Jip

I have to say that some of the editing changes are creative (to say the least). The 'creamy crack' makes me laugh. However, I understand how some people (like my mom) will take issue with the term 'nappy'.

Sadly, I can't help but notice you can no longer access ANY part of the board without logging in. I wanted to look up and try some of the homemade recipies.

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LEAVE-IN CONDITIONER – Beautiful Curls Curl Activating Shea Butter Leave-in (Curly to Kinky)
SEALANT– Homemade Natural Butter Mix

AmberWaves

I remember those days when some of the nappturality posters were active here. Frankly, I'm glad Dee created the site so that they could get the heck outa here!! This became a much more peaceful place when they left. Good riddance!!

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empressri

I know certain things were done to keep all of the porn spam off!!! It made me cringe one day, and I was at work!!!

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jeamaria

What were things like before these posters left?

AmberWaves

When I first joined this site (2001) everything was relatively peaceful. I don't remember any heated arguments about other people's hair choices. When someone asked about straightening, texturizing, or definition, other posters would respond with helpful hints, product recs, or what works for them.

Then a small, but vocal group of women started to attack those who wanted curl definition accusing them of wanting "good hair". There seemed to be curly vs. nappy WAR going on. I even remember a white woman being darn near beheaded for asking for help taming her biracial child's hair. It was a mess!!

Then, Dee started nappturality, all those women posted more there and less here. Eventually, the peaceful environment returned!!

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Jip

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empressri

lmao @ jip!!!!

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curlee1

lol

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kei

its kind of unfortunate that that website, (which i have visited, left one post, and saw that they completely censored my comment) has to be so fanatical. don't get me wrong, i'm loving my hair, in its natural state...but its hypocritical to imply that people who use chemicals are bad people....

krazyk

I found that this reminded me much to much of high school and getting the EXTREME critique as to why my hair should be permed (even by hair dressers)-- only of course it was the opposite.

When I got my hair done for the first time by a caucasian woman after she washed my hair she told me:
"I've never done anyone's hair that was so curly like yours."

This woman who probably barely ever sees bi-racial or african american clients, described my hair in a way I NEVER considered it... she used the word curly NOT nappy. And it was not a forced description to possibly avoid offending me

When I found this site I was so happy to see such a wide range of hair types and people in general sharing advice and encouragement. And the other site just made me feel uncomfortable and i automatically didn't feel like i would "fit" in.

meh i guess. Glad I'm here

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Kynnib

Id be scared to post there. My hair looks like this http://img.makeupalley.com/9/7/2/5/1047030.JPG
Its never been an afro. I dont think they would "accept" me

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subbrock

your hair looks exactly like alot of members there. alot of people there dont have afros.

empressri

who and where on it does it say, people who use chemicals are bad people???? please enlighten me. ive been on there for three years and never saw that.

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Kynnib

Exactly. thats why I dont understand why they would look down on that

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- DB deep conditioner, transitioning cream


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subbrock

im not getting what youre saying.

have you been on there and did someone say something bad about your hair?

coincidentally, very recently there was a thread on that site where the OP was basically saying not good things about this site. the majority of the reponses came to the defense of this site and its members. it went on for many pages, almost as long as this thread, if not longer. i found that to be interesting as well as heartwarming.

Kynnib

A relative of mine got flamed a few yrs back for wanting to define her curl pattern

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-Tresseme natural moisture conditioner (CO wash),
-KBB deep conditioner, hair butter
- DB deep conditioner, transitioning cream


http://public.fotki.com/KynniB

subbrock

ahh okay..now i get it!
the reasoning they have over there for being anti defining your curl pattern is that alot of times many of us want to define a curl pattern we simply dont have. so the site creator is against products that want to "turn kinks to curls" because its an insult and its not progressive. whats so wrong with kinks? and why do they need to be curls? there was a post here where someon asked there hairtype, was told it looked to be 4a and then she flat out denied that she was a 4a. once again its the whole good hair/bad hair mentality. so by them being anti curl defining, they feel like theyre doing away with all that.

people who do have curls and want to find product reccomendations are just better off looking for tips here.

empressri

Yep yep Subbrock!!!

I'm glad for those rules. Because, I will be soooo honest with you, Blacks are the hardest race on their own damn head of hair. Some will tell you their hair is curly, when it's not. And they will spend and arm and a leg and both breasts for that miracle curl cream.

And don't tell them you're gonna cut your hair, watch out! Cutting your hair is a Black woman's kryptonite. I told these biddies at work that I was cutting mine and they went ape sh*t. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Clearly the ends were damaged and needed to be gone, but they'd rather see length over health.

This is why I love np and nc.

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Nappy_curly_crown

I'm sorta stayed away from this thread but I'll drop my two cents in anyway.

People give NP.com a bad rap, when they are providing a place that a LOT of us needed at one time or another. I'll be the first to admit it, when I even thought about going natural it was the first place that I turned to. I needed those women. To reaffim that there was nothing that needed "fixing" about my hair, that it wasn't "bad" and that I wasn't commiting dating/social suicide by going natural.

Before I cut my hair, i had no earthly idea what I was working with. I assumed that I would have sterotypical 4b hair. That's what I expected because that's what I assumed that all black people had unlessed they were "mixed". Even as my hair grew longer and evidence of curls started to emerge, I never felt out of place there. Even when after about 1 1/2 years natural and my afro had flopped over a bit, I still felt at home there and I still do.

The only topic that was tabo there (and isn't so much any more) is curl definition and I understand WHY that is. Even as more and more women embrace thier natural hair, they STILL have left overs of that "good hair" "bad hair" mentaility. So many women will only go natural or only wear thier hair out if it appears to be curly. You have chicks that will dayum near sell you thier first born child to get pretty curly hair, slathering dayum near a jar of curl creme on thier hair to "elongate and define thier curls". Miss Jessies and other companies have payed on the insecurities of this group of people for years promising to turn "kinks to curls".

Even on this very site, there are lots of women that are so frustrated with thier hair because it won't curl, clump, be frizz free, and it pains me to read it a lot of times. I see them spending a small fortune on products trying to get a look that in all honesty they will NEVER get because its just not in the nature of thier hair. I've had debates with people about if we are doing these ladies a diservice by not really being "real" with them. That is why I apprecate NP...cause they don't sugar coat that topic.

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akilamonique

I have stopped going to the nameless site for that very reason. I think the owner of the site(as well as some of the members) spend way too much time policing the posts. If you are going to discuss hair you should be able to discuss all aspects of it freely!

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