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Old 06-27-2005, 11:09 AM   #1
 
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Do you consistently achieve clumping without resulting in dry hair? How about curls that hang?

It seems no matter what I put on my hair, the curls define, but it shrinks more and more. More like a curly afro. I am just accepting the fact that my hair doesn't clump much, doesn't hang, but is a very curly afro. How long did it take you to accept what you have and get past your curl envy?

Info: I have been natural for 2 years. I have cut my hair SEVERAL times, but I am now allowing it to grow out. It currently is 5" long.
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Old 06-27-2005, 12:08 PM   #2
 
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I WON'T ACCEPT IT!!!!!

LOL!

OK, honestly, I am just now beginning to accept it. I've been natural for about a year and a half now. I have about 10 inches (stretched) all natural spirals right now but I'm like you. I don't care what I put on it, it looks real good while it's still wet and as soon as the product dries, it's a hot mess. I think mine is more of a frizz issues. So if anyone can recommend anything it would be great. I would LOVE to wear my hair curly, I see the curls, they are there I just know it! LOL! OK, I'm tripping now. But for real, I love the curly look but maybe my hair is too thick for that???? I have very thick 4a with some 3c tendencies when it wants to act right.

I also haven't been able to find anything that I consider my HG. I've tried probably everything recommended on this site with no luck. I think my hair needs a lot of moisture, and since my hair is so thick, it really drinks whatever I put on it. I'm tried Carol's Daughter Healthy Hair butter. That's what I am using currently, I'm not really noticing a different yet but I paid for it so I am going to use the entire jar!

As far as curl definition, I've used Curling Custard, Fantasia IC, Aloe Vera, Curls and Curl keeper. And some others that have just slipped my mind at this very moment. I've used curl activator, and that give me the curl I like but it takes SO long to dry!!!!! But like I said, I am beginning to accept it, which means I haven't yet . So I am still looking but not as hard as I was before. And I'm not spending crazy amounts of money on stuff anymore. If it's cheap and claims to define curls then I yet it. I hear a lot of 4a curlies say that you just have to find what will work for your particular hair and so maybe what works for everyone else doesn't work for me. I'm going to give it a couple more weeks, then I think I'll give it up. For good. I mean it. No really I'm serious! LOL
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The only thing that works for me is to take small sections and apply my product and smooth the hair out. Your curls should clump together that way. Make sure your hair is fully saturated with products something that controls frizz. I use a small tooth comb when I do this and it works just fine for me. This might take some time but it should last a day or two and practice makes perfect.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:20 PM   #4
 
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Sometimes I scrunch products in my hair or I apply product and lightly comb through.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:21 PM   #5
 
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I've tried that (minus the small tooth comb because I keep hearing those are the devil) But I will try it again and add a serious defrizzer. And I keep hearing practice makes perfect but I just don't have that kinda time in my life! LOL! I want someone to tell me a product that will work perfectly and work perfectly every single time I use it! Unreasonable, I know...
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I do not have problems with detangling but then my hair is short 3- 4". I sometimes apply my products to dry hair, that might help, the same way I described earlier. I have a box of products that I have used but did not work for my hair so I understand the frustration. Listen to your hair and that is how I found that some products do not work well for my hair, like stuff with lots of moisture. But the majic curl enhancer for me is the IC Fantasia w/sparkerlites, all the other stuff just makes it better! I do not have much time but the resutls will be well worth it when people are stopping you to find out how you got your hair like that.
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:39 PM   #7
 
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Where can I get IC Fantasia w/sparkerlites?
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frizzybarbie,

You can get it any hair supply shop. I get mine at the corner CVS (it's like a walgreens, rite aide type of thing). So it's one of those gels you can find easily.
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Plopping helps a lot
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I cut my hair off in 1999 and was totally natural. However, I didn't like the frizz mixed in with the coils. I was determined to have perfect, shiny, frizz-free coily-curls. I tried everything; products, products & MORE products, coconut oil, olive oil, trims every 6 weeks to keep the ends frizz free...after 2 years all I had to show for it was still a twa and countless useless products under the sink. What did I do then? Got a texturizer.

It looked great. Not only did I now have 3b-like hair, I had length. I thought I was happy, but I *really* wanted chemical free/ carefree hair. So I transitioned for a year and have never looked back. I found my paradigm had shifted. Frizz no longer bothers me and I am not wearing another shiny helmet of hard as nails, product-drenched hair.
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Old 06-29-2005, 08:36 AM   #11
 
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Thanks An Akasha. Just what I needed to read/hear.
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frizzybarbie,

You can get it any hair supply shop. I get mine at the corner CVS (it's like a walgreens, rite aide type of thing). So it's one of those gels you can find easily.
Thanks! I know where I am headed after class tomorrow
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Old 07-04-2005, 09:54 PM   #13
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I'm new to the forum, but I've been reading this site for months, and I love it!
I think this is probably a common problem for most of us 4a/3c girls. I've found the solution for me is NOT to wet my hair in the shower daily, instead what I do is section my hair nightly in about 10 to 12 sections and spritz with water (see my post 7/4/05) and twist. The next day I undo the twists and loosen the curls with a 20 second blast of warm heat from the blow dryer apply a little curly buttercreme shake and go. I repeat this nightly and what I find is that each day my curls are looser and looser and better clumped, best of all I loose max 5-6 hairs per day! I also have no difficulty with detangling on washday, I just must take my time with my denman d4.
I hope this helps.
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