some other questions for you, before considering adding indigo:

You mentioned here or on another henna-related thread that you were using a "henna cream". Do you know what exactly is in that cream besides henna (if you're still using that form of henna)? Based on the info I got from Mehandi.com (whose founder has a PhD in henna, of all things lol), certain additives can significantly weaken the strength and color of henna. Another consideration is what type of henna you've been using, which reflects how high or low the lawsone content is. For ex., Jamila has less lawsone (therefore a weaker stain) than something like Rajasthani henna (very strong stain). And so Raj would probably offer better gray coverage. But with Raj you will get a burgundy/wine/auburn color - a deeper red than the Jamila. That's the trade off. So if you haven't already, you can try Raj w/out nothing added to it except warm water and some type of acid, for dye release ... if you're willing to go deep red/burgundy.
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Last edited by Korkscrew; 07-16-2013 at 12:34 PM.
Ok. I do have some indigo. Never really used it because i thought two step and after henna not in the mood. I read on Hennasooq that cassia and black tea darkens grays. Will try that too.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Yeah, that 2-step thing is a drawback. Another drawback is if you accidentally go too dark w/it, you won't be able to lighten your hair again w/out taking drastic measures. So I was thinking about all this and have some other questions for you, before considering adding indigo:

You mentioned here or on another henna-related thread that you were using a "henna cream". Do you know what exactly is in that cream besides henna (if you're still using that form of henna)? Based on the info I got from Mehandi.com (whose founder has a PhD in henna, of all things lol), certain additives can significantly weaken the strength and color of henna. Another consideration is what type of henna you've been using, which reflects how high or low the lawsone content is. For ex., Jamila has less lawsone (therefore a weaker stain) than something like Rajasthani henna (very strong stain). And so Raj would probably offer better gray coverage. But with Raj you will get a burgundy/wine/auburn color - a deeper red than the Jamila. That's the trade off. So if you haven't already, you can try Raj w/out nothing added to it except warm water and some type of acid, for dye release ... if you're willing to go deep red/burgundy.
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
I alternate. I have two henna creams. Surya which I dont think works well and Reshma which works better. I have a pure henna powder I got at Tunisian store but it doesnt say what kind. Only made in Lebanon. I have ordered raj from henna sooq and it made my grays light orangy. I didnt like it. But then I did mix it with tea because Im terrified to overdo the red because my har already has red undertones. I like the creams because I dont like applying to my whole head and having to help my hair recover from henna shock.
LOL now I have more questions ... I'm going to go ahead and research a few things based on what you just said. Then I'll get right back to you
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AdT, sorry it took this long to get back to you! I read up on Surya and Reshma creams (and powders), and did a little more research on henna in general.

Surya cream often contain very little henna (lawsonia inermis is far down on the ingredients list), plus some other ingredients in it are drying. Wasn't able to locate an ingredients list for Reshma cream, even on Amazon. Have to wonder how much actual henna is in that too. Maybe you know the answer to this already. Anyway, if the creams you were using were so Henna-weak, it makes sense that it would be a gray coverage fail.

In perusing various forums, the one approach people consistantly raved about for gray coverage with toned down red, was the use of some combo of henna and indigo. Some people also added amla or cassia to their mix. Also, not everyone did the 2-step process. Some just mixed it all together (which means the indigo likely demised before it had a chance to work at full strength). I think the 2-step process is probably more reliable, but strand tests are good for figuring that out, of course.

Whenever I've had complicated questions about henna, indigo, amla, etc., I've gone ahead and called up the folks at Mehandi.com. They seem to have more knowledge about these things than the Henna Sooq people IMO. ... But to be fair, I only once spoke with a Henna Sooq rep, so my view is a little narrow. I've spoken to the Mehandi folks about 5 times lol. Anyway, that might be worth your time if you haven't already figured out what you'd like to do
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AdT, sorry it took this long to get back to you! I read up on Surya and Reshma creams (and powders), and did a little more research on henna in general.

Surya cream often contain very little henna (lawsonia inermis is far down on the ingredients list), plus some other ingredients in it are drying. Wasn't able to locate an ingredients list for Reshma cream, even on Amazon. Have to wonder how much actual henna is in that too. Maybe you know the answer to this already. Anyway, if the creams you were using were so Henna-weak, it makes sense that it would be a gray coverage fail.

In perusing various forums, the one approach people consistantly raved about for gray coverage with toned down red, was the use of some combo of henna and indigo. Some people also added amla or cassia to their mix. Also, not everyone did the 2-step process. Some just mixed it all together (which means the indigo likely demised before it had a chance to work at full strength). I think the 2-step process is probably more reliable, but strand tests are good for figuring that out, of course.

Whenever I've had complicated questions about henna, indigo, amla, etc., I've gone ahead and called up the folks at Mehandi.com. They seem to have more knowledge about these things than the Henna Sooq people IMO. ... But to be fair, I only once spoke with a Henna Sooq rep, so my view is a little narrow. I've spoken to the Mehandi folks about 5 times lol. Anyway, that might be worth your time if you haven't already figured out what you'd like to do
Originally Posted by Korkscrew
Thanks for taking the time to look all that up. I def dont like the Surya. I bought it once and it is just taking a long time polish off. I have cassia. Indigo and henna so Im going to experiment. My original plan starting henna was once a month but My hair is growing so fast. Had to go to two weeks. I only get grays in the top front. I dread when I start having to touch up roots all over my head.

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