Experiences with Henna?

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Hello! Hope you ladies don't mind a 3a/b stopping by, but you have this nice henna thread

I see that Lexie, in some of her experiments, has managed to create a golden blonde mix. So that is one option. It does kind of make me nervous getting the henna/indigo mix right though. I don't want to end up green, or dark brown.

I'm seriously considering hennaing all of it red. But it's such a drastic change and so permanent, it will never lift like the drugstore product did. Plus I'll have to shelve all my brown eyeliner and yellow gold jewelry

My tentative plan is this: first, see how the strand tests/skin tests go. Assuming no disaster there, I will at least cassia my whole head and see how I like that. If I liked how the golden blonde strand test turned out, I will try that too. I will buy enough henna so that if I turn out green or something from the golden blonde attempt, I can straight up henna over the top.

Any advice/thoughts?
Originally Posted by Riot Crrl
I'm a 3a who also follows this thread so I hope it's okay to mention my experiences (I seem to be plugging henna all the time ). I tried Lexie's experiments for the golden blonde and ended up going for it on my whole head. I had most of a head of dyed chemical light chestnut (Naturtint) and a lot of grey roots. I'm about 50% grey and didn't want orange roots. I found the one-step method gave me light golden brown/blonde on the grey, and reddish golden brown on the length. Lexie's two step gave me the same colour on the grey but a much darker brown on the length. So I did a one-step. My hair is definitely turning redder, but there's no hint of orange on the grey. That's staying golden brown/blonde and it doesn't seem to fade on me. I altered her mix slightly, using equal quantities of henna, indigo and cassia mixed with chamomile tea and honey. I only leave it on for an hour. The second time I did the roots, then made a gloss with a bowl of cassia and a spoonful of the henna mix and put it on the length.

This way I do miss out on the best conditioning of pure all-over henna, but what I do get is some great conditioning.

On the green bit: BAQ henna is so powerful that even if you put a henna/indigo mix straight on your head without waiting for any dye release, you'd most likely get enough dye activation from your own body heat to kill the green. I use hot tea so it kick-starts dye release straight away for me. Getting blonde/light brown seems to rely on not too much dye release from the henna, and waiting for some of indigo's potency to have died off.

Also, I've read that Feria is a metallic dye (but that might not be right), so henna on top may cause different reactions/colours.

I've got a few pics in my fotki (PW: frizzy) but they make my hair look darker than it is, and don't show the golden blonde on grey.
Thanks for your reply Chrysovyi!

My natural color is pretty close to your "before" but ashier, and with more grey. However it's much more yellow now (un)thanks to the Feria.

It looks like you have had great results! Do you mind the extra red coming in or is it OK with you?

From all I have read, it seems that even if I do have metals from the Feria, 100% pure henna/indigo/cassia should be OK to put on it. In terms of safety, though I imagine it could affect dye uptake. I'll do thorough testing first, in any case.

Since I last posted, I've been reading the e-book. It seems from this, that if you treat cassia like henna (mix with acid and wait for a dye release) it will itself become a golden dye and stain white hair golden. I think I will try this first, assuming all strand and skin tests are a go.
I've bought the Jamila Henna in the clear cellophane w/no expiration ae and used it - it worked just fine for me.

I hennaed Saturday night with my Red Zinger Tea instead of water and got a rich, cherry brown tone. No orange at all!!
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It looks like you have had great results! Do you mind the extra red coming in or is it OK with you?
Originally Posted by Riot Crrl
I don't mind the red at the moment, but I don't want it to get too dark, and I'd prefer to keep it more golden than burgundy because it suits my colouring better. I'll have to see how it goes!

Since I last posted, I've been reading the e-book. It seems from this, that if you treat cassia like henna (mix with acid and wait for a dye release) it will itself become a golden dye and stain white hair golden. I think I will try this first, assuming all strand and skin tests are a go.
I remember there were some good experiments on the Long Hair Community using cassia to dye, and I know a few people on the hennaforhair forum are going to try phasing out henna and using just cassia to blend in increasing amounts of grey.

Good luck with your strand tests!
I've bought the Jamila Henna in the clear cellophane w/no expiration ae and used it - it worked just fine for me.

I hennaed Saturday night with my Red Zinger Tea instead of water and got a rich, cherry brown tone. No orange at all!!
Originally Posted by solange
That's great! I opted for the cassia last weekend. I'll have to remember the red zinger. I was all set to use black tea to get a brown. Thanks!
Riot Crrl We welcome ALL curlies to this thread! Welcome!

Does anybody here use Amla powder? I've used Amla oil but I don't like the smell. I've read that Amla powder is good for your hair. It doesn't change the color, its almost like a deep "conditioner" but in a paste.
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Thanks Maria!

My samples should probably be here in a couple of days. I'll post pics of whatever happens, heh.
Riot Crrl We welcome ALL curlies to this thread! Welcome!

Does anybody here use Amla powder? I've used Amla oil but I don't like the smell. I've read that Amla powder is good for your hair. It doesn't change the color, its almost like a deep "conditioner" but in a paste.
http://www.fromnaturewithlove.com/pr...ct_id=herbamla
Originally Posted by mariag002
Now, I used amla powder (about 2 tablespoons) mixed with a box of henna and it darkened my hair and the amla box says it promotes dark hair and stops pre-mature graying.......it's also great to use as a facial.


4A&B -- Henna and the entire Essential Balms product line; lately Carol's Daughter honey mimosa & black vanilla leave-in. Staple products are SheaMoisture, Aubrey Organics and Trader Joes Norish Spa conditioner, ACV and IC Fantasia Gel. I'm also Mixtress (I love making my own hair concoctions )

Be encouraged -- Cuzz Fuzz is what it Duzz!!

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Are Lush hennas any good?
http://usa.lush.com/cgi-bin/lushdb/c...xpand=Haircare

I still haven't decided to henna or not.

"In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer."

4a, mbl, low porosity, normal thickness, fine hair.
I've never used Lush Henna so I have nothing good or bad to say about the effects on hair. I will say that I use Jamila and it is super finely sifted and I love it. It's so smooth, and rinsing is very easy.
Lush comes in a brick/block/chunk and I can not imagine how it can be sifted as fine as Jamila, therefore I would probably not use it.
4a, Natural since 2002, co wash only,acv, aohsr,aojay,vo5 strawberriesncream,deva b-leave-in,set it free,smoothnshine gel activator (yes small amounts work great), and HENNA!!!!

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I just hennaed for the second time and this time I used a very strong chamomile tea and a splash of lemon juice. I didn't wait for the dye release, I put the mix in hair and took a nap. I left it on for about 5hrs and I had wonderful color and the chamomile tea made my hair and the henna was very easy rinse out. I didn't even smell the henna with the tea in the mix. To me lemon juice makes the color to brassy and acv makes the henna stinks. You can make this mix and leave in overnight. Because you can lose dye once you wait for the dye release and it will release in your after you put it in. It worked very well for me. I also no pooed with Pantene Pro-V Color Revival Conditioner and then did a deep condition with Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose and coconut oil.
1. I used natural instincts a few months back, can i still use henna?

2. What is the difference between henna and cassia? Do they still have the same effect?

3. Is there such thing as a black henna?

4. Does the indigo henna turn out neutral black or blue-black?

5. Is there a red-black henna?

6. what website can i purchase henna and cassia from?

7. What is your hair routine when you henna?

I know its a lot but thanks in advance if you can help me at all.
4a hair. MOD CG routine.

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-Back on the (rajasthani) henna train! My hair is so much better now.
-KBB hair butter mixed with Hairveda Cocasta oil
-Spiral Solutions Deeply Decadent

Last edited by Kynnib; 02-14-2008 at 12:49 AM. Reason: none
1. I used natural instincts a few months back, can i still use henna?

Yes can henna over chemical dyes

2. What is the difference between henna and cassia? Do they still have the same effect?

Henna deposits color and cassia doesn't

3. Is there such thing as a black henna?
NO

4. Does the indigo henna turn out neutral black or blue-black?
Not Sure

5. Is there a red-black henna?

Again not sure

6. what website can i purchase henna and cassia from?
Henna for hair or/www.mehndiskinart.com

7. What is your hair routine when you henna?
First I clarifywith a clarifing shampoo and let dry, then I mix my henna with chamomile tea and a splash of lemon juice then I apply and cover with saran wrap for about 5-6 hrs. Then I rinse and no poo and deep condition. For much more recipes and info go to www.hennaforhair.com and download her book. HTH

I know its a lot but thanks in advance if you can help me at all.
Originally Posted by Kynnib
4. Does the indigo henna turn out neutral black or blue-black?
Indigo is blue. If you do it over henna it turns out black. I don't know, the pictures look pretty straight up black to me, but some of the mixers call it blue-black. http://www.hennaforhair.com/mixes/ Do a strand test and see.

5. Is there a red-black henna?
No. There is henna, which is only red. There is also indigo, which is blue, but used in combination with henna forms black.
Maria,

I always mix alma powder with my henna, and I've used alma powder by itself. I like it, it doesn't cause my hair to turn burgundy, more of a brown-red when using with henna. I typically do a 50/50 mix. Alma has no color affect on my hair when used alone. Also, i find it to be a really good conditioning treatment.

With regards to using indigo,

I've mixed indigo with henna 2x. The result were brown, I wanted to darken my highlights. Just be sure to add the indigo just before you put are ready to apply the henna to your hair. dye release for the henna is extremely important if you desire a brown color.

HTH
I'm going to Mexico until this bills business blows over.

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ok, just did the second henna treatment with the henna i got from catherine. the color is even better this time around--much richer. definately noticed less frizz as well. i have not yet noticed any stretching of the curls. i dont know if it will come with continued use, but im happy its not happening now.

now i just need to figure out how to get it to grow faster...
Frizz Central!
Finally got Catherine's samples today. Cassia, Jamila and Yemen. Testing is in progress. I will have pics (but just of little strands).
Jamila henna from here www.mehndiskinart.com same dye content and summer 07 crop it's cheaper than Catherine's it's like 4.95 per box.
Well my strand test pics are up, if anyone is so inclined.

http://www.hennaforhair.com/forum/in...EMS[]=5905

Imageshack links posted kind of weird, but they still work.

Last edited by Riot Crrl; 02-16-2008 at 12:20 PM. Reason: Fix link
Jamila henna from here www.mehndiskinart.com same dye content and summer 07 crop it's cheaper than Catherine's it's like 4.95 per box.
Originally Posted by Ms Kitty
Yeap, I purchased my last 20 boxes from mehndiskinart.com and it's the same product Catherine refers to as her personal stash only....like you said, it much cheaper.


4A&B -- Henna and the entire Essential Balms product line; lately Carol's Daughter honey mimosa & black vanilla leave-in. Staple products are SheaMoisture, Aubrey Organics and Trader Joes Norish Spa conditioner, ACV and IC Fantasia Gel. I'm also Mixtress (I love making my own hair concoctions )

Be encouraged -- Cuzz Fuzz is what it Duzz!!

http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w184/dsg373839/

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