Experiences with Henna? - Page 88

diamond48 · 09-03-2008, 05:32 PM

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So now I must either rollerset, twist or strawset my hair. No luck with the Twist & Curl that you guys rock so well. I tried it and my hair just looked like an old school roller set. OK so here is a photo of a strawset I did using 50% lottabody and 50% water. I put Wen Fig Oil on my hands while pulling out the straws. Use no snag bobby pins to hold the straws. I'm 60 years old and at the Club Hurricane in Jamaica. This is just before my daughters tricked me into a lap dance to help me celebrate turning 60. Since my husband passed, my 5 kids always make sure my life is fun and lively. They cannot stand to see me sad!

ONE LOVE!

Diamond, your straw set and hair colour look awesome. Gonna take a stab at straw setting very soon. Is your hair colour a result of just henna?

KinkyPJ - Thanks! I use Henna/Indigo 50-50 and 2 tablespoons of Alma. My hair is grey and white. Because of my color being rather light the henna shows vividly. My first Henna treatment was a disaster and turned my hair fire engine red with orange streaks. The Indigo and Alma cool it down more towards Dark Red with Brown lowlights. But from time to time I get really uneven results and must do my my hair over. I haven't tried Indigo alone because I'm scared of Black hair. I love the strawsets and they now take me 1.5 hrs. which isn't all that bad. I do not use end papers or hairspray and still get good results. Hairspray tends to glue my ends together and I do not like the snap crackle and pop when I want to unravel for a big look.
Curl pattern lasts until I wash.

CurlyNikki - Girl I love your hair. Its truly awesome. My strands are a lot thinner and also very frizzy. I went step by step with the twist and curl - remember the rollersets of the 80s???? lol Unbelievable that mine does better just twisted in big twists and not curled at all. 4As run the gamut!

curlynikki · 09-03-2008, 05:39 PM

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So now I must either rollerset, twist or strawset my hair. No luck with the Twist & Curl that you guys rock so well. I tried it and my hair just looked like an old school roller set. OK so here is a photo of a strawset I did using 50% lottabody and 50% water. I put Wen Fig Oil on my hands while pulling out the straws. Use no snag bobby pins to hold the straws. I'm 60 years old and at the Club Hurricane in Jamaica. This is just before my daughters tricked me into a lap dance to help me celebrate turning 60. Since my husband passed, my 5 kids always make sure my life is fun and lively. They cannot stand to see me sad!

ONE LOVE!

Diamond, your straw set and hair colour look awesome. Gonna take a stab at straw setting very soon. Is your hair colour a result of just henna?

KinkyPJ - Thanks! I use Henna/Indigo 50-50 and 2 tablespoons of Alma. My hair is grey and white. Because of my color being rather light the henna shows vividly. My first Henna treatment was a disaster and turned my hair fire engine red with orange streaks. The Indigo and Alma cool it down more towards Dark Red with Brown lowlights. But from time to time I get really uneven results and must do my my hair over. I haven't tried Indigo alone because I'm scared of Black hair. I love the strawsets and they now take me 1.5 hrs. which isn't all that bad. I do not use end papers or hairspray and still get good results. Hairspray tends to glue my ends together and I do not like the snap crackle and pop when I want to unravel for a big look.
Curl pattern lasts until I wash.

CurlyNikki - Girl I love your hair. Its truly awesome. My strands are a lot thinner and also very frizzy. I went step by step with the twist and curl - remember the rollersets of the 80s???? lol Unbelievable that mine does better just twisted in big twists and not curled at all. 4As run the gamut!

Ain't that the truth!!! How long is your hair stretched? Maybe it will yield the results you want after you gain more length? I don't think the twist-n-curl would work for me, if I hadn't started henna'ing a year ago. My hair shrinks and frizzes much less, so the T-N-C hangs really well. Thanks for the compliment, and as always, I loooove your hair

diamond48 · 09-04-2008, 01:40 PM

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Ain't that the truth!!! How long is your hair stretched? Maybe it will yield the results you want after you gain more length? I don't think the twist-n-curl would work for me, if I hadn't started henna'ing a year ago. My hair shrinks and frizzes much less, so the T-N-C hangs really well. Thanks for the compliment, and as always, I loooove your hair

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Hi CurlyNikki: Well its been 9 months of henna. I do my treatments about twice a month but as of last month I started every 3 weeks instead of every 2 weeks. My hair is about 6 inches and layered. I'm hoping my hair may get heavier and thicker with time, but from my experience it seems to me that the Henna is making my curls loose, limp and frizzy. Its OK but I don't dare wear a wash n go and if I do not have time to style it - I put it up in a puff. Also its much easier to flat iron. Basically I can flat iron w/Sedu ceramic and Fantasia serum with good results after letting it air dry in big braids. I could never do this before treating my hair with henna. I like the henna so much better than the permanent color my stylist was using since it really damaged and dried out my hair and right now I'm not ready to wear grey and white hair although I do love it on some of my friends. Nikki you look so cute with the curls - I'll wait a few more months and try your Twist N Curl style again.

sam1082 · 09-05-2008, 06:09 PM

W!O!W! It's true what they say!! Black don't crack! You look absolutely gorgeous for your age! Get it girl

N.D. Aube · 09-06-2008, 09:44 AM

I can't help but to agree. When you said 60, my jaw dropped in shock. YOU DONT LOOK 60 AT ALL. YOU COULD BE IN YOUR FOURTIES

diamond48 · 09-08-2008, 10:44 AM

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W!O!W! It's true what they say!! Black don't crack! You look absolutely gorgeous for your age! Get it girl

Thanks Sam1082 and NB Aube! I appreciate the compliments. I try hard to stay in shape since I'm now a single lady after a lifetime of being married. I go to old school night at the local roller rink once a week and also hit the gym regularly and spend a lot of time with my oldest daughter who is 29 since we are both in the legal field and work Downtown LA. I also have young grandchildren who keep me busy.

Yep some coworkers my age have really dry wrinkley skin - the black skin is a gift when it comes to aging.

curlynikki · 09-10-2008, 03:39 PM

Alas...its Henna Wednesday

I decided this like 3 minutes ago

I'm going to mix up a batch!!!!!

Kynnib · 09-10-2008, 07:48 PM

I was going to look into indigo but i looked at my hair in the mirror and it was jet black. My hair is a really dark brown anyway and i usually put a black rinse in but i havent done one in months. Everything (my roots included) is still jet black. Ive been henna-ing every week for a month now

jeamaria · 09-10-2008, 09:48 PM

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ok... so I rinsed the henna out on the 30th and to my surprise, I didn't have red hair

I was kinda open to the fact that my hair probably would be red since I didn't use any indigo this time. You could probably see a small hint of brown... but not much. It will probably be an accumulative effect with the change of color... I guess we will see. I never really have done much to my hair after hennaing. I took my time to twist it up last night and I will probably wear them for a week or so.

the 1st pic was on Saturday when I washed the henna out...
the 2nd pic was on Friday at work, pre henna...
the 3rd pic was Sunday night post henna...

Offtopic: Really pretty waves in the puff pic! In terms of color, most people find their hair darkens after repeated hennas. Unless you have medium-light hair then you won't see the red unless you're under bright light.

TLMMM · 09-11-2008, 03:48 PM

I will just pray that when I get to be your age Diamond48 (lord willing) I look half as good as you do.

I'm committing to the henna regimen, twice a month for the foreseeable future. I had been dying my hair red for years, and I notice the color my hair turns looks exactly like the Feria shade I used to use, only no chemicals. I did it today and am still sitting with the conditioner in my hair (its dry, I'll rinse it out after I come back from drinking).

so far it looks and feels great, although I did see the same amount of breakage/shedding I've been seeing for the past 8 weeks. when should I look for the breakage/shedding to tail off?

rociobutterfly · 09-11-2008, 05:32 PM

Hi ladies I have a quick question for the henna experts.

I am preparing to do my 5th henna tomorrow. I have been using Jamilla brand henna which i was lucky enough to get from my local Indian store. When I went today they were out of Jamilla and the lady told me to use Mumtaz Al Aroosa brand. She claimed it was from the same company as Jamilla. It was the same price and looked the same, so i got it. I brought it home and mixed it the same way as I usually do the Jamilla henna, but it looks different, smells different, and is lumpy!

My internet search revealed that it IS a different brand than Jamilla.

It is sitting out dye releasing now, so before I apply it, is anyone familiar with this brand? I did a search but could not find anyone talking about it.

TIA!

ETA: I did the henna last night and so far so good. I am DTing now, so I will let you all know what the results are when I'm done, and try to put some pics up

diamond48 · 09-11-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TLMMM

I will just pray that when I get to be your age Diamond48 (lord willing) I look half as good as you do.

I'm committing to the henna regimen, twice a month for the foreseeable future. I had been dying my hair red for years, and I notice the color my hair turns looks exactly like the Feria shade I used to use, only no chemicals. I did it today and am still sitting with the conditioner in my hair (its dry, I'll rinse it out after I come back from drinking).

so far it looks and feels great, although I did see the same amount of breakage/shedding I've been seeing for the past 8 weeks. when should I look for the breakage/shedding to tail off?

Thanks! I looked at your photos. Your twist and curl looks great! Keep it going with the Henna because it is very conditioning. Be sure to deep condition after each treatment. Also put either EVOO or Full Fat Yogurt in your mix. This will cause your treatment to be less drying.

drawmuhfree · 09-12-2008, 12:27 AM

So I think I am going through henna withdrawals!

I have my hair in kinky twists right now and I am trying to keep them in for 2months. I redo the front and any other touchups every week and a half to two weeks and as I was checking my hair condition this last time I was noticing my grey roots! I have almost an inch of grey and 3 weeks to go on my goal.

Yay for growth, but I am ready for my henna!!!!

Peacenik · 09-12-2008, 08:08 AM

I've been lurking for a while and I'm about to jump on the henna bandwagon. Been natural for almost 10 years now, so I'm a little scared.

I just saw my old copy of 'Andre Talks Hair' in my bookshelf.... He doesn't recommend henna. He says that it it gives you a false sense of security; henna- treated hair actually looses elesticity and, when stressed, can snap right off. I can't imagine he was referring to the 'bad' hennas out there.

I don't agree with everything Andre Walker says in his book, but it was good reading back when I first when natural and needed some authority on my new-found texture.

For those of you who have been using henna for a while, do you have trouble with elasticity, breakage?

rociobutterfly · 09-12-2008, 09:34 AM

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For those of you who have been using henna for a while, do you have trouble with elasticity, breakage?

The exact opposite actually. Much more elasticity since i began hennaing back in May. Each strand can stretch more than ever before breaking. Plus I notice much less hair coming out when I de-tangle in the shower, less breakage.

Andre could be referring to the "bad" hennas that people use to dye their hair different colors that contain PPD. As long as you deep condition after and use 100% henna, you should be OK.

tryingtofindaway · 09-12-2008, 03:18 PM

I have done about 4 henna treatments, on my 5th I did a combo 1/2 henna and 1/2 indigo because I wanted my hair color more brown. However I left it in WAY too long, because my hair is now black. Is there any way of lightening the color without using chemical dyes?

jeamaria · 09-12-2008, 03:54 PM

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I have done about 4 henna treatments, on my 5th I did a combo 1/2 henna and 1/2 indigo because I wanted my hair color more brown. However I left it in WAY too long, because my hair is now black. Is there any way of lightening the color without using chemical dyes?

I don't think so. I've heard of people lightening the henna'd hair with peroxide (well not the henna itself but the hair's natural pigments ge lighter so you see the henna more) but since you've used indigo you'd get green hair if you tried that.

I do remember on hennaforhair.com somebody was talking about stripping out the henna partially. I can't remember what they used but it seemed to be pretty damaging. Most people find indigo fades some after a while.

jeamaria · 09-12-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rociobutterfly

Hi ladies I have a quick question for the henna experts.

I am preparing to do my 5th henna tomorrow. I have been using Jamilla brand henna which i was lucky enough to get from my local Indian store. When I went today they were out of Jamilla and the lady told me to use Mumtaz Al Aroosa brand. She claimed it was from the same company as Jamilla. It was the same price and looked the same, so i got it. I brought it home and mixed it the same way as I usually do the Jamilla henna, but it looks different, smells different, and is lumpy!

My internet search revealed that it IS a different brand than Jamilla.

It is sitting out dye releasing now, so before I apply it, is anyone familiar with this brand? I did a search but could not find anyone talking about it.

TIA!

ETA: I did the henna last night and so far so good. I am DTing now, so I will let you all know what the results are when I'm done, and try to put some pics up

I've seen this brand in the store several times. Never used it, but I've read up on it online. It's not from the same company. Either the lady was straight up lying or they have the same US distributor. Anyway, I have good news and bad news. The good: it supposedly gives really good dye release to rival Jamila. The bad: it is the most sand-filled brand and will clog your plumbing like no other! Using it once will probably not mess you up too much, though.

Kynnib · 09-12-2008, 05:04 PM

Is 7 hours without heat long enough to henna?

rociobutterfly · 09-12-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jeamaria

I've seen this brand in the store several times. Never used it, but I've read up on it online. It's not from the same company. Either the lady was straight up lying or they have the same US distributor. Anyway, I have good news and bad news. The good: it supposedly gives really good dye release to rival Jamila. The bad: it is the most sand-filled brand and will clog your plumbing like no other! Using it once will probably not mess you up too much, though.

Thanks Jeamaria that's what I eventually found also while researching.

I used it last night and can honestly say that I found the consistency no different than Jamilla henna. I did not notice sand, but I don't know if you can tell after it is all mixed up. I do live in Florida and usually come home covered in sand anyway so I'm sure my plumbing is used to it!

Anyway I mixed the 100g with 2 cups of herbal tea that i brewed out of horsetail,rosemary, and nettle herbs. I let it sit for about 4 hours on my fridge even though the dye released almost immediately. I read that Indian hennas do that, but it could be that my house is humid. Anyway the henna was much greener than the Jamilla henna which has more of a khaki color. I left it on over night, rinsed it out in the morning with some cheap herbal condish that I got from BigLots. It was soft, and I DTd after with HerbalEssences HH. My hair feels great. I did not have any problems with this brand, but I think I want to continue with the Jamilla since it is suppose to be the one of the better brands. I just need to convince the Indian grocer to start carrying it again, which why they stopped I do not know...

I hope this helps someone. Oh yeah... I did experience the green pee that I have heard others say, and that never happened with the Jamilla!