Protein Sensitive-What does that mean??

Recently I have found that I can't use the same products that used to work for me. Do you think I may fall in the protein sensitive category. How do I know?
protein sensitivity is basically when someone's hair gets too dry and too brittle from using products with protein. granted, when protein is used too much or the hair is not properly moisturized/conditoined after doing a proetin treatment, its possible to have these same issues without being protein sensitive.
ultimately, you may or may not be protein sensitive.
what products are you currently using? i know ive had products "stop working" for me before and it was due to the ingredients (basically a non CG routine worked great at first, but after a while my hair just went crazy. so i switched to a CG routine), because my hair grew longer, or the way i applied them needed to be tweaked a bit.
I was using Pantene/ Paul Mitchell the conditioner as leav in/ then Miss Jessies products with Fantasia the clear gel over it all . I have recently switched to using Suave as co wash/ Paul Mitchell as leave in/ Curls whipped cream. I am cool until the Fantasia. It dries my hair crazy but I love the definition it gives me.

How do I know what proteins are bad for my hair?
i just typed out a long response and accidentally deleted it, so here is the short version:
-it could be that youre simply not getting enough moisture. period. pantene can dry your hair out. for some, using too much fantasia (even if youre not proteien sensitive) will dry your hair out. using less, a lighter gel or using an actual aloe vera gel (the kind thats used to treat burns) might help with the dryness. also deep treatments would help bring some moisture into your hair.
-you could be protein sensitive. in the event that you want to eliminate proteins, here are some of the other names that protein is called in hair products : question about protein
My hair started to feel dry and crispy, and parts that were fine before became grizzled. I previously had had no protein sensitivity.
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hi sb - did your protein sensitivity develop overtime, or did it just happen one day. my hair has suffered some damage from trying to go blonde (go figure) so i've been applying protein treatments (apoghee) once a week. i plan on doing four straight and then stop. but i have to tell you, i'm so paranoid.
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hi sb - did your protein sensitivity develop overtime, or did it just happen one day. my hair has suffered some damage from trying to go blonde (go figure) so i've been applying protein treatments (apoghee) once a week. i plan on doing four straight and then stop. but i have to tell you, i'm so paranoid.
Originally Posted by jamaica81
even if you arent protein sensitive, it might work best to space your protein treatments out to every other week and make sure you deep condition after each one. then after your 4 you can go to once a month.

Last edited by subbrock; 07-21-2008 at 04:17 PM.
hi sb - did your protein sensitivity develop overtime, or did it just happen one day. my hair has suffered some damage from trying to go blonde (go figure) so i've been applying protein treatments (apoghee) once a week. i plan on doing four straight and then stop. but i have to tell you, i'm so paranoid.
Originally Posted by jamaica81
it seemed to develop pretty quickly, but I had done 2-3 monthly protein treatments with a new product, Sebastian Penetraitt, then co-washed with a new conditioner that contained Keratin. I stopped using the Penetraitt, dropped that conditioner, and things seem okay. But I can no longer use some other prodcts like TJ Nourish, while other of my conditioners with proteins are okay. It's really hit or miss. I didn't have this problem when I was doing monthly Nexxus Emergencee treatments.
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Hear that crash? It's me falling off the CG wagon.
Here's what to look for:

anything that says hydrolyzed(soy, wheat, silk),

the obvious proteins like oat, wheat, soy, and keratin,

extracts that are extracted from that of a protein

including yeast.

If your products contain any of these ingredients and you're experiencing dry, frizzy, brillo pad like hair then you might be sensitive to proteins. HTH!
3c-4a; Protein Sensitive(forms of wheat, keratin, soy and anything "hydrolyzed"). My hair hates coconut oil and jojoba oil(sometimes).
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Here's what to look for:

anything that says hydrolyzed(soy, wheat, silk),

the obvious proteins like oat, wheat, soy, and keratin,

extracts that are extracted from that of a protein

including yeast.

If your products contain any of these ingredients and you're experiencing dry, frizzy, brillo pad like hair then you might be sensitive to proteins. HTH!
Originally Posted by teshon
If I am understanding this correctly, your hair will feel clean, but remain limp and/or dry/frizzy after conditioning if you are perhaps sensitive?

I've gotten one/two better than expected CG day since starting. I believe I used Aussie Moisture one day (Nioxin poo'd/DT before switching due to the 'cones) and have been failing since first use of Nature's Gate Hemp Conditioner.

The Nature's Gate conditioner now leaves my hair less vibrant, drier (at ends especially), some of my curls lack spring (even though some are verrah happy sproingy), and the top flatter even though my scalp/roots are clean. It's like "almost there hair." (I have not shampooed for a week)

Both of these brands have Jojoba oil in them and regretfully parabens, but I haven't noticed any proteins in either. I mentioned this in another thread w/o response, so i've been wondering if my problem may be my last haircut (4 mo. old razor butcher), protein sensitivity, or if somehow i've not fully cleared my hair/scalp of the no-no's.

If anyone can help me out, i'd really appreciate it.

Thanks!
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(sorry for the mini-epic)
If I am understanding this correctly, your hair will feel clean, but remain limp and/or dry/frizzy after conditioning if you are perhaps sensitive?
Limp? No, not usually at least not for me. Dry, frizzy, grizzled, straw-like, crisp -- are all symptons of protein overload on my hair. Another thing I'm noticing is a grainy feeling on my hair when I apply certain conditioners. TJ Nourish is a case in point. My personal theory (unbacked by any fact whatsoever) is that hydrolized proteins can come in different sizes. Almost all my rinseout conditioners have some sort of hydrolized protein in them, yet I'm only sensitive to some and not others. So in some, a smaller protein particle may be absorbing into my hair better than in another, like TJ Nourish.

Also, for me it's a continuum. TJ Nourish used to be fine for my hair, but now it's not. So I gotta back-off the proteins for awhile, and maybe later move forward again. I haven't done a Nexus Emergencee or any protein treatment in 3 months and I can feel the need for one. It is truly trial and error, and very personalized.
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Wow! I was just going to post asking about growing out a razor cut because I'm having a lot of the same problems. So, maybe it is the razor cut. It leaves the ends very prone to splitting and damage. They are okay if you are getting your hair cut every 6 weeks, but not so great for growing out.

Guess I'll be going in for a trim.
Wow! I was just going to post asking about growing out a razor cut because I'm having a lot of the same problems. So, maybe it is the razor cut. It leaves the ends very prone to splitting and damage. They are okay if you are getting your hair cut every 6 weeks, but not so great for growing out.

Guess I'll be going in for a trim.
Originally Posted by vwlizard
That's what I am in the process of trying to square away, finding a salon/cut.

My hair has since grown out (curly) to just above shoulder length. This past year is the 1st time i've had short hair in a really long time.

Good luck!

Last edited by violet_gypsy; 02-27-2009 at 09:11 PM.
It is truly trial and error, and very personalized.
True indeed, but all of the above stand out like a sore thumb in hair products for me. The end result is very consistent in extremely dry hair at any given amount with the exception of silk amino acids. Also my hair will tolerate light proteins(extracts) in the right formulations. It really does depend on YOUR level of sensitivity.
3c-4a; Protein Sensitive(forms of wheat, keratin, soy and anything "hydrolyzed"). My hair hates coconut oil and jojoba oil(sometimes).
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I did a protein treatment tonight and my hair now has some life to it...that has lasted for at least 6+ hours. (even after forgetting to CO-wash after the treatment...I sprayed a distilled water/ conditioner mix in)

Afterwards I sprayed in a conditioner/distilled water mix which helped a little.

I'm still thinking the razor butcher is messing with the texture, though. My haircut from the back looks uneven to me.

Hope you've found a solution for the moment.

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